Kimber ReAssembly ? - Page 2 - The Firearms Forum

Double D · 12-12-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by navis128

DD - No I haven't taken the tool out - I'm uncomfortable with the possibility of an unguided missle going across the living room. But also, without the slide locked back, it appears that it is not completely clear and it has resistance. It's not just falling out like described.

Well, my springfield has a block to lock the spring back and not a pin. I knocked the block out and there was some tension on it but it didnt fly out. I dont think it will fly out since it cant go thru the front of the slide. I am thinking that the spring lock pin may be stopping the slide from going all the way back, but I cant guarantee it. I gotta run somewhere but will be back shortly.

navis128 · 12-12-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Well, my springfield has a block to lock the spring back and not a pin. I knocked the block out and there was some tension on it but it didnt fly out. I dont think it will fly out since it cant go thru the front of the slide. I am thinking that the spring lock pin may be stopping the slide from going all the way back, but I cant guarantee it. I gotta run somewhere but will be back shortly.

There is that possibility.

navis128 · 12-12-2009, 10:14 AM

dunt dunna la, na na.

Ta da

navis128 · 12-12-2009, 10:20 AM

Thanks for the motivation Kimber, but poor guy...you've made yourself a "source" now.

Kimber · 12-12-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by navis128

Thanks for the motivation Kimber, but poor guy...you've made yourself a "source" now.

dunt dunna la, na na.
I take it that means you got it?

Kimber · 12-12-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by navis128

Let me ask you...can you lock the slide back even with the safety depresssed? If not, then I have to remember how I was practicing.

Once you’ve gotten past the safety pin shown here, yes, but not recommended. Compressing the grip safety wile sliding the slide on in reassembly will keep this small pin up and possibly shear it off (not good).

pinecone70 · 12-12-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by navis128

dunt dunna la, na na.

Ta da

Yay!

Kimber · 12-12-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by navis128

Is this going to get easier? I've shot only 250 rounds so will it take a "break in" period? Also, I read in the manual that the spring has to be replaced at 800 rounds. That doesn't seem like a lot, but I'm new, so maybe it is, but can you tell (feel it) when it needs replaced or do you have to keep track of the rounds?

It will,you won’t feel it until you replace the spring and remember how a new spring feels, keep a count on your rounds. 900 or 1000 isn’t a problem as long as the pistol is reliable.

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Originally Posted by navis128

What happens if I loose the "take down tool", SOL?

Thanks all!

Do an eBay search, enter “1911 Tools” there are some handy tools being listed for the Carry Kimber.
I’d post a link but I’m not sure of forum policy.

navis128 · 12-12-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimber

dunt dunna la, na na.
I take it that means you got it?

Yes, Yes it does. I just bowed up and pushed. I was apprehensive 'cause it's kind of expensive, but I figured if I broke it surely Kimber would replace it.

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Originally Posted by Kimber

Once you’ve gotten past the safety pin shown here, yes, but not recommended. Compressing the grip safety wile sliding the slide on in reassembly will keep this small pin up and possibly shear it off (not good).

Do you have the slide lock out and the slide forward?

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Originally Posted by pinecone70

Yay!

Thanks Pinecone, You're a peach (besides snow what is MN known for?)

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Originally Posted by Kimber

Do an eBay search, enter “1911 Tools” there are some handy tools being listed for the Carry Kimber.
I’d post a link but I’m not sure of forum policy.

So, hypathetically of course, let's say you were in that SOL position, have you used anything besides the designated tool?

PS - I haven't been here long, but I have found the policy to boil down to "don't be nasty to your neighbor". A little banter and ribbin' are ok, but nastiness is not allowed.

rocklinskier · 12-12-2009, 12:37 PM

Navis,

Glad you got it. Now, maybe do it a couple of times right away so as to get the process down pat, and next time, it won't take you long at all.

Sorry about the PM, I just got the message and didn't get a chance to reply, but thanks to the helpful folks here, you obviously got the help you needed.

If I may, about the recoil spring replacement. There was a long and descriptive thread not long ago on that subject, but here is the jest of it:

As the spring gets weakened (used) it will allow the slide to slam harder into the frame with each shot. This will eventually cause wear and even possibly damage to the gun. It's a preventative maint. thing. Springs are not expensive, and easy to replace. You likely won't be able to "feel it". The 800 rounds is recommended, but don't panic if you go over a bit. Some have fired literally thousands of rounds thru their 1911's without replacement, but it's not typically considered wise to do so.

You can either literally track or log the # of rounds you've shot, or just a general guideline. For example, if you go to the range once a week and shoot 100 rounds each time, you know you need to change that spring approx. every 2 months or so. shoot 50 rounds every other week, then change it at 6 months, etc. etc.

navis128 · 12-12-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rocklinskier

Navis,

Glad you got it. Now, maybe do it a couple of times right away so as to get the process down pat, and next time, it won't take you long at all.

Sorry about the PM, I just got the message and didn't get a chance to reply, but thanks to the helpful folks here, you obviously got the help you needed.

No problem, I get obsessive and impatient. I'm working on it though.

If I may, about the recoil spring replacement. There was a long and descriptive thread not long ago on that subject, but here is the jest of it:

As the spring gets weakened (used) it will allow the slide to slam harder into the frame with each shot. This will eventually cause wear and even possibly damage to the gun. It's a preventative maint. thing. Springs are not expensive, and easy to replace. You likely won't be able to "feel it". The 800 rounds is recommended, but don't panic if you go over a bit. Some have fired literally thousands of rounds thru their 1911's without replacement, but it's not typically considered wise to do so.

You can either literally track or log the # of rounds you've shot, or just a general guideline. For example, if you go to the range once a week and shoot 100 rounds each time, you know you need to change that spring approx. every 2 months or so. shoot 50 rounds every other week, then change it at 6 months, etc. etc.

I can just rip off the box top...until I learn how to re-load that is.

navis128 · 12-12-2009, 12:47 PM

This spring assembly...is it "assembled" like that because it's a 4" barrel?

Shooter45 · 12-12-2009, 01:50 PM

No, it's because it's a 4" bull barrel.

So, no room for a recoil spring plug.

You will know when to change the recoil spring when the relaibility goes away. It's good to change the recoil spring at least every 1000 rounds due to the shorter barrel.

keokeboy · 12-12-2009, 02:07 PM

when the kimber engineers decided to put a bull barrel into my compact carry 2, I been thinking really hard if there is a better way to take down this beautiful piece of art without using any tools. wonder what sam would come up with?

Shooter45 · 12-12-2009, 02:10 PM

If you loose the takedown tool, a paper clip makes a good substitute. ( don't even ask me how I know)

Kimber · 12-12-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by navis128

Let me ask you...can you lock the slide back even with the safety depresssed? If not, then I have to remember how I was practicing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimber

Once you’ve gotten past the safety pin shown here, yes, but not recommended. Compressing the grip safety wile sliding the slide on in reassembly will keep this small pin up and possibly shear it off (not good).

I take back that “not recommended part“, once you have the slide back over the safety pin shown (like you have it in post 12 I believe it was) feel free to grip the grip safety when locking back the slide or chambering a round.
It should be natural not to compress the grip safety when chambering a round as your hand pushes up on the hammer guard part of the grip safety.
With out a magazine in the pistol the slide won't lock back without pushing up on the slide lock.

rancherodad · 01-05-2010, 09:21 PM

Navis128 hope you got this fixed I have several 1911 and just pick up my first kimber have not taken it down yet so I'll post up what I find when I do

12-12-2009, 10:14 AM	#28
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: Kimber ReAssembly ? dunt dunna la, na na. Ta da __________________ A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence

12-12-2009, 10:20 AM	#29
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: Kimber ReAssembly ? Thanks for the motivation Kimber, but poor guy...you've made yourself a "source" now. __________________ A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence

12-12-2009, 12:37 PM	#35
rocklinskier V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 295	Re: Kimber ReAssembly ? Navis, Glad you got it. Now, maybe do it a couple of times right away so as to get the process down pat, and next time, it won't take you long at all. Sorry about the PM, I just got the message and didn't get a chance to reply, but thanks to the helpful folks here, you obviously got the help you needed. If I may, about the recoil spring replacement. There was a long and descriptive thread not long ago on that subject, but here is the jest of it: As the spring gets weakened (used) it will allow the slide to slam harder into the frame with each shot. This will eventually cause wear and even possibly damage to the gun. It's a preventative maint. thing. Springs are not expensive, and easy to replace. You likely won't be able to "feel it". The 800 rounds is recommended, but don't panic if you go over a bit. Some have fired literally thousands of rounds thru their 1911's without replacement, but it's not typically considered wise to do so. You can either literally track or log the # of rounds you've shot, or just a general guideline. For example, if you go to the range once a week and shoot 100 rounds each time, you know you need to change that spring approx. every 2 months or so. shoot 50 rounds every other week, then change it at 6 months, etc. etc. __________________ Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free ~Ronald Reagan.

12-12-2009, 12:47 PM	#37
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: Kimber ReAssembly ? This spring assembly...is it "assembled" like that because it's a 4" barrel? __________________ A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence

12-12-2009, 01:50 PM	#38
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,753	Re: Kimber ReAssembly ? No, it's because it's a 4" bull barrel. So, no room for a recoil spring plug. You will know when to change the recoil spring when the relaibility goes away. It's good to change the recoil spring at least every 1000 rounds due to the shorter barrel.

12-12-2009, 02:07 PM	#39
keokeboy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: conway ar Posts: 139	Re: Kimber ReAssembly ? when the kimber engineers decided to put a bull barrel into my compact carry 2, I been thinking really hard if there is a better way to take down this beautiful piece of art without using any tools. wonder what sam would come up with?

12-12-2009, 02:10 PM	#40
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,753	Re: Kimber ReAssembly ? If you loose the takedown tool, a paper clip makes a good substitute. ( don't even ask me how I know)

01-05-2010, 09:21 PM	#42
rancherodad Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 24	Re: Kimber ReAssembly ? Navis128 hope you got this fixed I have several 1911 and just pick up my first kimber have not taken it down yet so I'll post up what I find when I do