I.D Required

Kestral · 02-09-2010, 09:41 AM

Can anyone I.D this item cal.9m mag capacity 9 rds s/n 88338

Nitro · 02-09-2010, 10:51 AM

You sure it's a 9mm? Sort of has that Japanese war time flavor

navis128 · 02-09-2010, 11:20 AM

I don't know what it is, but I have to ask. Are those "quills" etched into it?

petesusn · 02-09-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitro

You sure it's a 9mm? Sort of has that Japanese war time flavor

I agree. It does look very WW2 Japanese. Looks kinda like a Nambu.

Edit: Naw, It's not Japanese.

Edit again: I've looked all over and can't find anything as your pictures. I'm at a loss.
Thought it could also have been Hungarian but now I don't know.

Jim K · 02-09-2010, 04:03 PM

It resembles both a Type 14 Japanese pistol and a Luger. I suspect it is a product of the famous Khyber pass makers or possibly of a Chinese workshop. That suspicion is based in part on the "serial number" (there certainly were not 88,888 of them) but both places tend to stamp on random numbers in imitation of Western guns.

I don't think it is a home-made "zip gun" for criminal use, it is too well made for that; nor does it seem to be a dummy of some kind as too much trouble was expended when a wooden or plastic gun would do as well.

Is it a locked breech? If 9mm Parabellum, it could hardly be blowback, but then it could be something never made to fire. If it is a locked breech, it seems to be an interesting design as the barrel does not look like it can move. Does it actually accept 9mm Parabellum? If not, can you determine what cartridge it does accept, if any?

Jim

RJay · 02-09-2010, 05:00 PM

You know, the lines also follow those of the Glisenti.

Jim K · 02-09-2010, 08:12 PM

I don't think the serial is 88338; it looks like 88888. Probably the maker had only one number stamp, an 8, so that is the only number on the gun.

Do you have the gun?

Jim

islenos · 02-10-2010, 10:53 AM

Looks to be a homemade knockoff of a Japanese Nambu.

Afghan and Pakistan artisans have hand built rifles and pistols for a hundreds of years. I've seen a hand built replica of a SMLE and German P38.

wpage · 02-16-2010, 06:43 PM

Looks like a early Chinese knockoff off a luger.

jondar · 02-16-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RJay

You know, the lines also follow those of the Glisenti.

Glisenti was my first guess but I think all of them had the makers mark on them.

02-09-2010, 09:41 AM	#1
Kestral V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Guernsey Channel Islands Posts: 355	I.D Required Can anyone I.D this item cal.9m mag capacity 9 rds s/n 88338 Attached Images -->

02-09-2010, 10:51 AM	#2
Nitro Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 9	Re: I.D Required You sure it's a 9mm? Sort of has that Japanese war time flavor

02-09-2010, 11:20 AM	#3
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02-09-2010, 04:03 PM	#5
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: I.D Required It resembles both a Type 14 Japanese pistol and a Luger. I suspect it is a product of the famous Khyber pass makers or possibly of a Chinese workshop. That suspicion is based in part on the "serial number" (there certainly were not 88,888 of them) but both places tend to stamp on random numbers in imitation of Western guns. I don't think it is a home-made "zip gun" for criminal use, it is too well made for that; nor does it seem to be a dummy of some kind as too much trouble was expended when a wooden or plastic gun would do as well. Is it a locked breech? If 9mm Parabellum, it could hardly be blowback, but then it could be something never made to fire. If it is a locked breech, it seems to be an interesting design as the barrel does not look like it can move. Does it actually accept 9mm Parabellum? If not, can you determine what cartridge it does accept, if any? Jim

02-09-2010, 05:00 PM	#6
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,484	Re: I.D Required You know, the lines also follow those of the Glisenti. __________________ RonJames

02-09-2010, 08:12 PM	#7
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: I.D Required I don't think the serial is 88338; it looks like 88888. Probably the maker had only one number stamp, an 8, so that is the only number on the gun. Do you have the gun? Jim

02-10-2010, 10:53 AM	#8
islenos Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,244	Re: I.D Required Looks to be a homemade knockoff of a Japanese Nambu. Afghan and Pakistan artisans have hand built rifles and pistols for a hundreds of years. I've seen a hand built replica of a SMLE and German P38. __________________

02-16-2010, 06:43 PM	#9
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: I.D Required Looks like a early Chinese knockoff off a luger. __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W