BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN - The Firearms Forum

BETH · 07-23-2009, 06:46 PM

I have noticed that some guns are called target guns, now are these the only guns you can use in Bullseye? Do you have to have a certain barrel length or something? Because they are taget guns are they more accurate?

300 H&H · 07-23-2009, 09:45 PM

BETH,

Beware of the use of the word "target"....Bullseye is truely a "target grade" sport, by that I mean the pistols used tend to be more expensive, as they are more precise, and deliver accuracy on par with price. Barrel length may vary however, but usually nothing less than 4-5", and perhaps as much as 10". For me to say a handgun is a target gun, it must have adjustable sights, a good trigger pull, a some what heavy barrel for the muzzle heavy feel I like, and some other shooters who are shooting them in competition and doing well with one. It is much easier if you are shooting a know gun that others have had good experiance with. And of course it must fit your budget. Don't rule out a good used pistol either, as they are less expensive and may let you buy a better gun. I am sure others will give you more good ideas. Good luck, Kirk

BETH · 07-23-2009, 10:20 PM

Thanks for the info Kirk i am a new shooter was thinking of later going into Bullseye. I fell in love with the Walther p22 and i think i was using the shorter barrel, now if i got that same gun with a 5" barrel the accuracy would be better right. Maybe i should practice shooting for a while. I also liked the citation and a Browning lr but never shot one. I guess my question is -Is it stupid for me to buy one gun to practice with and later buy a target gun or should i start off with a target gun?

Tom Militano · 07-24-2009, 03:10 PM

Several things to bear in mind Beth. The longer sight radius is a advantage over a short one. Why buy two guns? Buy the one you plan to shoot in competition. When I was competing I was shooting a S&W model 41 short heavy barrel with an extended rib for a longer sight radius. I don't know about now, but when I was competing about 85%of the shooters were shooting model 41's. Most of the rest were shooting High Standards.

sweetokole · 01-28-2010, 01:20 AM

When I shot, there were 3 disciplines... 22 rim, center fire, which was usually shot with a 1911 in 38 and 45... your could shoot the 45 in the center fire match... which meant you were pretty beat up at the end of the day... I forgot... there was also a "Ball" match at the end... talk about beat up... and try building a "ball" gun that would shoot 1-3/8" at 50.

deadin · 03-17-2010, 08:56 AM

Most Bullseye shooters now use dot scopes so the barrel length doesn't gain you much. (The main advantage for a long barrel is sight radius. With a 'scope this isn't a factor.)
As for what is being used in matches these days, I'm afraid that the sun is beginning to set on the M41. I'm not saying it's not an excellent pistol, but I'm seeing more and more "Euroguns" in competition. Our little group the shoots on Monday afternoons consists of 2 Benelli MP95, 2 Pardinis, a Walther GSP and a Sig Trailside. The Trailside is nowhere near as pricey as the others, but the guy shooting it is right up there in the standings.
Sometimes I shoot in with the Monday evening group and there are maybe 4 or 5 M41's out of the 14 or 15 shooters. There are a good number of Rugers of various Marks (Most of them have had work to make them more usable) and a few Buckmarks, S&W M22A's and various other makes including a few more Euroguns.
It boils down to more the shooter than the gun, but when your skills reach a certain level, the gun can start holding you back.

The_Rifleman · 03-18-2010, 03:17 AM

My dad has a Ruger Mark II, My brother has a Ruger Mark II Target. This was a year ago when I tried this... The target one shot about a 6 inch 9 shot group at 100 yards. The regular one shot a 12 inch 9 shot group at 100 yards.

That was with iron sights so it isn't a very scientific test but I believe the longer bull barrel made a big difference.

wpage · 04-01-2010, 07:10 PM

Good question... Shooting the bull is the ideal. The bullseye the dream. Unless you are like Annie Oakley the dream shot of all time.
Its all in what you are after at the range and the quality of you gun your ammo your optics and your skill...
Enjoy the challenge!

07-23-2009, 06:46 PM	#1
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,676	BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN I have noticed that some guns are called target guns, now are these the only guns you can use in Bullseye? Do you have to have a certain barrel length or something? Because they are taget guns are they more accurate? -->

07-23-2009, 09:45 PM	#2
300 H&H Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,796	Re: BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN BETH, Beware of the use of the word "target"....Bullseye is truely a "target grade" sport, by that I mean the pistols used tend to be more expensive, as they are more precise, and deliver accuracy on par with price. Barrel length may vary however, but usually nothing less than 4-5", and perhaps as much as 10". For me to say a handgun is a target gun, it must have adjustable sights, a good trigger pull, a some what heavy barrel for the muzzle heavy feel I like, and some other shooters who are shooting them in competition and doing well with one. It is much easier if you are shooting a know gun that others have had good experiance with. And of course it must fit your budget. Don't rule out a good used pistol either, as they are less expensive and may let you buy a better gun. I am sure others will give you more good ideas. Good luck, Kirk Last edited by 300 H&H; 07-23-2009 at 09:47 PM..

07-23-2009, 10:20 PM	#3
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,676	Re: BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN Thanks for the info Kirk i am a new shooter was thinking of later going into Bullseye. I fell in love with the Walther p22 and i think i was using the shorter barrel, now if i got that same gun with a 5" barrel the accuracy would be better right. Maybe i should practice shooting for a while. I also liked the citation and a Browning lr but never shot one. I guess my question is -Is it stupid for me to buy one gun to practice with and later buy a target gun or should i start off with a target gun?

07-24-2009, 03:10 PM	#4
Tom Militano Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 1,255	Re: BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN Several things to bear in mind Beth. The longer sight radius is a advantage over a short one. Why buy two guns? Buy the one you plan to shoot in competition. When I was competing I was shooting a S&W model 41 short heavy barrel with an extended rib for a longer sight radius. I don't know about now, but when I was competing about 85%of the shooters were shooting model 41's. Most of the rest were shooting High Standards.

01-28-2010, 01:20 AM	#5
sweetokole V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 52	Re: BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN When I shot, there were 3 disciplines... 22 rim, center fire, which was usually shot with a 1911 in 38 and 45... your could shoot the 45 in the center fire match... which meant you were pretty beat up at the end of the day... I forgot... there was also a "Ball" match at the end... talk about beat up... and try building a "ball" gun that would shoot 1-3/8" at 50.

03-17-2010, 08:56 AM	#6
deadin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 858	Re: BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN Most Bullseye shooters now use dot scopes so the barrel length doesn't gain you much. (The main advantage for a long barrel is sight radius. With a 'scope this isn't a factor.) As for what is being used in matches these days, I'm afraid that the sun is beginning to set on the M41. I'm not saying it's not an excellent pistol, but I'm seeing more and more "Euroguns" in competition. Our little group the shoots on Monday afternoons consists of 2 Benelli MP95, 2 Pardinis, a Walther GSP and a Sig Trailside. The Trailside is nowhere near as pricey as the others, but the guy shooting it is right up there in the standings. Sometimes I shoot in with the Monday evening group and there are maybe 4 or 5 M41's out of the 14 or 15 shooters. There are a good number of Rugers of various Marks (Most of them have had work to make them more usable) and a few Buckmarks, S&W M22A's and various other makes including a few more Euroguns. It boils down to more the shooter than the gun, but when your skills reach a certain level, the gun can start holding you back.

03-18-2010, 03:17 AM	#7
The_Rifleman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 872	Re: BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN My dad has a Ruger Mark II, My brother has a Ruger Mark II Target. This was a year ago when I tried this... The target one shot about a 6 inch 9 shot group at 100 yards. The regular one shot a 12 inch 9 shot group at 100 yards. That was with iron sights so it isn't a very scientific test but I believe the longer bull barrel made a big difference. __________________ Debate isn't "uncivil" behavior. Pointing out illogical reasoning is a legitimate counter argument. That is the problem with internet forum mods, they rarely understand what constitutes legitimate, honest and civil debate. They reward the trolls and annoy the people genuinely trying communicate. I don't really like this place anyway, have fun with your power trip. ...nuff said.

04-01-2010, 07:10 PM	#8
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: BULLSEYE SHOOTING-GUN Good question... Shooting the bull is the ideal. The bullseye the dream. Unless you are like Annie Oakley the dream shot of all time. Its all in what you are after at the range and the quality of you gun your ammo your optics and your skill... Enjoy the challenge! __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W