vz-24 bayonet

H&Rfanatic · 02-28-2010, 07:21 PM

VZ-24 knife and matching sheathe.

E-23 with serial number of C-5896

Z with circle

Lions crest with circle..

Blade is upward on rifle..

wood and blade are excellent

what year and a guesstimate of what it is worth???

stede · 03-01-2010, 08:21 PM

How long is the blade? 450mm is standard for the Pattern 98/22 (also called VZ23), but the same model with a shorter blade is the VZ24... yours looks nice and nicely marked, is the bayonet marked CSZ like the scabbard? Are there unit marks stamped on the back of the pommel?
And yes, 23 (1923) is the year of manufacture.
I ask these questions because- and I'm sure you know- the Czechs produced one hell of a lot of these bayonets. Most went with export orders for all the countries to whom they supplied VZ-24 rifles. Small details mean the difference in the value of your bayonet...

H&Rfanatic · 03-01-2010, 08:54 PM

The knife is 15" long and the blade is 10" long.

There is a CSZ on both articles

The only unit number is the C 5896

Was this the first year they put the blade up???

Was this the first year they manufactured these knifes..

thank you for the info..

,

stede · 03-01-2010, 09:35 PM

The number C5896 is in fact matched to the serial number of the rifle it was issued with; these are some of the few bayonets of any country to have been matched with the rifle. You probably know that Czechoslovakia was formed as a country out of the debris of WW1; one of the privileges granted it was manufacture of the Mauser rifle. The first rifles made were identical to the standard M98 issued to German troops in the war, and the long M98/22 was the bayonet designed for them but the Czechs quickly modified the design of the Mauser rifle into the VZ-24 carbine, which was more in keeping with the 'modern' ideas of the time- ie a shorter and handier firearm.
Yours is a transition piece- made in '23 but with the shorter blade that became standard with the Bodak (bayonet) 24. It is a nice example, but so very many were made that they don't fetch a lot, really- $40-$60 would be the range, in my opinion. Still, a very nice example of the pattern... best, Steve

H&Rfanatic · 03-01-2010, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stede

The number C5896 is in fact matched to the serial number of the rifle it was issued with; these are some of the few bayonets of any country to have been matched with the rifle. You probably know that Czechoslovakia was formed as a country out of the debris of WW1; one of the privileges granted it was manufacture of the Mauser rifle. The first rifles made were identical to the standard M98 issued to German troops in the war, and the long M98/22 was the bayonet designed for them but the Czechs quickly modified the design of the Mauser rifle into the VZ-24 carbine, which was more in keeping with the 'modern' ideas of the time- ie a shorter and handier firearm.
Yours is a transition piece- made in '23 but with the shorter blade that became standard with the Bodak (bayonet) 24. It is a nice example, but so very many were made that they don't fetch a lot, really- $40-$60 would be the range, in my opinion. Still, a very nice example of the pattern... best, Steve

thanks. I have a 1936 vz24 that has not been blued by the Germans (white rhino) that the bayonet fits on. was offered a good amount but said no.
Thanks again Steve

wpage · 04-27-2010, 07:02 PM

Could be worth alot more to the right collector...

stede · 04-28-2010, 09:15 PM

Could be worth alot more to the right collector... True dat! A collector needing this (very nice) example to fill a hole would certainly pay more than the average price...

gdmoody · 05-05-2010, 11:56 AM

When I bought my VZ-24, it also came with a bayonet which looks exactly like this one. After looking a this thread, I dug the bayonet out and looked at it. There are no markings on the sheath at all. The only thing on the blade is a "Z" with a circle around it. Someone has etched TR 912 on the end, which is the rifle's serial number. This must be a reproduction or something made up to sell with the rifles. I bought the rifle in Nov 2003 from Aim Surplus.

stede · 05-05-2010, 07:37 PM

Not a repro, Moody- an export model. I used to have a list of the countries that bought VZ-24s from Czechoslovakia, can't find it now but MANY countries bought 'em, including Europe, the Middle East, and much of South America. The bayonets that went with the rifles don't wear Czech national military markings like H&R's piece...

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 05-06-2010, 07:39 AM

I have one of those, usually had for $18-30. Mine has a miss-matched scabbard, off a Mauser bayonet.

02-28-2010, 07:21 PM	#1
H&Rfanatic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 29	vz-24 bayonet VZ-24 knife and matching sheathe. E-23 with serial number of C-5896 Z with circle Lions crest with circle.. Blade is upward on rifle.. wood and blade are excellent what year and a guesstimate of what it is worth??? -->

03-01-2010, 08:21 PM	#2
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 92	Re: vz-24 bayonet How long is the blade? 450mm is standard for the Pattern 98/22 (also called VZ23), but the same model with a shorter blade is the VZ24... yours looks nice and nicely marked, is the bayonet marked CSZ like the scabbard? Are there unit marks stamped on the back of the pommel? And yes, 23 (1923) is the year of manufacture. I ask these questions because- and I'm sure you know- the Czechs produced one hell of a lot of these bayonets. Most went with export orders for all the countries to whom they supplied VZ-24 rifles. Small details mean the difference in the value of your bayonet... Last edited by stede; 03-01-2010 at 08:36 PM..

03-01-2010, 08:54 PM	#3
H&Rfanatic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 29	Re: vz-24 bayonet The knife is 15" long and the blade is 10" long. There is a CSZ on both articles The only unit number is the C 5896 Was this the first year they put the blade up??? Was this the first year they manufactured these knifes.. thank you for the info.. , Last edited by H&Rfanatic; 03-01-2010 at 09:13 PM.. Reason: pictures

03-01-2010, 09:35 PM	#4
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 92	Re: vz-24 bayonet The number C5896 is in fact matched to the serial number of the rifle it was issued with; these are some of the few bayonets of any country to have been matched with the rifle. You probably know that Czechoslovakia was formed as a country out of the debris of WW1; one of the privileges granted it was manufacture of the Mauser rifle. The first rifles made were identical to the standard M98 issued to German troops in the war, and the long M98/22 was the bayonet designed for them but the Czechs quickly modified the design of the Mauser rifle into the VZ-24 carbine, which was more in keeping with the 'modern' ideas of the time- ie a shorter and handier firearm. Yours is a transition piece- made in '23 but with the shorter blade that became standard with the Bodak (bayonet) 24. It is a nice example, but so very many were made that they don't fetch a lot, really- $40-$60 would be the range, in my opinion. Still, a very nice example of the pattern... best, Steve

04-27-2010, 07:02 PM	#6
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: vz-24 bayonet Could be worth alot more to the right collector... __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W

04-28-2010, 09:15 PM	#7
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 92	Re: vz-24 bayonet Could be worth alot more to the right collector... True dat! A collector needing this (very nice) example to fill a hole would certainly pay more than the average price...

05-05-2010, 11:56 AM	#8
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,305	Re: vz-24 bayonet When I bought my VZ-24, it also came with a bayonet which looks exactly like this one. After looking a this thread, I dug the bayonet out and looked at it. There are no markings on the sheath at all. The only thing on the blade is a "Z" with a circle around it. Someone has etched TR 912 on the end, which is the rifle's serial number. This must be a reproduction or something made up to sell with the rifles. I bought the rifle in Nov 2003 from Aim Surplus. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

05-05-2010, 07:37 PM	#9
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 92	Re: vz-24 bayonet Not a repro, Moody- an export model. I used to have a list of the countries that bought VZ-24s from Czechoslovakia, can't find it now but MANY countries bought 'em, including Europe, the Middle East, and much of South America. The bayonets that went with the rifles don't wear Czech national military markings like H&R's piece...

05-06-2010, 07:39 AM	#10
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,832	Re: vz-24 bayonet I have one of those, usually had for $18-30. Mine has a miss-matched scabbard, off a Mauser bayonet.