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Old 06-21-2010, 07:29 PM   #1
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Default John P. Lovell Pocket Knife

Hi,


I have an antique advertising pocket knife as described:

2 blade and cork screw, with yellow handles that appear to be celluloid or ivory. I would vote on the celluliod, but who knows. On one side the handle has the following "John P. Lovell Boston Arms Co. American Bull Dog."

The opposite side has a hunting scene with a man, dog, and deer.

I have had this knife for some time along with otheers that I have researched to be American Colonial period, and etc.

I could use your help.

Thanks in advance,
Julius

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Old 06-21-2010, 07:54 PM   #2
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Can't say who made it without pictures. Can say it wasn't Lovell.
What does it say on the tang of the blade? Celluloid smells like camphor when rubbed. Ivory doesn't.
From the advertising logo, it sounds like it was made between the World Wars.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:17 PM   #3
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Sorry about the tang. It is marked on the mail blade, "LOVELL KNIfe"

Thanks for your response. I will try to get pictures out ASAP.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:20 PM   #4
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Sorry, here is more info.

The handles are installed with iron rivets.

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Old 06-21-2010, 08:57 PM   #5
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Here is the photos, hope it helps.

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Old 06-21-2010, 09:08 PM   #6
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The knife is possibly a little older than I thought.
There is information on Lovell's company here: http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=64752
As far as who made the knife for them, I would ask on Bernard Levine's forum on Bladeforums.com
My guess is The knife is German, but it could also be American, or even English.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:19 PM   #7
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Thanks for all your help, and your quick responces. I will do as you instructed.

Many thanks,
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:47 PM   #8
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Hi Bill,

I followed your instructions and attempted to register on that Blade Forum. However I ran into a snag. They won't allow anyone with a "verizon.net' URL.

Thanks for trying,
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:10 PM   #9
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Default Re: John P. Lovell Pocket Knife

J.P. Lovell Arms Co. during this time 1888 to 1899 made nothing but were sellers of other people's goods that they called their own. a good example is the champion single barrel shotgun made by iver johnson.

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Old 06-22-2010, 04:33 PM   #10
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Hi Mr. Goforth,

Do you have any idea of it's value?

Thanks for all your effort,
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:30 PM   #11
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i have no idea as to the worth of a pocket knife that is over 100 years old. surely it has some value but how much i just don't know.

my interest is in the fact it has J.P. Lovell's name on it and they were associated with iver johnson's arms & cycle works.

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Old 06-24-2010, 11:31 AM   #12
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Mr. Goforth,

I am thinking of placing this knife on ebay.

Can you please contact me at: junkman.junkman@verizon.net

Thanks,
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