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Old 07-01-2010, 01:32 PM   #1
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NRA Now Leans Toward Endorsing Harry Reid

By Erick Erickson

Thursday, July 1st

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Multiple sources tell me the National Rifle Association is planning to endorse liberal Harry Reid against pro-gun champion Sharron Angle.


Two weeks ago, I told you about the carveout the NRA received in exchange for their support for the DISCLOSE ACT deal.

Then this week, RedState broke the story of the “gag order” the NRA issued to members of its Board on the Kagan nomination.

Now, I’m getting credible reports that the NRA is leaning toward endorsing Harry Reid, even though the NRA is finally saying it will score a vote on Kagan — something that was not a sure thing.

Why would they do this? Why would they go out of their way to protect a Senator who has demonstrated a repeated hostility to the Second Amendment in his votes and his leadership?

Well, I thought perhaps the NRA carveout in the DISCLOSE Act might be the answer. But, there is more. It turns out, Reid secured a $61 million earmark for a gun range in Clark County, Nevada.

NRA members were recently treated to a three-page spread in the American Rifleman about a visit to Nevada by Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox to “thank” Reid for the earmark. The article even includes a cliché picture of Reid cutting a ribbon with a gigantic pair of scissors. (Every good porker has his own giant pair of gold earmark scissors.) More here.

Here is a video of the event from Reid’s youtube site.

At 3:25, you can hear LaPierre touting Reid’s record on guns saying, “I also want to thank you, Senator, for your support every day for the Second Amendment and for the rights of American gun owners. “

The American Rifleman article also commends Reid’s Second Amendment record noting, “His dedication to this project is just one of the ways Sen. Reid has demonstrated his support for gun owners and the Second Amendment.”

Well, that’s all very nice. What politician representing a pro-gun red state wouldn’t want Wayne LaPierre to come out for a personal photo op at their earmark ribbon cutting.
But, here is the problem. Reid has not supported the Second Amendment “every day.” Or ever.

Reid has a lifetime rating of “F” from Gun Owners of America (who Ron Paul once called “the only no-compromise gun lobby in Washington”). GOA is actively supporting the 100% pro-gun Republican nominee, Sharron Angle, in her campaign to unseat Harry Reid.
But if you don’t believe GOA, see for yourself below the fold. Then call (800) 392-VOTE (8683) before it is too late and make the NRA knows they’d be betraying second amendment voters by endorsing Harry Reid.

Below are just a few of the votes that demonstrate Reid’s longstanding hostility to guns and the Second Amendment. Not included in this list is the long list of consistent and active support for anti-gun nominees to the Federal Judiciary and to high level cabinet posts. The reason I did not include anti-gun nominees is because he supported every last one of them.

June 28, 1991. Vote No. 115. Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases.

October 21, 1993. Vote 325. Voted to eliminate the Army Civilian Marksmanship Program. Only the most fringe anti-gun Senators voted for the amendment.

November 19, 1993. Vote 385. Allow states to impose waiting periods over and above the 5 days waiting period required under the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 386. Voted to eliminate he 5-year sunset in the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 387. Voted to close off debate on the Brady Bill.

November 19, 1993. Vote 390. Voted to close off debate on the Brady Bill.

November 20, 1993. Vote 394. Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-business-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun.

August 25, 1994. Vote 294. Voted to close off debate on the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on so-called “assault weapons.”

August 25, 1994. Vote 295. Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on so-called “assault weapons.”

April 17, 1996. Vote 64. Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years.

June 27, 1996. Vote 178. Voting to destroy 176,000 M-1 Garand rifles from World War II, and 150 million rounds of 30 caliber ammunition, rather than giving them to the Federal Civilian Marksmanship program.

September 12, 1996. Vote 287. Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting “taggants” in black and smokeless gunpowder.

September 12, 1996. Vote 290. Voted to make it a Federal crime to possess a gun within 1,000 yards of a school.

May 12, 1999. Vote 111. Voted to give the Treasury Department expansive new authority to regulate and keep records on gun shows and their participants, and criminalize many intrastate firearms transactions.

May 13, 1999. Vote 116. Voted to ban the importation of ammunition clips that can hold more than 10 rounds.

May 14, 1999. Vote 119. Voted to criminalize internet advertisements to sell legal firearms in a legal manner.

May 18, 1999. Vote 122. Voted to for Mandatory triggerlocks.

May 20, 1999. Vote 133. Voted to create new Federal regulation of pawn shops handling of guns.

May 20, 1999. Vote 134. Voted to give the Treasury Department expansive new authority to regulate and keep records on gun shows and their participants, and criminalize many intrastate firearms transactions. The vote was 50-50, with Vice President Gore casting the tie-breaking vote.

May 20, 1999. Vote 140. Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a package of gun control measures.

July 29, 1999. Vote 224. Voted to close debate on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a package of gun control measures.

February 2, 2000. Vote 4. Voted to make firearms manufacturers and distributors’ debts nondischargeable in bankruptcy if they were sued because they unknowingly sold guns to individuals who used the gun in a crime. 68 Senators voted against Reid’s position, including 17 Democrats including Bryan of Nevada.

March 2, 2000. Vote 27. Voted to say that school violence was due to the fact that Congress “failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures” and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings.

March 2, 2000. Vote 28. Voted to say that school violence was due to the fact that Congress “failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures” and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings (reconsideration of vote 27).

March 2, 2000. Vote 32. Voted to use Federal taxpayer funds to hand out anti-gun literature in schools and to run anti-gun public service announcements.

April 6, 2000. Vote 64. Voted for a gun control package including new onerous restrictions on gun shows.

April 7, 2000. Vote 74. Voted against an amendment to provide for the enforcement of existing gun laws in lieu of new burdensome gun control mandates.

May 16, 2000. Vote 100. Voted to commend the participants of the so-called “Million Mom March” for their demand for more Federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures.

May 17, 2000. Vote 102. Vote to overturn the ruling of the chair that the Daschle amendment (commending the participants of the so-called “Million Mom March” for their demand for more Federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures) was out of order.
May 17, 2000. Vote 103. Voted against an amendment stating “the right of each law-abiding United States citizen to own a firearm for any legitimate purpose, including self-defense or recreation, should not be infringed.”

May 17, 2000. Vote 104. Voted for an amendment commending the participants of the so-called “Million Mom March” for their demand for more Federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures.

February 26, 2004. Vote 17. Voted for mandatory triggerlocks.

March 2, 2004. Vote 25. Voted for Federal regulation of gun shows.

July 28, 2005. Vote 207. Voted for mandatory triggerlocks.

March 5, 2009. Vote 83. Voted against a ban on the United Nations imposing taxes on American citizens after France and other world leaders proposed a global tax on firearms.
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Old 07-01-2010, 02:59 PM   #2
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OK...OK...I admit, this is not good....this is just plain crazy....what are they thinking!? My eyes may be opening.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:14 PM   #3
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I'm kinda wondering where this is all leading to. I got sick of the NRA's constant badgering for money every month, so I let my enrollment lapse. But now, I'm believe it's time to get back to what the NRA used to stand for. It certainly wasn't backing anti-gunners like Reid. Who's next, Feinstein or Schumer? They have certainly slipped down from the days of Charlton Heston. TJ
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:34 PM   #4
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I'll stay silent this time.

But I told ya so!!!!

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Old 07-01-2010, 05:38 PM   #5
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How long have they supported this dirt bag?
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:52 PM   #6
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How long have they supported this dirt bag?
Long enuff to give members dues to his campaign fund
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Old 07-01-2010, 08:26 PM   #7
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I too was horified by this. There needs to be some changes in the leadership. I am starting to send more support the way of the GOA
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Gentleman, we passed the turn for the surreal a couple of years ago. We are now in uncharted territory. It is time to formulate a chain of command and control, gather intelligence on our situation, and formulate a plan to get from where we are to where we need to be. While I am also talking about this Fall's election cycle, I am also talking about much more. The world we knew a few years ago no longer exists, and we need to adjust to meet the current sitrep.
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I know, I know...rub it in.
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Wait and see.......

The net is full of hoaxes and hoaxers..... >MW
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Two weeks ago, I told you about the carveout the NRA received in exchange for their support for the DISCLOSE ACT deal.

Then this week, RedState broke the story of the “gag order” the NRA issued to members of its Board on the Kagan nomination.

Now, I’m getting credible reports that the NRA is leaning toward endorsing Harry Reid, even though the NRA is finally saying it will score a vote on Kagan — something that was not a sure thing.
carveout the NRA received in exchange - Did not happen that way. The exemption was unsolicitated and not negotiated by NRA-ILA.

“gag order” the NRA issued to members of its Board - Not a 'gag." These emails/communications are issued on every item NRA-ILA is considering taking action on. "Don't go running off on your own, because we need to do a united, cohesive effort. Let's charge as a brigade, not a bunch of individuals."

credible reports that the NRA is leaning toward endorsing Harry Reid, Rumor, reported by one with a history of NRA bashing and dividing.

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We are rapidly approaching the time when NRA’s Political Action Committee the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) will begin issuing endorsements in elections across the country.

As always in an election year, we receive many calls and e-mails inquiring about our endorsement policy in general, and specific races in particular. That trend has certainly held up this year, as we have received many inquiries about high profile races, such as the Nevada Senate race involving Senator Harry Reid. For the record, NRA-PVF has not yet announced any ratings or endorsements in this race.

With few exceptions, and for several reasons, we generally do not announce ratings or endorsements until closer to the elections. There are still votes to be graded and other information to be evaluated prior to issuing an accurate grade as Election Day nears.

As in every election year, some of these endorsements prompt questions concerning the criteria NRA-PVF uses in making these decisions. Following is a brief explanation of that policy.

The NRA-PVF is non-partisan in issuing its candidate grades and endorsements. We do not base our decisions on a candidate’s party affiliation, but rather on his or her record on Second Amendment issues. The NRA is a single-issue organization. The only issues on which we evaluate candidates seeking elected office are gun-related issues. While there are many issues a candidate must address with voters, and while voters evaluate a number of non-gun-related issues in factoring which candidate they will support or oppose, NRA-PVF’s sole criteria in issuing grades and endorsements is a candidate’s position on gun-related issues.
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I'll wait and see. (While communicating my concerns with the organization.)

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The NRA has a history of dong this. In Colorado the NRA handed out $ 10,000 to John Salazar(D) before they knew who would be running against him. He is the brother of Ken Salazar of the Gulf oil spill fame. In return for the NRA support, Salazar has been a lock step liberal, and no friend to guns.

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I think if I were a Nevadan, I just might vote for Reid. The "word" is that if Reid loses, and the Dems retain control of the Senate, Chuckles Shumer will become the new majority leader. Shumer's hatreds are famous, and most of all he hates US! You and me and everyone who owns or ever even thought of owning a gun. If he gets that kind of power, there will be an assault weapons ban, a semi-auto ban, a handgun ban, a milsurp ban, a pump shotgun ban, etc., etc. We might be allowed to keep single barrel shotguns, but only by buying a $10,000 hunting license and passing endless "tests" on hunting.

So is Reid good? NO! Is he the lesser of two evils? Probably.

Of course the best outcome would be for the Dems to lose both houses of Congress, but that might not happen.

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One of the most beautiful aspects of our government is everyone is entitled to an opinion they can express ! And one of the most beautiful aspects of the Net is such get a wide audience, which brings them into conflict with other opinions. Another aspect of the Net is exposure to an ocean of "facts" and maybe not so "facts" ! Peruse, and believe, carefully !!

A historically documentable axiom is the human species has a remarkable talent to act against its own best interests. Members of the "Gun Culture" aren't exceptions to that axiom ! The NRA, formed shortly post -Civil War - has a long history of acting in the interests of the firearms culture and society. Sea changes in the political landscape post 1968 neccessarily changed the NRA mission from supportive to politically active. And the nature of politics is one of compromise and dealing. Its nature is also one of perfidity, subterfuge, propaganda. Make sure you know which of these manifold aspects you're examining.

Feel free to criticize the NRA for what you perceive as errors of ommission or commission . There are several other firearms organizations working to the same ends as the NRA. Feel free to join/support them in our mutual endeavor.

Just remember this ! Anti-gunners have shown themselves to be unprincipled, mendacious and manipulative of the public, press, and government ! What better way to discredit a dangerous opponent than to manipulate public and membership opinion against it ? >MW
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I think if I were a Nevadan, I just might vote for Reid. The "word" is that if Reid loses, and the Dems retain control of the Senate, Chuckles Shumer will become the new majority leader. Shumer's hatreds are famous, and most of all he hates US! You and me and everyone who owns or ever even thought of owning a gun. If he gets that kind of power, there will be an assault weapons ban, a semi-auto ban, a handgun ban, a milsurp ban, a pump shotgun ban, etc., etc. We might be allowed to keep single barrel shotguns, but only by buying a $10,000 hunting license and passing endless "tests" on hunting.

So is Reid good? NO! Is he the lesser of two evils? Probably.

Of course the best outcome would be for the Dems to lose both houses of Congress, but that might not happen.

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I would never vote for Reid. If that is the case we need to find a way to get Schumer out of power. I am sure there is dirt on him. We really need to fight hard this november, things are really not good
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I saw Lapierre say that the Harry Reed rumor was false and that no endorsement has been made. But that wont matter. Bash away. Thanks Pops for your post. Maybe this place isnt completely an anti-NRA site after all. Well, that would be debateable.
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I saw Lapierre say that the Harry Reed rumor was false and that no endorsement has been made. But that wont matter. Bash away. Thanks Pops for your post. Maybe this place isnt completely an anti-NRA site after all. Well, thats would be debateable.
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Multiple sources tell me the National Rifle Association is planning to endorse liberal Harry Reid against pro-gun champion Sharron Angle.

Two weeks ago, I told you about the carveout the NRA received in exchange for their support for the DISCLOSE ACT deal.

Then this week, RedState broke the story of the “gag order” the NRA issued to members of its Board on the Kagan nomination.

Now, I’m getting credible reports that the NRA is leaning toward endorsing Harry Reid, even though the NRA is finally saying it will score a vote on Kagan — something that was not a sure thing.

Why would they do this? Why would they go out of their way to protect a Senator who has demonstrated a repeated hostility to the Second Amendment in his votes and his leadership?

Well, I thought perhaps the NRA carveout in the DISCLOSE Act might be the answer. But, there is more. It turns out, Reid secured a $61 million earmark for a gun range in Clark County, Nevada.

NRA members were recently treated to a three-page spread in the American Rifleman about a visit to Nevada by Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox to “thank” Reid for the earmark. The article even includes a cliché picture of Reid cutting a ribbon with a gigantic pair of scissors. (Every good porker has his own giant pair of gold earmark scissors.) More here.

Here is a video of the event from Reid’s youtube site.

At 3:25, you can hear LaPierre touting Reid’s record on guns saying, “I also want to thank you, Senator, for your support every day for the Second Amendment and for the rights of American gun owners. “

The American Rifleman article also commends Reid’s Second Amendment record noting, “His dedication to this project is just one of the ways Sen. Reid has demonstrated his support for gun owners and the Second Amendment.”

Well, that’s all very nice. What politician representing a pro-gun red state wouldn’t want Wayne LaPierre to come out for a personal photo op at their earmark ribbon cutting.

But, here is the problem. Reid has not supported the Second Amendment “every day.” Or ever.

Reid has a lifetime rating of “F” from Gun Owners of America (who Ron Paul once called “the only no-compromise gun lobby in Washington”). GOA is actively supporting the 100% pro-gun Republican nominee, Sharron Angle, in her campaign to unseat Harry Reid.

But if you don’t believe GOA, see for yourself below the fold. Then call (800) 392-VOTE (8683) before it is too late and make the NRA knows they’d be betraying second amendment voters by endorsing Harry Reid.
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I'm at a complete loss. first, I finally achieve the age to join AARP, and they back O's healthcare, so they are out. now I come into some cash to finally become an NRA life member, and they pull this.

I can't win.
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Well, I know Charlton will be rolling in his grave of they back this dirt bag.


rentalguy, to put it another way: Watch the other hand!!
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This gives the nra more power, the other gun related assoc's will have to lay down and let the nra do the talking ,, me thinks that it adds to the membership,,, more money,,, my gut don't feel to good about this end around play
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This reminds me of the NRA enforcing McCain over JD Hayworth.

The NRA clearly gave Hayworth a better score than McCain, yet still...

I started a thread about McCain VS Hayworth, but it has been deleted so I guess I won't bother reposting it.
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Just like AARP, the NRA seems to be leaning to the left. I'll never join AARP and I already dropped my NRA membership.
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