Texas gun laws(will be moving there shortly)

[Terry_P]

Originally Posted by Danwin22

As for carrying in a bar, I know too many guys who have a total personality change when they drink and I'd hate to be around if they had a gun when they're in nasty mode.

I agree that if you are going to drink then you need to take some personal responsibility and leave your firearms at home. What I have a problem with is some of the dumb laws that are on the books and how they widely vary from state to state. In NH there are no restrictions, in TX it's fairly clear if it's a bar then no carry if it's a restaurant then you can (I know that isn't the law with the 50% revenue rule but that is pretty much how it works out) in FL it's no carry in bars and bar area's of restaurants so if the bathroom is on the other side of the bar make sure your bladder is empty before you enter and in other states you cannot carry where they serve alcohol. If this has to be legislated then maybe what they should do is say no drinking while you are carrying but even that is stupidly gray in interpertation. Does last night count on the morning after? It gets back to personal responsibility, up here we can carry most everywhere and there is no "blood in the streets" with bar fight shootouts between CCL holders. Given the responsibility people act accordingly without some on the dole bureaucrat telling us what to do.

[yellerdawg]

Originally Posted by flyingcubby

This question is from the people in the know about what guns are allowed in Texas. I currently live in California and have my place for sale. We have A place picked out in Austin. Question is here in Calif. assult rifles are a tabu. What are allowed are a very slim choice. I currently only have a Kel-tec 16. With my C&R I am not allowed to purchase any 762.39 that don't meet the criteria of any gun with a removable mag. Does Texas allow the newer type with removable mags. I'm hoping that there are more laxed rules in what one can own. Looking forward to moving. Thanks for any info.....Mike

Howdy and hope you have a safe move pardner. Other than business I went there for, or our oldest daughter who moved to Semi Valley...nothing in CA ever held me. We can make room for yall here, for sure.



Always check yourself for final info and such, and despite best intentions of a forum , including my own , you obviously recognize these are important issues. Later google...Department of public Safety ( DPS ) Texas..for an ever improving web site link just for concealed carry....

As to weapons prohibited...also at convenience , search - Texas , Penal Code ...weapons...etc... For practical purposes...if you are clear per background Federal etc...to purchase/own a weapon, you will be same here.



Just a "couple" interesting points I pass along when people politely ask about our gun laws, as you have done.


-No "registering" per se...of weapons or owner. Just required pre sale
background check. No limit per purchase or frequency, weapons/ammo.

- For CHL, always responsibility of user to be aware of locations, and
a verbal or written notice of non allowance is reason to leave weapon
off premise. As for bars....is a requirement per Texas to such places
and their owners...if revenue is 51% from alcohol "served" , a sign called
the ( 51 ) sign , white over blue...is required by place of business.

Otherwise, if not 51% , drinking in any section allowed, however, many
CHL holders sometimes forget, or just dont know, the State holds them
to a higher standard than John Q. Public. By this , I mean , in Texas we
have the legal limit as others.... .08 , but, for a CHL carrying on their
person , and having been drinking , there is NO limit. Any tested, smelt,
etc, is bye bye License to carry. If you drink, lock it in trunk and leave
it there , just " my " advice and opinion.

- Yes, recent laws around 2007, often referred to as "Castle Law" etc...
( Note " technically , no Castle Law officially in Texas ,as taught to me
by DPS Legal, but name is used due to similarity to other States...etc.)
enacted some weapon changes.

Two I find interesting are -

1- Yes, additions to "property" definitions ,to include or allow vehicles
having a weapon , long as you own vehicle, would otherwise not be
prohibited from weapon etc...and are legal resident and driving
anywhere in Texas, and weapon(s) is out of sight.


2- Was also change made in 2009, you no longer are "required" to notify
an officer or magistrate you are carrying, if stopped and asked for
identification. This was done, because of law changes in item 1
I listed above. State decided, rightfully so, a CHL holder should not
be treated stricter than a regular citizen that could have a newspaper
folded over his handgun and not have to say a word about it legally...

But for any local , remember , they took ALL penalties out of not
furnishing CHL ID to an officer , but wording in Gov Code did not or
wont get changed till Texas next Legislature...I teach to go ahead
and identify, as a courtesy and other reasons.


As to the Utah carry license currently allowed here,you didnt hear it from
me,but expect changes possibly next Session. States have a way of
wanting to regulate ALL within their control, and especially revenue.

A current legal CHL Texas course is minimum 10-15 hours first time. And
minimum 4 hours for renewal.



regards ,

[flyingcubby]

Originally Posted by yellerdawg

Howdy and hope you have a safe move pardner. Other than business I went there for, or our oldest daughter who moved to Semi Valley...nothing in CA ever held me. We can make room for yall here, for sure.



Always check yourself for final info and such, and despite best intentions of a forum , including my own , you obviously recognize these are important issues. Later google...Department of public Safety ( DPS ) Texas..for an ever improving web site link just for concealed carry....

As to weapons prohibited...also at convenience , search - Texas , Penal Code ...weapons...etc... For practical purposes...if you are clear per background Federal etc...to purchase/own a weapon, you will be same here.



Just a "couple" interesting points I pass along when people politely ask about our gun laws, as you have done.


-No "registering" per se...of weapons or owner. Just required pre sale
background check. No limit per purchase or frequency, weapons/ammo.

- For CHL, always responsibility of user to be aware of locations, and
a verbal or written notice of non allowance is reason to leave weapon
off premise. As for bars....is a requirement per Texas to such places
and their owners...if revenue is 51% from alcohol "served" , a sign called
the ( 51 ) sign , white over blue...is required by place of business.

Otherwise, if not 51% , drinking in any section allowed, however, many
CHL holders sometimes forget, or just dont know, the State holds them
to a higher standard than John Q. Public. By this , I mean , in Texas we
have the legal limit as others.... .08 , but, for a CHL carrying on their
person , and having been drinking , there is NO limit. Any tested, smelt,
etc, is bye bye License to carry. If you drink, lock it in trunk and leave
it there , just " my " advice and opinion.

- Yes, recent laws around 2007, often referred to as "Castle Law" etc...
( Note " technically , no Castle Law officially in Texas ,as taught to me
by DPS Legal, but name is used due to similarity to other States...etc.)
enacted some weapon changes.

Two I find interesting are -

1- Yes, additions to "property" definitions ,to include or allow vehicles
having a weapon , long as you own vehicle, would otherwise not be
prohibited from weapon etc...and are legal resident and driving
anywhere in Texas, and weapon(s) is out of sight.


2- Was also change made in 2009, you no longer are "required" to notify
an officer or magistrate you are carrying, if stopped and asked for
identification. This was done, because of law changes in item 1
I listed above. State decided, rightfully so, a CHL holder should not
be treated stricter than a regular citizen that could have a newspaper
folded over his handgun and not have to say a word about it legally...

But for any local , remember , they took ALL penalties out of not
furnishing CHL ID to an officer , but wording in Gov Code did not or
wont get changed till Texas next Legislature...I teach to go ahead
and identify, as a courtesy and other reasons.


As to the Utah carry license currently allowed here,you didnt hear it from
me,but expect changes possibly next Session. States have a way of
wanting to regulate ALL within their control, and especially revenue.

A current legal CHL Texas course is minimum 10-15 hours first time. And
minimum 4 hours for renewal.



regards ,

Yellerdawg, thanks for the update.Now is the time to move to a different area where we have some family and can enjoy a little more freedom. Should have made the move back in the 70's but didn't. So now retired and want to have the enjoyment without Bigbrother with their hands on your shoulder all the time. Have been seeing all the good things, like the police don't seam to just slap the hands of the bad guys and then let them go. Gee what a change that will be. Thanks for the best wishes on the move...Mike

[yellerdawg]

Anytime Pardner...hope move works out.


One thing I didnt mention, but always get tickeled at....

Other States "may " have it, I dont know.....

But our Code and law has the usual provisions about a Municipality and such cant legislate arm control or confiscation, but of course can legislate local laws as to emergency conditions and public welfare, as to carrying/displaying firearms...etc...

But the one item I always smile at....in the code ( a carry over all the way from our State Constitution )..." A citizen make keep up to 25 pounds, and a Merchant 50 pounds of Black powder, that cannot be
regulated by law....


So..I guess...get you a Musket, some fishin weights to melt....and you're never unarmed....