Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? - The Firearms Forum

9 fingers · 01-09-2010, 09:05 AM

Hi, found a Blue Wonder video on the web and it looked like great system. Any one tried it? What do you think?
Thanks, 9 fingers

LurpyGeek · 01-09-2010, 10:05 AM

I'm not a chemist or professional gun smith, but I do have some experience with Blue Wonder. My father took a gunsmithing class in college 50 years ago and restored / customized a beautiful Spanish Mauser in 7x57 as his deer rifle. He hasn't really done any gunsmithing since then, but he is an engineer and is very mechanical.

Last year as part of an indoors "winter project" he decided to restore a Steven's 22-410 that he has had for over 50 years. He looked into hot bluing it and found that it would likely cost more than the rifle. He knew that cold bluing doesn't hold up so well, but he came across Blue Wonder with the tagline "It's not hot blue, it's not cold blue, it's Blue Wonder." He watched several of the demonstration videos online and though he would give it a shot.

He has been very impressed by the look and durability of the finish. He even blued a piece of steel from the trigger assembly and then carried it around with him all day rubbing it like a worry stone and polishing it with different types of cloth. This had no noticeable effect on the finish.

I don't work for the company and your results may very, but this was his experience.

9 fingers · 01-09-2010, 01:38 PM

Thanks for the input, I am going to give it a try. And I love that gun. let me know if you would like to sell it sometime.
9 fingers

LurpyGeek · 01-09-2010, 02:30 PM

Actually...

He has the Stevens 22-410 pictured above, and he also has a Savage that is almost identical (Savage bought Stevens shortly after the one pictured above was made).

The Savage (a model 24 I think) is chambered in .22 magnum and .410 shotgun. It's in pretty rough shape as was the Stevens, but he plans to fix it up similarly in the spring and sell it.

Shooter45 · 01-09-2010, 02:59 PM

Excellent product.

belercous · 01-11-2010, 09:50 PM

I've had good luck with it on a Mossberg 20 ga. 185-D shotgun. Just make sure to neutralize it with water.
I've had better luck (more even coloring) with Brownell's Oxpho-Blue, and I think it is a better product, but Blue Wonder isn't bad. Oxpho-Blue is great for touch-up as it doesn't require the metal to be as clean. It works thru light oil & even light rust where that will leave splotches with Blue Wonder.

Helix_FR · 01-12-2010, 09:26 AM

I've used it a couple of times but ended up redoing them anyway with a different product. Tried it on a winchester 12 and it never got all that dark. Then also tried it on a slide of a CZ83 and it was really uneven no matter how I applied it. Some people swear by it but for me it was a waist of money.

rclinton · 01-12-2010, 11:11 AM

I have just finished my first any only attempt at reblueing a firearm. I am very impressed with the finished results I have gotten on my 1963 Sears & Roebuck model 45 30-30 (Marlin 336c) Some tips that worked well for me. I completly disassembled the rifle and blued individual parts. Cleaning/sanding/buffing you your desire, but prep as always is critical. I utilized an electric heat gun vice a propane torch for heat. The key for me was the paalication of heat. If the part is heated (arm/hot to the touch) the application of the blueing goes on better and much darker. Work on sections of the gun at a time, the blueing will blend well. Make sure you use both the neuturalizing oil and the follow up oil tretment for best results. I applied between 2 to 4 coats of the blueing process and like I stated the results were very good. The system is easy to work with and if you make a mistake you can just remove the blueing and start over.

bntyhntr6975 · 01-12-2010, 01:45 PM

LurpyGeek: My grandfather had (he died several yrs ago) that same Stevens. (My grandmother still has all of his firearms, they will soon be mine.) I never got to shoot it, but thats the one he would always brag about when it came to accuracy. It had bee one of his brother's until he died probly 20 yrs ago, then it went to my grandfather. I was told that my great uncle had bought it new. That little gun put ALOT of squirrels and rabbits on the table. Very nice, thank you.

BPNovum · 12-08-2010, 06:17 PM

I haven't been on in a while, but thanks for the testimonial! Looks like the BW did the job for you. Please let me know if you guys have any questions about Blue Wonder.

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Originally Posted by LurpyGeek

I'm not a chemist or professional gun smith, but I do have some experience with Blue Wonder. My father took a gunsmithing class in college 50 years ago and restored / customized a beautiful Spanish Mauser in 7x57 as his deer rifle. He hasn't really done any gunsmithing since then, but he is an engineer and is very mechanical.

Last year as part of an indoors "winter project" he decided to restore a Steven's 22-410 that he has had for over 50 years. He looked into hot bluing it and found that it would likely cost more than the rifle. He knew that cold bluing doesn't hold up so well, but he came across Blue Wonder with the tagline "It's not hot blue, it's not cold blue, it's Blue Wonder." He watched several of the demonstration videos online and though he would give it a shot.

He has been very impressed by the look and durability of the finish. He even blued a piece of steel from the trigger assembly and then carried it around with him all day rubbing it like a worry stone and polishing it with different types of cloth. This had no noticeable effect on the finish.

I don't work for the company and your results may very, but this was his experience.

Big Shrek · 12-09-2010, 05:58 PM

I picked up a Birchwood-Casey blue kit the other day for one of my beat-up/scratched-up pistols.

Some of the scratches are pretty deep, I'm thinking about breaking out the Dremel, but they're on curved surfaces
so I'm unsure of whether the scratches will come off without squaring the round stuff.

What's the best way to remove scratches without messing up the frame?? Steel Wool ain't doing much...

grcsat · 12-09-2010, 07:46 PM

Big Shrek

I'm a little old fashion when it comes to that. But I use only medium soft honing stones , both ridged flat and thin flexable. Takes a fair amount of time and a little practice.But once you get the hang of it , you'l never use anything else. Also, no rounded edges unless you want them there. It is messey because you use a oil lub. The reults can be amazing when your finished. No rounded corners like the poor quality buff jobs.

Forgot . Never had any luck with the Casy Blue kits. If you were a little closer I'd give you a bottle of Dicropan-IM. Works real good on hand guns but a pain for rifles.

gunplumber · 12-11-2010, 07:35 AM

Several years ago Bob was in my area and called to see if he could come demonstrate his products. Always on the lookout for a better mousetrap I invited him out. We took a old bbl and polished it out and he reblued it with his product. I was amazed how well it worked but we did have to apply it more than once to get it real dark. For a person who likes to do his own stuff and who doesn't have hot tanks and is not bothered by production time it's the best product I have seen. I didn't purchase it due to the time involved getting the proper color and time involved is THE big factor here. On the other hand, I cleaned a bbl and then he used his bore cleaner on it and I wanted to run backards......I have used his bore cleaner ever since and I'm about out so it's time to reorder.

gunplumber · 12-11-2010, 07:46 AM

I use small flat files wrapped with paper to sand the flats out and a fat gum erasure with paper to sand rounded corners. Rubber heater hose or vac line hoses work on concave surfaces. Demel tools will get you into trouble without lots of care.

grcsat · 12-11-2010, 08:30 AM

I can honestly say I learned my lesson with dremel tools. They are great for all sorts of jobs ,But polishing handguns is not one of them. So If you must use them ,be really carefull or better yet try not to use them at all.

01-09-2010, 09:05 AM	#1
9 fingers V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northwest NJ Posts: 134	Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? Hi, found a Blue Wonder video on the web and it looked like great system. Any one tried it? What do you think? Thanks, 9 fingers -->

01-09-2010, 10:05 AM	#2
LurpyGeek Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UT Posts: 1,436	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? I'm not a chemist or professional gun smith, but I do have some experience with Blue Wonder. My father took a gunsmithing class in college 50 years ago and restored / customized a beautiful Spanish Mauser in 7x57 as his deer rifle. He hasn't really done any gunsmithing since then, but he is an engineer and is very mechanical. Last year as part of an indoors "winter project" he decided to restore a Steven's 22-410 that he has had for over 50 years. He looked into hot bluing it and found that it would likely cost more than the rifle. He knew that cold bluing doesn't hold up so well, but he came across Blue Wonder with the tagline "It's not hot blue, it's not cold blue, it's Blue Wonder." He watched several of the demonstration videos online and though he would give it a shot. He has been very impressed by the look and durability of the finish. He even blued a piece of steel from the trigger assembly and then carried it around with him all day rubbing it like a worry stone and polishing it with different types of cloth. This had no noticeable effect on the finish. I don't work for the company and your results may very, but this was his experience. __________________ Knowing is half the battle... Of course, the other half is violence.

01-09-2010, 01:38 PM	#3
9 fingers V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northwest NJ Posts: 134	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? Thanks for the input, I am going to give it a try. And I love that gun. let me know if you would like to sell it sometime. 9 fingers

01-09-2010, 02:30 PM	#4
LurpyGeek Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UT Posts: 1,436	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? Actually... He has the Stevens 22-410 pictured above, and he also has a Savage that is almost identical (Savage bought Stevens shortly after the one pictured above was made). The Savage (a model 24 I think) is chambered in .22 magnum and .410 shotgun. It's in pretty rough shape as was the Stevens, but he plans to fix it up similarly in the spring and sell it. __________________ Knowing is half the battle... Of course, the other half is violence.

01-09-2010, 02:59 PM	#5
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,755	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? Excellent product.

01-11-2010, 09:50 PM	#6
belercous Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 195	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? I've had good luck with it on a Mossberg 20 ga. 185-D shotgun. Just make sure to neutralize it with water. I've had better luck (more even coloring) with Brownell's Oxpho-Blue, and I think it is a better product, but Blue Wonder isn't bad. Oxpho-Blue is great for touch-up as it doesn't require the metal to be as clean. It works thru light oil & even light rust where that will leave splotches with Blue Wonder.

01-12-2010, 09:26 AM	#7
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,628	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? I've used it a couple of times but ended up redoing them anyway with a different product. Tried it on a winchester 12 and it never got all that dark. Then also tried it on a slide of a CZ83 and it was really uneven no matter how I applied it. Some people swear by it but for me it was a waist of money. __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

01-12-2010, 11:11 AM	#8
rclinton Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 6	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? I have just finished my first any only attempt at reblueing a firearm. I am very impressed with the finished results I have gotten on my 1963 Sears & Roebuck model 45 30-30 (Marlin 336c) Some tips that worked well for me. I completly disassembled the rifle and blued individual parts. Cleaning/sanding/buffing you your desire, but prep as always is critical. I utilized an electric heat gun vice a propane torch for heat. The key for me was the paalication of heat. If the part is heated (arm/hot to the touch) the application of the blueing goes on better and much darker. Work on sections of the gun at a time, the blueing will blend well. Make sure you use both the neuturalizing oil and the follow up oil tretment for best results. I applied between 2 to 4 coats of the blueing process and like I stated the results were very good. The system is easy to work with and if you make a mistake you can just remove the blueing and start over.

01-12-2010, 01:45 PM	#9
bntyhntr6975 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Wichita, Ks. Posts: 270	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? LurpyGeek: My grandfather had (he died several yrs ago) that same Stevens. (My grandmother still has all of his firearms, they will soon be mine.) I never got to shoot it, but thats the one he would always brag about when it came to accuracy. It had bee one of his brother's until he died probly 20 yrs ago, then it went to my grandfather. I was told that my great uncle had bought it new. That little gun put ALOT of squirrels and rabbits on the table. Very nice, thank you. __________________ There is a fine line between paranoid and prepared.

12-09-2010, 05:58 PM	#11
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 923	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? I picked up a Birchwood-Casey blue kit the other day for one of my beat-up/scratched-up pistols. Some of the scratches are pretty deep, I'm thinking about breaking out the Dremel, but they're on curved surfaces so I'm unsure of whether the scratches will come off without squaring the round stuff. What's the best way to remove scratches without messing up the frame?? Steel Wool ain't doing much... __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

12-09-2010, 07:46 PM	#12
grcsat V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: far,far,North Posts: 377	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? Big Shrek I'm a little old fashion when it comes to that. But I use only medium soft honing stones , both ridged flat and thin flexable. Takes a fair amount of time and a little practice.But once you get the hang of it , you'l never use anything else. Also, no rounded edges unless you want them there. It is messey because you use a oil lub. The reults can be amazing when your finished. No rounded corners like the poor quality buff jobs. Forgot . Never had any luck with the Casy Blue kits. If you were a little closer I'd give you a bottle of Dicropan-IM. Works real good on hand guns but a pain for rifles. Last edited by grcsat; 12-09-2010 at 08:10 PM..

12-11-2010, 07:35 AM	#13
gunplumber V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 370	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? Several years ago Bob was in my area and called to see if he could come demonstrate his products. Always on the lookout for a better mousetrap I invited him out. We took a old bbl and polished it out and he reblued it with his product. I was amazed how well it worked but we did have to apply it more than once to get it real dark. For a person who likes to do his own stuff and who doesn't have hot tanks and is not bothered by production time it's the best product I have seen. I didn't purchase it due to the time involved getting the proper color and time involved is THE big factor here. On the other hand, I cleaned a bbl and then he used his bore cleaner on it and I wanted to run backards......I have used his bore cleaner ever since and I'm about out so it's time to reorder. Last edited by gunplumber; 12-11-2010 at 07:36 AM..

12-11-2010, 07:46 AM	#14
gunplumber V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 370	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? I use small flat files wrapped with paper to sand the flats out and a fat gum erasure with paper to sand rounded corners. Rubber heater hose or vac line hoses work on concave surfaces. Demel tools will get you into trouble without lots of care.

12-11-2010, 08:30 AM	#15
grcsat V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: far,far,North Posts: 377	Re: Blue Wonder gun Blue - anyone tried it? I can honestly say I learned my lesson with dremel tools. They are great for all sorts of jobs ,But polishing handguns is not one of them. So If you must use them ,be really carefull or better yet try not to use them at all.