I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets - The Firearms Forum

dksac2 · 02-11-2011, 08:23 PM

Well I went out and shot today. It was in the 20's and it was so cold, the cartridges had to be pried out of the chamber, it was a real pain. It warmed up into the 30's and the gun started extracting.
The shooting bench had snow higher than the seat, so I had to clear the snow off and was shooting with my legs srreight out under the table. Add about a 15 mph cross wind and it was a really lousy day to shoot, but no way was I not going to shoot this gun.

For all the cold, snow and wind, it did pretty good.
After shooting I took it into the shop and lapped the bore with at least 10 more patches with JB Bore Shine on them, the patches came out black, I still have not got to good steel, there's still fouling in the bore.
I spent 2 hours last night cleaning the bore with regular JB and JB Bore Shine, it was pretty badly fouled.

One neat thing about the bolt in this gun is that it has 2 firing pins, one at the top of the cartridge, one at the bottom. Wish they would still make them like that, it's bound to help the accuracy.

Anyway, I sitting here posting with a wet butt from sitting in the snow, here's the pics.
I was more than pleased and think there is still better accuracy to be had. I was shooting Wolf MT. All shots were 5 shot groups @ 50 yards.

John K

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accident · 02-12-2011, 08:23 PM

Good shootin' dksac2 for any kind of weather.You truly are a more dedicated shooter than I.(or crazy)Theres no way I would have gone shooting in that weather.My hats off to you sir! Joe

johnlives4christ · 02-12-2011, 10:19 PM

i concur, good shooting. especially for the weather conditions

would love to see pics of the gun

mr.t7024 · 02-13-2011, 05:57 AM

Impressive!

redwing carson · 02-13-2011, 06:13 AM

Sounds like your chamber is dirty as well. Living in Idaho shooting at minus 0 would be common. Here at 8,000' in Wyoming our temps are well below zero much of the winter. I never have a problem with cases sticking as long as the chamber is clean. Mixing anti-freeze with light oil takes care of most autoloaders at subzero.

RC

Zane71464 · 02-13-2011, 07:15 AM

Nothing wrong with that rilfe holding groups, great shooting!

woolleyworm · 02-13-2011, 09:12 AM

Beautiful groups !

pickenup · 02-13-2011, 11:45 AM

I want to see the groups you make when it warms up.

Nice shooting for such weather.

dksac2 · 02-13-2011, 12:04 PM

The chamber actually looks pretty good. At first I thought it may have a burr in the camber from being dry fired, but the chamber is perfect.

It's the ammo. I was shooting Wolf MT, it has a lot of lube on it that does not do well when it gets really cold.
Before it wamed up, I shot some Auto Match that extracted and ejected just fine.

It's just the lube on the Wolf Match that causes problems in the cold. Once it went from the low 20's to low 30's, the Wolf extracted just about every time.

I can't wait to see how it shoots when the temps are in the 70's. Have about 3 more months to wait for that. We have long winters here.

My Best, John K

02-11-2011, 08:23 PM	#1
dksac2 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 106	I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets Well I went out and shot today. It was in the 20's and it was so cold, the cartridges had to be pried out of the chamber, it was a real pain. It warmed up into the 30's and the gun started extracting. The shooting bench had snow higher than the seat, so I had to clear the snow off and was shooting with my legs srreight out under the table. Add about a 15 mph cross wind and it was a really lousy day to shoot, but no way was I not going to shoot this gun. For all the cold, snow and wind, it did pretty good. After shooting I took it into the shop and lapped the bore with at least 10 more patches with JB Bore Shine on them, the patches came out black, I still have not got to good steel, there's still fouling in the bore. I spent 2 hours last night cleaning the bore with regular JB and JB Bore Shine, it was pretty badly fouled. One neat thing about the bolt in this gun is that it has 2 firing pins, one at the top of the cartridge, one at the bottom. Wish they would still make them like that, it's bound to help the accuracy. Anyway, I sitting here posting with a wet butt from sitting in the snow, here's the pics. I was more than pleased and think there is still better accuracy to be had. I was shooting Wolf MT. All shots were 5 shot groups @ 50 yards. John K [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o18/Rifleman04 -->

02-12-2011, 08:23 PM	#2
accident V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: middle GA Posts: 364	Re: I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets Good shootin' dksac2 for any kind of weather.You truly are a more dedicated shooter than I.(or crazy)Theres no way I would have gone shooting in that weather.My hats off to you sir! Joe __________________ "The strongest reason for the people to retain the Right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." Thomas Jefferson

02-12-2011, 10:19 PM	#3
johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets i concur, good shooting. especially for the weather conditions would love to see pics of the gun

02-13-2011, 05:57 AM	#4
mr.t7024 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Near a brook & pond in Ma Posts: 734	Re: I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets Impressive!

02-13-2011, 06:13 AM	#5
redwing carson Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: western wyoming Posts: 734	Re: I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets Sounds like your chamber is dirty as well. Living in Idaho shooting at minus 0 would be common. Here at 8,000' in Wyoming our temps are well below zero much of the winter. I never have a problem with cases sticking as long as the chamber is clean. Mixing anti-freeze with light oil takes care of most autoloaders at subzero. RC

02-13-2011, 07:15 AM	#6
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,350	Re: I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets Nothing wrong with that rilfe holding groups, great shooting! __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

02-13-2011, 09:12 AM	#7
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,883	Re: I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets Beautiful groups ! __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." . Last edited by woolleyworm; 02-13-2011 at 10:20 AM..

02-13-2011, 11:45 AM	#8
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,837	Re: I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets I want to see the groups you make when it warms up. Nice shooting for such weather. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

02-13-2011, 12:04 PM	#9
dksac2 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 106	Re: I shot The Savage Model 19 Today, Targets The chamber actually looks pretty good. At first I thought it may have a burr in the camber from being dry fired, but the chamber is perfect. It's the ammo. I was shooting Wolf MT, it has a lot of lube on it that does not do well when it gets really cold. Before it wamed up, I shot some Auto Match that extracted and ejected just fine. It's just the lube on the Wolf Match that causes problems in the cold. Once it went from the low 20's to low 30's, the Wolf extracted just about every time. I can't wait to see how it shoots when the temps are in the 70's. Have about 3 more months to wait for that. We have long winters here. My Best, John K Last edited by dksac2; 02-13-2011 at 12:06 PM..