My New Sig P220

[wingspar]

Have not been very active on the forum for a while. I go in spurts. A few weeks ago, I rented a Glock 21, Sig P220 (both .45 ACP) and a Sig P229 in .40 to see if I enjoyed shooting these calibers. I did. The next few weeks I went thru the .40 vs .45 thing, and decided to grab the first gun that came along. That went to the Sig P220. I liked it better than the Glock 21. As for the .40, I’ll probably add one to my collection at some point in time. There just seems to be more love for the .45 than the .40, but honestly, both were fun to shoot. As for ballistics, I decided not to get too hung up on the numbers. Both excellent cartridges.

I decided on a CPO P220. CPO = Certified Pre-Owned. CPO guns are gone thru at the factory, and come with a one year factory warranty. Weather here sucks big time, but I do hope to get out and shoot it before the end of the week. She’s all cleaned up, properly lubed, and ready for the range. I have shot lots of photos of it tho.

[Helix_FR]

Good gun. In fact the 220 is one of the few DA .45's that I enjoyed shooting. The range I work at has one on the rental wall it probably has 50,000 rounds through it and all that is done is clean out the barrel couple times a week. 1 broken trigger bar after 8 years of service and 50,000 rounds and its still rock'n.

[woolleyworm]

I think you made one helluva choice !! That 220 is one sweeeeet gun! That is the one of three of my guns that I will never part with. Nice pics too; I never have been much of a photographer, so it's nice to see what you, Donny, Pony and a few others can do behind the shutter. Makes the 220 look even purtier !

I added the wrap around Hogue grips on mine; made it even easier to control and return to POA. They're about $20-25 and well worth it.

[American Leader]

Like it, sweet grooves!

[woolleyworm]

Ok, so I gotta be a PITA about one thing....

just why in the heck spend all that money and take all the time with fine photos and then shoot them with PMC ammo ?????



Just had to throw that out there Gary

Some nice GoldDots or even better - handloads with a full box behind woulda looked even sweeter ! PMC is kinda like putting Gary Busey beside Liv Tyler, just aint right

Enjoy that 220 and can't wait for the range photos !!

[Double D]

You chose the sig over the glock? Great choice. I totally agree..

[wingspar]

Originally Posted by Helix_FR

1 broken trigger bar after 8 years of service and 50,000 rounds and its still rock'n.

That’s impressive. I’ve seen a lot of negative posts about Sigs current quality control, but I chose to ignore those. The P220 must be about the most loved Sig made. According to the serial number, this one was made in 2001.

Originally Posted by woolleyworm

Ok, so I gotta be a PITA about one thing....

just why in the heck spend all that money and take all the time with fine photos and then shoot them with PMC ammo ?????

Enjoy that 220 and can't wait for the range photos !!

I’ve shot a lot of PMC in my Mini-14 cause it was cheap, and I’ve been looking for PMC in 9mm for a long time, but couldn’t find any till after I ordered a case of Winchester Ranger. When I rented a couple of .45's a few weeks ago, PMC was the ammo they had. When I bought this stuff, it was the cheapest I could find by quite a bit. PMC is good ammo. I’m not picky when it comes to range ammo. SD ammo will be Gold Dots tho.

Originally Posted by Double D

You chose the sig over the glock? Great choice. I totally agree..

When I first held a P220, I did not like the grip. Then I found out it was single stack, so when I had the chance to rent, I rented a Glock 21 and the P220. It didn’t take long to realize I liked the Sig more. The G21 looked and sort of felt big and blocky. The P220 was slim and sleek in comparison. Now, I don’t know where my head was when I thought the P220 grip didn’t feel good.

Nothing against Glocks. I do own a G17, and have about 1500 rounds thru it.

[woolleyworm]

Originally Posted by wingspar

I’ve shot a lot of PMC in my Mini-14 cause it was cheap, and I’ve been looking for PMC in 9mm for a long time, but couldn’t find any till after I ordered a case of Winchester Ranger. When I rented a couple of .45's a few weeks ago, PMC was the ammo they had. When I bought this stuff, it was the cheapest I could find by quite a bit. PMC is good ammo. I’m not picky when it comes to range ammo. SD ammo will be Gold Dots tho.

I've shot a few boxes of PMC myself and it's ok stuff, much better than Wolf or Tula. I prefer MagTech when it comes to cheaper factory plinking ammo. Magtech brass has been very good quality for reloading IMO. Bad thing about the last couple of years, selection is starting to get better though and I've seen much more available in the last 3-4 months.

[wingspar]

Originally Posted by woolleyworm

I've shot a few boxes of PMC myself and it's ok stuff, much better than Wolf or Tula. I prefer MagTech when it comes to cheaper factory plinking ammo. Magtech brass has been very good quality for reloading IMO. Bad thing about the last couple of years, selection is starting to get better though and I've seen much more available in the last 3-4 months.

There is a lot of good range ammo out there today. As long as it's good brass or Blazer Aluminum, and the price is right, I’ll shoot it. I probably won’t put any steel thru the Sig tho.

When I rented the guns at the range, I saw the guy take a box of MagTech off the shelf, then he put it back, and gave me a box of PMC for $18. Good price too, and every single round went bang.

The PMC you see in my photo was priced right, and while it might not be the best out there, it is decent range ammo. .45 isn’t cheap. Wolf Gold is brass cased and boxer primed. Have you tried that stuff?

[gdmoody]

Beautiful gun you have there, wingspar. I have never been disappointed with a Sig Sauer. You know, you gotta love Sigs!

[wingspar]

Originally Posted by gdmoody

Beautiful gun you have there, wingspar. I have never been disappointed with a Sig Sauer. You know, you gotta love Sigs!

Thank you. I own a Mosquito, but this is my first centerfire Sig. I’ve got my eye on either the P226 or P229 in .40 for sometime down the road. I rented a P229 in .40 a few weeks ago, but I meant to rent a P226. Didn’t even realize my mistake till it was too late. I didn’t think I’d like the P229 being the smaller gun, but I did like it.

[jpmccr]

Great looking gun. I have one (DOB 1995) as well and it is a great shooter. Even my wife likes it . . . .

[hogger129]

Cool gun dude. I have no experience with Sigs yet.

[wingspar]

Originally Posted by woolleyworm

I prefer MagTech when it comes to cheaper factory plinking ammo.

The PMC did seem kind of dirty, but this was my first range trip with my very own .45. I just ordered some more ammo, and PMC and MagTech were the same price, so I got some MagTech to try it out. The gun will be clean before I shoot the MagTech, so I can do a visual comparison on the dirt. If memory serves me right, MagTech is made in Brazil.

Originally Posted by jpmccr

Great looking gun. I have one (DOB 1995) as well and it is a great shooter. Even my wife likes it . . . .

Thanks. I was hoping to find a late 1990's model, but this one came along first, and I couldn’t see any reason to take more time looking for an earlier model. My other half will shoot it, but I think she prefers 9mm better. Personally, I find it hard to tell them apart when shooting. I wonder if that might be due to the heavier P220 vs the Lighter Glock 17?

Originally Posted by hogger129

Cool gun dude. I have no experience with Sigs yet.

Thanks. All of my experience, which is quite limited, is with Glocks and Sigs. Sig makes a great gun, and I’ll probably pick up a .40 some day, and it may very well be the Sig P226 or the P229, but before I make the choice, I’ll rent them both side by side along with a Glock 22 or 23. I have the feeling I’ll go with a Sig in .40. I have shot a P229 in .40, and liked it. No experience with Glock in .40, but I’d like to shoot one first. When I bought the P220, I shot it alongside a Glock 21, and the Sig won hands down.

[Country101]

I have a 226DAK in a .40. I love it. I bought one for myself after shooting one and carrying it at work. It's a double action only, but despite that, I really like it. I like SA more, but it's a sweet gun. I may have the trigger lightened a bit, if that's possible on my personal gun.

[wingspar]

I looked at a P220 DAK once, and I don’t think I would like it. The trigger pull on my P220 SA is sweet.

[J.D. Bass]

That sig is sweet but I agree with Wollyworm about the PMC ammo.

[wingspar]

The only PMC I’ve ever shot is thru my Mini-14, and it seems dirty, but not anything unusual. Below is a photo of my P220 after 85 rounds of PMC. I thought the gun was very dirty. Far more than I expected, and lead fouling seemed to be a lot in the barrel. It’s all clean now, and I have some MagTech that will be delivered on Tuesday, so I’ll be able to do a direct comparison between the two brands of ammo as far as “dirty” goes.

[wingspar]

For woolleyworm, J.D. Bass and all others this may be of interest to. I put 80 rounds of MagTech thru my P220 yesterday. I took a couple of photos of the gun after I shot 85 rounds of PMC Bronze, and I took a couple of photos this morning after using the MagTech ammo. The results are in the photos below. I will let the photos speak for themselves. I just blended the two photos into one photo rather than posing a bucket full of photos. The one thing you can not see in the photos is what the inside of the barrel looks like. After shooting the PMC Bronze, the barrel was full of specks of dirt. After shooting the MagTech, the inside of the barrel looks clean.

This is the first time I’ve ever shot MagTech in any caliber, and I like the stuff.

[woolleyworm]

another + for Magtech; now what did it do down range?? Nice pics too, I am quite inept when it comes to doing any effects with pics; that blending job is nice!

[wingspar]

Thanks. I use studio strobes and photo background paper, so getting the same exposure, even tho the photos were taken days apart made them easy to merge.

I’m sure the gun can do much better downrange than I am capable of doing, but I am more accurate with the P220 than I am with my Glock 17. The SA trigger on the P220 is very nice.