Bill how about this knife? - The Firearms Forum

OneFatCat · 04-27-2011, 05:58 PM

Bill how about this knife does it look like it might be of the period or what do you think?

Thank you
OFC
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Bill DeShivs · 04-27-2011, 08:04 PM

No,no,no,no,no!
Stop looking at knives that look like they should be in a cartoon!
Do some research. Either that, or I'm going to start making some "antique" knives to sell you! I could use the money.

OneFatCat · 04-28-2011, 06:09 AM

Haaaaaaaa ...well Id rather buy one from you anyway !!!

OFC

Hawg · 04-28-2011, 10:26 AM

Already tried to sell him one of mine. That didn't work either.

How about one of these?

OneFatCat · 04-28-2011, 10:59 AM

Hawg I appreciate it ole buddy but I really would like to find an old Bowie ....

OFC

Hawg · 04-28-2011, 11:04 AM

Hmmm, you could make a kind of a Bowie out of one of these.

stede · 04-28-2011, 06:32 PM

Hawg, any markings on that bayonet closest to the camera in the first pic?

Hawg · 04-28-2011, 06:38 PM

The only markings on it is a crown over a W on the ricasso. It's for a .69 musketoon.

OneFatCat · 04-28-2011, 09:24 PM

Hawg either of those long knives have a scabbard?

BullShoot · 04-28-2011, 11:35 PM

OFC, I was just looking at the online catalog for the next Rock Island auction and, guess what?, there are some Civil War era bowie knives being offered in an upcoming auction. Check them out at http://www.rockislandauction.com
I haven't been through the whole catalog yet but lots 93 through 98 seem to be right up your alley. Also lots 439, 1079, 1131 and 3228. You might want to take Bill DeShivs along with you. I'll bet he will have an opinion on each of them. Personally, if it were me... I'd listen to him.

BullShoot

Hawg · 04-29-2011, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneFatCat

Hawg either of those long knives have a scabbard?

Nope sure don't.

OneFatCat · 04-29-2011, 05:57 AM

Thanks a lot B.S. I appreciate the info ....and I have learned to listen to ole Bill which is why Ive not bought anything yet.

OFC

OneFatCat · 04-29-2011, 06:12 AM

B.S. is this an on line auction ?

OFC

BullShoot · 04-29-2011, 11:53 AM

On-line through Proxibid, OFC. It is an online catalog but the sales take place on-site (in their new quarters) and also over the telephone. It is a good auction house. Take a little time to look over their web site for the different ways they accept bids - you'll probably find one that works for you.

BullShoot

What did you think about the knives they're offering?

Bill DeShivs · 04-29-2011, 01:41 PM

OFC,
Before spending large amounts of money on a knife (especially on the Internet), you should visit shows and handle as many older pieces as you can. Buy books- "Steel Canvas" by R.W. Wilson has good pictures of many older knives. Levine's books are also good to have. Stay away from "Confederate" knives, as there are way more fakes than originals. Not following my advice will almost guarantee you will be taken. As I said before-bowie knives are not my area of expertise but I have learned quite a bit about them. Be wary of any dealer or auctioneer. Very recently, I advised an Ebay seller that his "1800s English folding bowie" was actually made in India in the 1960s. He cursed me and told me his knife had been appraised by Greg Martin (auctioneer) at $2000! I offered to sell him another one for $200, but never heard back from him!

OneFatCat · 04-29-2011, 02:02 PM

Thank you BS ...I did not see one that just really got my attention but I do like some of the pistols they have ...Thank you Bill and I will take your advice ..you know the old saying "trick me once shame on you trick me twice shame on me" ...I will consult with you before I buy ..that is if you dont mind.

OFC

stede · 05-01-2011, 04:03 PM

The only markings on it is a crown over a W on the ricasso. It's for a .69 musketoon.
Belgian made, then- for any of a number of export muskets. Nice shape, too.

Hawg · 05-01-2011, 04:18 PM

The button and spring were replaced and the blade has some minor pitting. The whole thing was cleaned by electrolysis before I got it.

04-27-2011, 05:58 PM	#1
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04-27-2011, 08:04 PM	#2
Bill DeShivs Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Contributor Posts: 1,469	Re: Bill how about this knife? No,no,no,no,no! Stop looking at knives that look like they should be in a cartoon! Do some research. Either that, or I'm going to start making some "antique" knives to sell you! I could use the money. __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com Last edited by Bill DeShivs; 04-27-2011 at 10:36 PM..

04-28-2011, 06:09 AM	#3
OneFatCat V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Frederick Maryland Posts: 222	Re: Bill how about this knife? Haaaaaaaa ...well Id rather buy one from you anyway !!! OFC __________________ *Why Johnny Ringo you look like somebody just walked over your grave*

04-28-2011, 10:26 AM	#4
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,557	Re: Bill how about this knife? Already tried to sell him one of mine. That didn't work either. How about one of these? Last edited by Hawg; 04-28-2011 at 10:36 AM..

04-28-2011, 10:59 AM	#5
OneFatCat V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Frederick Maryland Posts: 222	Re: Bill how about this knife? Hawg I appreciate it ole buddy but I really would like to find an old Bowie .... OFC __________________ *Why Johnny Ringo you look like somebody just walked over your grave*

04-28-2011, 11:04 AM	#6
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,557	Re: Bill how about this knife? Hmmm, you could make a kind of a Bowie out of one of these.

04-28-2011, 06:32 PM	#7
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 92	Re: Bill how about this knife? Hawg, any markings on that bayonet closest to the camera in the first pic?

04-28-2011, 06:38 PM	#8
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,557	Re: Bill how about this knife? The only markings on it is a crown over a W on the ricasso. It's for a .69 musketoon.

04-28-2011, 09:24 PM	#9
OneFatCat V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Frederick Maryland Posts: 222	Re: Bill how about this knife? Hawg either of those long knives have a scabbard? __________________ *Why Johnny Ringo you look like somebody just walked over your grave*

04-28-2011, 11:35 PM	#10
BullShoot V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: missouri ozarks Contributor Posts: 445	Re: Bill how about this knife? OFC, I was just looking at the online catalog for the next Rock Island auction and, guess what?, there are some Civil War era bowie knives being offered in an upcoming auction. Check them out at http://www.rockislandauction.com I haven't been through the whole catalog yet but lots 93 through 98 seem to be right up your alley. Also lots 439, 1079, 1131 and 3228. You might want to take Bill DeShivs along with you. I'll bet he will have an opinion on each of them. Personally, if it were me... I'd listen to him. BullShoot

04-29-2011, 05:57 AM	#12
OneFatCat V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Frederick Maryland Posts: 222	Re: Bill how about this knife? Thanks a lot B.S. I appreciate the info ....and I have learned to listen to ole Bill which is why Ive not bought anything yet. OFC __________________ *Why Johnny Ringo you look like somebody just walked over your grave*

04-29-2011, 06:12 AM	#13
OneFatCat V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Frederick Maryland Posts: 222	Re: Bill how about this knife? B.S. is this an on line auction ? OFC __________________ *Why Johnny Ringo you look like somebody just walked over your grave*

04-29-2011, 11:53 AM	#14
BullShoot V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: missouri ozarks Contributor Posts: 445	Re: Bill how about this knife? On-line through Proxibid, OFC. It is an online catalog but the sales take place on-site (in their new quarters) and also over the telephone. It is a good auction house. Take a little time to look over their web site for the different ways they accept bids - you'll probably find one that works for you. BullShoot What did you think about the knives they're offering?

04-29-2011, 01:41 PM	#15
Bill DeShivs Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Contributor Posts: 1,469	Re: Bill how about this knife? OFC, Before spending large amounts of money on a knife (especially on the Internet), you should visit shows and handle as many older pieces as you can. Buy books- "Steel Canvas" by R.W. Wilson has good pictures of many older knives. Levine's books are also good to have. Stay away from "Confederate" knives, as there are way more fakes than originals. Not following my advice will almost guarantee you will be taken. As I said before-bowie knives are not my area of expertise but I have learned quite a bit about them. Be wary of any dealer or auctioneer. Very recently, I advised an Ebay seller that his "1800s English folding bowie" was actually made in India in the 1960s. He cursed me and told me his knife had been appraised by Greg Martin (auctioneer) at $2000! I offered to sell him another one for $200, but never heard back from him! __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com

04-29-2011, 02:02 PM	#16
OneFatCat V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Frederick Maryland Posts: 222	Re: Bill how about this knife? Thank you BS ...I did not see one that just really got my attention but I do like some of the pistols they have ...Thank you Bill and I will take your advice ..you know the old saying "trick me once shame on you trick me twice shame on me" ...I will consult with you before I buy ..that is if you dont mind. OFC __________________ *Why Johnny Ringo you look like somebody just walked over your grave*

05-01-2011, 04:03 PM	#17
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 92	Re: Bill how about this knife? The only markings on it is a crown over a W on the ricasso. It's for a .69 musketoon. Belgian made, then- for any of a number of export muskets. Nice shape, too.

05-01-2011, 04:18 PM	#18
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,557	Re: Bill how about this knife? The button and spring were replaced and the blade has some minor pitting. The whole thing was cleaned by electrolysis before I got it.