Citadel 1911 - The Firearms Forum

roadkingsteve · 01-05-2011, 08:43 PM

Anyone here know anything about a Citadel 1911 .45 acp? I think they are imported by Legacy Sports. Any links to Charles Daley or Para? Maybe RIA?

jacksonco · 01-05-2011, 09:33 PM

Citadel is manufactured by Armscor of the Phillipenes. Charles Daly is no longer in business. Armscor did produce for CD but the contract was not renewed by Armscor. Armscor still produces the Rock Island Armory brands. I have a Citadel 3 1/2 compact tactical model and it has been flawless for me. I have put 230 and 200 grain Hornady HP-XTP and Laser Cast 200 grain SWC through it with out a hitch.

And Legacy Sports International is the importer of the Citadel brand.

gdmoody · 01-05-2011, 10:21 PM

I also have a Citadel compact. Well, actually my son shot it a while back and took it away from me to use as his duty weapon (small town cop). I found it to be a very accurate pistol.

Double D · 01-06-2011, 07:55 AM

George, you got robbed! Call the police! Oh yea, he is the police.......

glocknut · 01-06-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

George, you got robbed! Call the police! Oh yea, he is the police.......

Maybe it was a court ordered removal? Ya never know...he might have been caught with a goat or sheep or something...

mike
gn

hogger129 · 01-06-2011, 03:37 PM

Citadel is made by Armscor and so is Rock Island. Good guns if you ask me.

roadkingsteve · 01-06-2011, 05:47 PM

Thanks, I researched it and came up with the same. I didn't know anyone who had actually owned and fired one. This one is a full size 1911 in .45 and looks like new but only comes with one mag. and no box or manual. The price was right so I brought it home today. I'll have a range report soon.
Steve

Double D · 01-06-2011, 06:23 PM

Steve, there has been alot of discussion on this gun. I shot one and I really liked it. Especially the trigger.

roadkingsteve · 01-06-2011, 07:53 PM

I'll see if I can post some pix. Back yard report is: It fires and the slide stays back on the last round. Range report this weekend.

gdmoody · 01-07-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by glocknut

Maybe it was a court ordered removal? Ya never know...he might have been caught with a goat or sheep or something...

mike
gn

Mike, you been sneeking around watching me??

The trigger on the one that I get to shoot every once in a while is really nice. I have not weighed the trigger pull but I can tell you not to breath on it very hard.

roadking, how is the trigger on yours?

roadkingsteve · 01-07-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gdmoody

Mike, you been sneeking around watching me??

The trigger on the one that I get to shoot every once in a while is really nice. I have not weighed the trigger pull but I can tell you not to breath on it very hard.

roadking, how is the trigger on yours?

So far, all I know is from the back yard and it will fire. I will sit at the range tomorrow and let you know.

noslolo · 01-10-2011, 02:43 AM

I'm looking forward to a range report!

mrstorms · 05-23-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkingsteve

I'll see if I can post some pix. Back yard report is: It fires and the slide stays back on the last round. Range report this weekend.

dude i put the same grip on mine. lol.

Bigbill · 06-10-2011, 01:06 PM

Give us the range report plus the distance, the group size, amount of flyers if any and what ammo your using too ok?
Note how tight the front frame rails are so you can tell when they wear or loosen up. I can't find any info on what causes this nor hwo many rounds it takes before the wear happens.

I'm not sure if this matters to anyone but the frame is an investment casted frame but they say there slide is forged. I believe the investment casted frame from the phillipines is made from 4140 steel which isn't too shabby. I believe there are a lot of 1911 manufacturers who use this investment casted frame. Does it really matter?

Now all the 1911's from springfield armory and colt are forged steel frames and slides. The chinese norinco 1911 are forged frames and slides also.

I'm not sure about the high dollar 1911's but i would think there forged at that higher cost but i'm not sure.

With that said i can't say if forged steel is better than the casted steel or which one will last longer in the end. I haven't life tested any of them yet. My biggest challange now is seeing if they function or not. I just lube them with moly and forget about it and shoot the snots out of them. I am up to testing my new AO for wear now. I want to see if and when the front frame rails get loose from wear. Bill

BTW; I have been eyeing the Citadel 1911 5'' barrel in 45acp in nickel finish.

Casey · 06-10-2011, 01:27 PM

Gotta love them 1911's! I want to try some SWC in my Remmy but I cant find any around here! They used to be everywhere but since the price of the FF licenses went up a few years ago most places quit selling guns, especially handguns. The only places I can find reloading supplies or SWC in any caliber is either Cabelas or Gander Mountain and GM cut waaay back on reloading stuff.

hogger129 · 06-10-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey

Gotta love them 1911's! I want to try some SWC in my Remmy but I cant find any around here! They used to be everywhere but since the price of the FF licenses went up a few years ago most places quit selling guns, especially handguns. The only places I can find reloading supplies or SWC in any caliber is either Cabelas or Gander Mountain and GM cut waaay back on reloading stuff.

Casey, in November they have a gun show in Jefferson. It's like at some horse stable place. Don't remember exactlyw here. They have it there every year and it's a public show. There's a guy there who sells 200gr semi wadcutters that he loads himself. I liked them in my guns.

Can't remember the guy's name but he's always at that show every year.

old doc · 06-10-2011, 10:14 PM

I have both the compact and full size. Trigger is about 5# on the full size and lighter on the compact. Both are as accurate as any 1911 I have fired and eat everything I feed them. They each have 500 rounds through them including hollow points and 200 rounds of Tula fmj. I would suggest that the ACT mags they come with are used just of the range. I use Kimpro Tac Mags, Kimber blued mags and 1 Wilson Combat without problems. Citadels are more than worth the money.

Bill

01-05-2011, 08:43 PM	#1
roadkingsteve V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Coast of Mississippi Posts: 84	Citadel 1911 Anyone here know anything about a Citadel 1911 .45 acp? I think they are imported by Legacy Sports. Any links to Charles Daley or Para? Maybe RIA? -->

01-05-2011, 09:33 PM	#2
jacksonco Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jackson County West Virginia Posts: 2,237	Re: Citadel 1911 Citadel is manufactured by Armscor of the Phillipenes. Charles Daly is no longer in business. Armscor did produce for CD but the contract was not renewed by Armscor. Armscor still produces the Rock Island Armory brands. I have a Citadel 3 1/2 compact tactical model and it has been flawless for me. I have put 230 and 200 grain Hornady HP-XTP and Laser Cast 200 grain SWC through it with out a hitch. And Legacy Sports International is the importer of the Citadel brand. Last edited by jacksonco; 01-05-2011 at 09:34 PM..

01-05-2011, 10:21 PM	#3
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,306	Re: Citadel 1911 I also have a Citadel compact. Well, actually my son shot it a while back and took it away from me to use as his duty weapon (small town cop). I found it to be a very accurate pistol. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

01-06-2011, 07:55 AM	#4
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,049	Re: Citadel 1911 George, you got robbed! Call the police! Oh yea, he is the police....... __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

01-06-2011, 03:37 PM	#6
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: Citadel 1911 Citadel is made by Armscor and so is Rock Island. Good guns if you ask me. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

01-06-2011, 05:47 PM	#7
roadkingsteve V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Coast of Mississippi Posts: 84	Re: Citadel 1911 Thanks, I researched it and came up with the same. I didn't know anyone who had actually owned and fired one. This one is a full size 1911 in .45 and looks like new but only comes with one mag. and no box or manual. The price was right so I brought it home today. I'll have a range report soon. Steve

01-06-2011, 06:23 PM	#8
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,049	Re: Citadel 1911 Steve, there has been alot of discussion on this gun. I shot one and I really liked it. Especially the trigger. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

01-06-2011, 07:53 PM	#9
roadkingsteve V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Coast of Mississippi Posts: 84	Re: Citadel 1911 I'll see if I can post some pix. Back yard report is: It fires and the slide stays back on the last round. Range report this weekend. Attached Images

01-10-2011, 02:43 AM	#12
noslolo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 1,558	Re: Citadel 1911 I'm looking forward to a range report! __________________ I'm a heck of a "obesito illegitimo"

06-10-2011, 01:06 PM	#14
Bigbill V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Northeast(ct) Posts: 216	Re: Citadel 1911 Give us the range report plus the distance, the group size, amount of flyers if any and what ammo your using too ok? Note how tight the front frame rails are so you can tell when they wear or loosen up. I can't find any info on what causes this nor hwo many rounds it takes before the wear happens. I'm not sure if this matters to anyone but the frame is an investment casted frame but they say there slide is forged. I believe the investment casted frame from the phillipines is made from 4140 steel which isn't too shabby. I believe there are a lot of 1911 manufacturers who use this investment casted frame. Does it really matter? Now all the 1911's from springfield armory and colt are forged steel frames and slides. The chinese norinco 1911 are forged frames and slides also. I'm not sure about the high dollar 1911's but i would think there forged at that higher cost but i'm not sure. With that said i can't say if forged steel is better than the casted steel or which one will last longer in the end. I haven't life tested any of them yet. My biggest challange now is seeing if they function or not. I just lube them with moly and forget about it and shoot the snots out of them. I am up to testing my new AO for wear now. I want to see if and when the front frame rails get loose from wear. Bill BTW; I have been eyeing the Citadel 1911 5'' barrel in 45acp in nickel finish. Last edited by Bigbill; 06-10-2011 at 01:12 PM..

06-10-2011, 01:27 PM	#15
Casey V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 68	Re: Citadel 1911 Gotta love them 1911's! I want to try some SWC in my Remmy but I cant find any around here! They used to be everywhere but since the price of the FF licenses went up a few years ago most places quit selling guns, especially handguns. The only places I can find reloading supplies or SWC in any caliber is either Cabelas or Gander Mountain and GM cut waaay back on reloading stuff.

06-10-2011, 10:14 PM	#17
old doc Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: south dakota Posts: 2	Re: Citadel 1911 I have both the compact and full size. Trigger is about 5# on the full size and lighter on the compact. Both are as accurate as any 1911 I have fired and eat everything I feed them. They each have 500 rounds through them including hollow points and 200 rounds of Tula fmj. I would suggest that the ACT mags they come with are used just of the range. I use Kimpro Tac Mags, Kimber blued mags and 1 Wilson Combat without problems. Citadels are more than worth the money. Bill