Ruger 10/22 Short Barrels - The Firearms Forum

CountryGunsmith · 02-23-2003, 10:54 PM

Mesen
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Does this barrel require any special registration I know putting on a gun would require some kind of registration
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The barrel in and of itself does not require any registration, as it is not a "firearm." Installing that barrel on a Ruger 10/22 creates a "short-barrelled rifle," which is an NFA classification and requires a $200 tax stamp, approval from ATF, yada yada.

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(2/1/02 11:58:00 am)
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Doc`s right and that barrel appears to be threaded to accept a suppressor....."check your states laws before installing"
More like... "ALL NFA RULES APPLY!"

***EDITED FOR A SNIDE COMMENT***

If you have a 10/22 in the house, you better not have this barrel around, lest you like the word... PUMPED"

Edited by: LIKTOSHOOT at: 2/1/02 12:00:34 pm

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With the plethora of 10/22 take-off barrels available for next to nothing looks like someone could do ok shortening and threading them or would the production of the barrel fall under a different set of rules
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Nope. The barrel itself is meaningless. It might as well be a piece of angle-iron as far at ATF is concerned UNTIL you install it on a receiver. And, like LTS said, the mere possession of the barrel AND a rifle the barrel will fit on MIGHT be a problem...

Now, there was a landmark ruling that went against ATF in favor of Thompson Center, where the court ruled that possession of a shoulder stock for a Contender was not illegal even if you also possessed barrels less than 16" long PROVIDED THAT you also had a barrel 16" long or longer. The court held that since there is a legal combination there, it was OK. That would not hold true for the 10/22 though, I merely raise the point for clarification.

The market for these barrels would be the Class 2 Manufacturer.
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02-23-2003, 10:54 PM	#1
CountryGunsmith Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deep Piney Woods of East Texas Posts: 5,116	Ruger 10/22 Short Barrels Mesen V.I.P. Member Posts: 436 (2/1/02 11:31:05 am) Reply \| Edit \| Del All Wouldn't this take a Class 3? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does this barrel require any special registration I know putting on a gun would require some kind of registration cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1800812146 IF YOU VALUE YOUR FREEDOM, THANK A VET! AntiqueDr Senior Chief Moderator Staff Posts: 1931 (2/1/02 11:36:48 am) Reply \| Edit \| Del ezSupporter Re: Wouldn't this take a Class 3? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The barrel in and of itself does not require any registration, as it is not a "firearm." Installing that barrel on a Ruger 10/22 creates a "short-barrelled rifle," which is an NFA classification and requires a $200 tax stamp, approval from ATF, yada yada. We Buy Guns! 1 - 100, Antique or Modern! www.apaxenterprises.com LIKTOSHOOT Senior Chief Moderator Staff Posts: 3602 (2/1/02 11:58:00 am) Reply \| Edit \| Del Re: Wouldn't this take a Class 3? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doc`s right and that barrel appears to be threaded to accept a suppressor....."check your states laws before installing" More like... "ALL NFA RULES APPLY!" *EDITED FOR A SNIDE COMMENT* If you have a 10/22 in the house, you better not have this barrel around, lest you like the word... PUMPED" Edited by: LIKTOSHOOT at: 2/1/02 12:00:34 pm Mesen V.I.P. Member Posts: 437 (2/1/02 12:02:41 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del Re: Wouldn't this take a Class 3? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With the plethora of 10/22 take-off barrels available for next to nothing looks like someone could do ok shortening and threading them or would the production of the barrel fall under a different set of rules IF YOU VALUE YOUR FREEDOM, THANK A VET! AntiqueDr Senior Chief Moderator Staff Posts: 1932 (2/1/02 12:09:39 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del ezSupporter Re: Wouldn't this take a Class 3? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope. The barrel itself is meaningless. It might as well be a piece of angle-iron as far at ATF is concerned UNTIL you install it on a receiver. And, like LTS said, the mere possession of the barrel AND a rifle the barrel will fit on MIGHT be a problem... Now, there was a landmark ruling that went against ATF in favor of Thompson Center, where the court ruled that possession of a shoulder stock for a Contender was not illegal even if you also possessed barrels less than 16" long PROVIDED THAT you also had a barrel 16" long or longer. The court held that since there is a legal combination there, it was OK. That would not hold true for the 10/22 though, I merely raise the point for clarification. The market for these barrels would be the Class 2 Manufacturer. We Buy Guns! 1 - 100, Antique or Modern! www.apaxenterprises.com -->