Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question - The Firearms Forum

perfdavid · 07-31-2011, 07:16 PM

I went to a gunshot today to sell or trade a couple of my guns.
I like Colts and ran across a SAA that is the blackpowder frame. Here is the question, it was reblued by Colt. Due to this fact they put a new serial number on it on the underside of the frame. SA92819.
When I got home, I took off the grips (which are not orig they look too good) and on the frame is stamped. 819 as well as carved into the grip. Am I to assume the 819 is the original serial number putting this gun made in 1874? I can post pics if need be, but I think this info is enough to answer my question simply.
It is in .45 cal barrel length 7 1/2 .

Thanks

perfdavid · 07-31-2011, 07:17 PM

Gun show*.

Alpo · 07-31-2011, 09:08 PM

I believe you got took.

I have never heard of Colt "re-serialing" a gun. For that matter, I've never heard of ANYBODY "re-serialing" a gun.

I have a pair of Italian "colt replicas", with the blackpowder frame. Their serial numbers are SA2xxxx.

perfdavid · 07-31-2011, 09:16 PM

I plan on calling the Colt archivist tomorrow and finding out.

Hawg · 08-01-2011, 07:23 AM

I never heard of Colt or anybody else except the BATFE putting a new serial number on a gun. If the reblue is recent Colt didn't do it.

perfdavid · 08-01-2011, 08:23 AM

Yup, SOB at the gun show. He will be back, I have seen him before there.
However, the gun I traded for I wanted $1000 for it firm. We did an even trade. It is a Colt Model P .45 made in 1989 according to Colt after I talked to them. It is in excellent condition so it was prob close to an even trade anyway.
And I already have a 1901 with letter and was wanting another from the 3rd gen and 2nd gen line, so I guess it is fine. I just hate lying sacks of...
Another lesson in life learned.

Jim K · 08-01-2011, 01:17 PM

I thought I had heard them all, but that is a new story. Assuming the gun is a Colt, it would have been made in 1979 (the reason the grips look good!).

Jim

perfdavid · 08-01-2011, 04:05 PM

Not sure where you get 1979 from. I talked to Colt directly, gave them the number and they told me 1989. Looks like I have to post pics now....sigh

perfdavid · 08-01-2011, 04:15 PM

RJay · 08-01-2011, 04:40 PM

The SA prefix is a dead give a way that it was manufactured after 1978. No preFix or suffix, made pre war II, SA suffix, made after WWII starting 1956 ( a few were made during and just after the war ). SA prefix, made after 1978.

perfdavid · 08-01-2011, 05:00 PM

Yeah, I got sold on this guys story. I f'd up. But I still needed a 3rd gen, and got it for an even trade. Live and learn

Alpo · 08-01-2011, 06:26 PM

Is that first one just a crappy picture, or are there no case colors on that gun?

Jim K · 08-01-2011, 07:49 PM

Hi, Perfdavid,

My typo on the date.

Jim

RJay · 08-01-2011, 08:26 PM

After you posted that Alpo I pulled up the picture again and really looked at it. You know, I think that gun has been buffed.

perfdavid · 08-01-2011, 08:46 PM

Well, I still got this....

sliclee · 08-28-2011, 07:00 PM

All my Colt SAA's have serial numbers on inside of grips, each side might not fit another gun.

07-31-2011, 07:16 PM	#1
perfdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 19	Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question I went to a gunshot today to sell or trade a couple of my guns. I like Colts and ran across a SAA that is the blackpowder frame. Here is the question, it was reblued by Colt. Due to this fact they put a new serial number on it on the underside of the frame. SA92819. When I got home, I took off the grips (which are not orig they look too good) and on the frame is stamped. 819 as well as carved into the grip. Am I to assume the 819 is the original serial number putting this gun made in 1874? I can post pics if need be, but I think this info is enough to answer my question simply. It is in .45 cal barrel length 7 1/2 . Thanks -->

07-31-2011, 07:17 PM	#2
perfdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 19	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question Gun show*.

07-31-2011, 09:08 PM	#3
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,662	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question I believe you got took. I have never heard of Colt "re-serialing" a gun. For that matter, I've never heard of ANYBODY "re-serialing" a gun. I have a pair of Italian "colt replicas", with the blackpowder frame. Their serial numbers are SA2xxxx. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

07-31-2011, 09:16 PM	#4
perfdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 19	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question I plan on calling the Colt archivist tomorrow and finding out. Last edited by perfdavid; 07-31-2011 at 09:46 PM..

08-01-2011, 07:23 AM	#5
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,559	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question I never heard of Colt or anybody else except the BATFE putting a new serial number on a gun. If the reblue is recent Colt didn't do it.

08-01-2011, 08:23 AM	#6
perfdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 19	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question Yup, SOB at the gun show. He will be back, I have seen him before there. However, the gun I traded for I wanted $1000 for it firm. We did an even trade. It is a Colt Model P .45 made in 1989 according to Colt after I talked to them. It is in excellent condition so it was prob close to an even trade anyway. And I already have a 1901 with letter and was wanting another from the 3rd gen and 2nd gen line, so I guess it is fine. I just hate lying sacks of... Another lesson in life learned.

08-01-2011, 01:17 PM	#7
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question I thought I had heard them all, but that is a new story. Assuming the gun is a Colt, it would have been made in 1979 (the reason the grips look good!). Jim

08-01-2011, 04:05 PM	#8
perfdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 19	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question Not sure where you get 1979 from. I talked to Colt directly, gave them the number and they told me 1989. Looks like I have to post pics now....sigh

08-01-2011, 04:15 PM	#9
perfdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 19	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question

08-01-2011, 04:40 PM	#10
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,487	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question The SA prefix is a dead give a way that it was manufactured after 1978. No preFix or suffix, made pre war II, SA suffix, made after WWII starting 1956 ( a few were made during and just after the war ). SA prefix, made after 1978. __________________ RonJames

08-01-2011, 05:00 PM	#11
perfdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 19	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question Yeah, I got sold on this guys story. I f'd up. But I still needed a 3rd gen, and got it for an even trade. Live and learn

08-01-2011, 06:26 PM	#12
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,662	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question Is that first one just a crappy picture, or are there no case colors on that gun? __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

08-01-2011, 07:49 PM	#13
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question Hi, Perfdavid, My typo on the date. Jim

08-01-2011, 08:26 PM	#14
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,487	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question After you posted that Alpo I pulled up the picture again and really looked at it. You know, I think that gun has been buffed. __________________ RonJames

08-01-2011, 08:46 PM	#15
perfdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 19	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question Well, I still got this....

08-28-2011, 07:00 PM	#16
sliclee V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Miami Beach Florida Posts: 65	Re: Colt SAA .45 Blackpowder frame question All my Colt SAA's have serial numbers on inside of grips, each side might not fit another gun. __________________ NRA Life SASS Life Gold Coast Gunslingers Okeechobee Marshals trust but verify