Best 22 Semi auto

[Double D]

Originally Posted by carver

+1 on the Remington Speed Master! My all time favorite! Not only is this gun accurate, but it shoots shorts, longs, and long rifle. You can even mix them in the tube if you want to, and it will still eat them all!

I have an old speedmaster I have had for probably 20 yrs? It has been a great little gun.

[American Leader]

I'm a Rem guy so I am bias, I have several different models and love them all. But a lot of folks buy Ruger 10/22 and seem very happy?

[Big Shrek]

Originally Posted by gerard488

The 795 seems interesting, Some other reviews claim that it is real accurate. Just wondering now ,are there different stocks available for it or bigger magazines?
I plan to use it to shoot paper and maybe the odd rabbit

Um, oh yeah, quite a few choices to play with...

Boyds Riflestocks carries 7 different models of Laminates for the 795/60...

Aw heck...just do a google search of Big Shrek Marlin 60/795 accessories, you'll pull up a 6-page listing of Marlin 60/795 toys

I'd post a link, but they hate it when you do that.

Synthetic stocks...
Wells P-90 stock fits the 795 with a few minor mods...
Muzzlelite Bullpup model 70 stock...
Ramline model 70...
and almost any weirdo kit for a 1022 can be modded for the 795...like the MG42...just gotta add some plastic filler & fiddle the T/G area.
Here's my 795 wearing a Ramline...


Oh, anything made for the Marlin 70 just needs a hole drilled in the T/G area to let the LSHO lever thru...easy peasy.
The Marlin 70, 795, 989, 989-M2, 995, etc, are all the same rifle, just with different stocks & the 795 has LSHO.
(Last Shot Hold Open)

Shooter's Ridge made a 25-rd mag...but it kinda required that your rifle be pillar bedded
and you had to fiddle with it to get it to work right...

Champion (SR) is making the second-Gen SR mag...which I've yet to test, but reportedly it works a little better...

Marlin offered a 20-rd mag with the 70HC, which was the daddy of the 795.
Ramline used to offer a hi-cap, but quit making it in 1995, when Bill Clinton's Anti Gun Law (Assault Weapons Ban) took effect.

Avoid at all costs, the National Magazine 15-round magazine...it SUCKS worse than the 1st-gen SR mag.

[Regular Joe]

Originally Posted by Chinook

Yeah... But your 10/22 wears a Rolex! Thats a "bling" rifle without lookin the "bling" part.
Couple questions for you if you dont mind...The Varmint contour Shilen is about as heavy as they come, yes? And how did it "fit" your gun? Ive heard of different barrel brands being "finicky" on certain rifles.
But, I am in the process of acquiring the knowledge/resources to start building my dead stock(minus the optics) 10/22 carbine. The only thing Ive done so far is build a new trigger group, with VQ parts, but I am waiting to drop it in 'til I get the rest of the components, and get confident enough to bed the reciever/barrel. At first I was going to have a gunsmith do it, but I think I'd like to try it myself. Considering the gun cost me 50, or 60 bucks at a pawn shop so many years ago, it wouldnt be a total loss. My plan was to tear the gun down, after I have the parts I think I need, and do the "build" all at once. Also, I kind of like the factory stock, would you ever change yours out, if you built it again? And speaking of...did you just cut the front of yours down after you removed the barrel band?
Just curious, as its hard to get search results, of any relevance for stuff like that. Although Ive learned a lot about the subject, reading posts dating back to this forums inception!

Marlin, Ive got my hands in the stew over at an auction site, for a basically stock 795, like yours, but it comes with the standard mags, not the SS, but it wears an unusually nice Leupold scope(prolly cost more than the rifle brand new), and comes with a really nice hard case. I hope it gets a spot next to the Model 60 in the safe!

Wow you got a lotta questions! Yes, the Shilen Varmint contour is heavy, but I think it's still a little less than a 20" .920 bull. This was on close-out at Midway, and I think I paid $360. That's dirt cheap for a barrel of this spec. Yes, this barrel was a monster to get into the receiver, and I doubt it can ever be taken out.
That is the standard stock, cut as you thought, but I'm pretty pleased with one trick from the tips and tricks section of http://www.rimfirecentral.com
About 2" back from the forend, you drill a centered hole, and insert whatever kind of long nut you can firmly glue in there. I used JB Weld. From the outside, you insert a set screw, and on the inside, you use a short piece of nylon round stock. That nylon stock gets sanded round to fit the underside of the barrel while you're inletting the stock for the barrel. The purpose of this set-up is to determine the correct amount of tension to put on the barrel for optimum harmonic tuning. Once you find the correct torque for both that stud and the receiver stud, you can bed the barrel with a pressure point, closer to the v-block. I used JB Weld for that as well.
No way would I change this stock out, unless I upgraded to a very nice Walnut stock, but then it would need all that work again. Birch is very good for a dry climate. It's very tough, but still pretty light. Where there's more humidity, a laminated stock would be better to help prevent warping.
For receiver bedding, I used PAM cooking spray for a release agent. It worked, but I found that it's not so good at the rear of the receiver. I almost glued both of my CRR receivers in for good. Lucky for me, I checked them about 4 hrs. into curing. I used JB Weld for my bedding agent as well. Tensile strength is far more than any other epoxy type stuff, so it serves pretty much as a subframe between the wood and metal.
I don't know how these guys get their 10/.22's to shoot at all with the Boyds' free floated stocks, as I consider barrel bedding to be the single most important thing in 10/.22 accuracy. By the nature of the v-block, an unsupported barrel will eventually droop.
You can install all of your mods at once, but expect to spend a considerable while getting everything tuned in. Don't expect to see your best results until sometime after the first 1,000 rounds. Don't worry about wearing anything out. I've read that Eley changes their test barrels after 1 Million rounds, whether they need it or not.
One final edit!! Yes, the bling factor. This rifle has about $750 into it.

[Regular Joe]

Since we're into modified 10/.22's, here's a much cheaper alternative:

This is a standard CRR carbine, with a Green Mountain 20" fluted stainless sporter barrel and Bushnell 3x9. Cost on this one is closer to $475. Be warned that Green Mountain has a VERY SERIOUS problem with putting way too much chamfer on the breech of their barrels. This one was just plain dangerous as it came from the factory. I sent it back to them, and they fixed it a little, but I will personally never ever deal with them again. It does shoot remarkably well, and weighs about 6 lbs.
This one has had my own trigger work and bedding. It shoots just about to the practical limit of the caliber, bouncing empty shot hulls around @ 100 yards with boring regularity. Barrels of equal quality can be had from a long list of other companies, like tactical solutions, Kidd, Whistle Pig, etc...

[Chinook]

Originally Posted by Regular Joe

Wow you got a lotta questions!

Yeah, I know. Sorry dude!

That helps a lot tho. Doing this kind of work makes me nervous... Just like everything else Ive never done before! Hahaha! I'll get more confidence as I get to see, and hear more. The JB Weld... Thats awesome! I use the stuff for almost everything... This, and a roll of duct tape. And you could hold the world together if it split at the seams!!! I fugured I should just take it down, and completely screw myself out of shooting it... Build it and tweak it proper, then have the best range day, EVER! Ha!
Thanks again for the info man. Appreciate it a whole lot! Thats as nice of a 10/22 as you can build, and Id like mine to be close to the same quality as yours, overall. Should be a fun venture!

[mr.t7024]

Big Shrek,said it all,nuff said!

[Pustic]

The Remington 10c Mohawk

[Capt Mac Turk]

Originally Posted by Big Shrek

Um, oh yeah, quite a few choices to play with...

Boyds Riflestocks carries 7 different models of Laminates for the 795/60...

Aw heck...just do a google search of Big Shrek Marlin 60/795 accessories, you'll pull up a 6-page listing of Marlin 60/795 toys

I'm NOW looking @ NEW Goodies for My Toy Plinker Mod 60
A Quick Question tho My last shot hold open Dont work.
Any ideas why?
LOL My wifes ALLREADY Beaching cause she see's me looking @ stuff for my Mod 60

[fuzebox40]

Hey Cap, the cartridge lifter spring also lifts the hold open lever. If you remove the two break down screws and drop the stock you can see the lifter and spring function from underneeth while sliding the bolt back and forth. You'll see the spring sticks past the lifter underneeth the hold open lever, but doesn't touch the hold open lever until the lifter has no more rounds and thus rises higher also reaching and lifting the hold open lever as well.
When the hold open lever is engaged it is simply hooking the front of the bolt at the bottom right corner. You can actualy see it when it's engaged looking down through the ejector door with a flashlight.
Does it engage when you pull back the bolt manualy? If it works that way then try pulling the bolt all the way back and letting go a few times, seeing if it still works.
If it's not working anytime at all, it's either not being lifted all the way or there is wear damage at point of catch.

[fuzebox40]

Here's how it looks outside the gun. That little bend on the upper right is what catches the bottom right corner of the bolt.
I bought a mod 60 that needed parts and I left this lever out because the stud is worn and loose and the trigger guard I used isn't notched for it either, so it just functions old style before the hold open feature till I find a deal on a trigger guard and lever.

[Capt Mac Turk]

Originally Posted by fuzebox40

Here's how it looks outside the gun. That little bend on the upper right is what catches the bottom right corner of the bolt.
I bought a mod 60 that needed parts and I left this lever out because the stud is worn and loose and the trigger guard I used isn't notched for it either, so it just functions old style before the hold open feature till I find a deal on a trigger guard and lever.

Fuze I have never tore it down compleatly yet but I have saved Everything I have seen on doing it tho
When I do & if I have a Problem I'll hit ya up TYVM 4 the INFO BUD!!

As far as the Bolt charging it will hold open if I pull & push in a tiny bit,
So I bet your right it must be tweeked alittle.

[fuzebox40]

That may be the manual hold open. The charging handle has a little knob on the opposite end that fits into a little hole on the left side wall of the receiver and thats how it's used (just a little push). It's pulled back most of the way at that point but the "last shot hold open" only holds the bolt about half way back.
The mechanism separates from the receiver as a unit so it's all super easy until you have to disect the mechanism itself to replace a spring or something. Some people recommend taking a picture of it first for later reference if it needs total break down. Worst thing about it not working is dry firing the gun when it's empty.

[jrinfoley]

Although I have two highly modified 10/22 rifles that shoot flawlessly, for out of the box, the Marlin 60 gets my vote. Accurate and perfect functioning with no tweeking.

Mine after a few modifications.





And before the Boyds stock but with the Williams Firesights.

[Regular Joe]

Load that Mod. 60 just two times with CCI Velocitors or Aguila Interceptors, and see if you still have a Mod. 60... I didn't build my 10/.22's to look at. Rifles are for shooting.

[3/2 STA SS]

Great thumbhole stock!!

[Inthewind1976]

I have a 10/22 I bought USED about 15 years and 5000 or so rounds ago, and it actually IS accurate, out of the box, feeds damned near anything, and is a pleasure to shoot. If it were a Mini14, I would tell you its about as accurate as a broken sling shot, but the 10/22's Ive fired are ALL pretty darned accurate. Love em. Just my 2 cents.

[Wahoo69]

I have a 10/22 and it is very easy to modify yourself for very little money. My favorite is the Weatherby 22 auto as it fits an adult and is accurate out of the box.

[bobv]

My choice is the T/C R-55 Benchmark, it wears a Weaver T36 and loves SK Standard Plus ammo
Bob

[Jaxshooter]

The Ruger 10/22 is hard to beat as far as reliability and the almost unlimited aftermarket parts. The can be built into almost an confirguration imaginable from ARs to tactical models and everything in between. It is also one of the if not the most economical base guns to start with. Nordic Components makes an all metal AR chassis that is very reasonably priced and weighs close to a standard AR-15 if you want a gun for practice that is cheap to shoot.