2400 question 357mag - The Firearms Forum

gazzmann · 10-29-2011, 10:00 PM

Alliant Powder lists 14.9 grains of powder for a 158 grain jacketed bullet, for .357 mag.
This really fills the case, almost to a compressed charge.
Is this correct?
Loaded one with 11 grains, wasn't too bad. But i'm concerned with a pretty close to compressed charge. Comments appreciated.Thanks!

res45 · 10-29-2011, 11:32 PM

That's what my Lyman reloading manual #49 list as well for jacketed bullet in revolvers in the 158 gr. range. I've never really found the need to push it to the Max. load with J bullets but I've come close,I load for accuracy and I've found that 14.5 grs. does just fine with both 158 gr. jacketed and my cast lead bullets.

Compressed loads are not a problem,2400 is sorta bulky put your finger tip over the case mouth and give it a few taps and it will settle some,the 14.9 gr. load is a Max. load not something you necessarily want to start outwith and it's not listed as a compressed load in the 357 either.

JLA · 10-30-2011, 09:47 AM

14.5 is my go to load for 2400 in .357 mag with 158 gr XTPs.

That is a relatively slow powder for handguns and should just about completely fill the case.

carver · 10-30-2011, 10:43 AM

There are lots of different powders out there, we choose the one we want based on what we want the bullet to do. I'm looking for a powder that will give me more loads per pound, thus, saving me money. I choose Acurate Powder for that very reason. They list #5, 9.7grs, for 1256fps, as a max load. And 8.6grs for 1100fps., as a starting load.

JLA · 10-30-2011, 10:50 AM

Myles, I use titegroup for the very same reasons. Hodgdons data site lists 5.4 @ 1135 fps with a 158 XTP as a starting charge and 6.1 @ 1229 as MAX. Very economical powder and very clean burning. Its every bit as clean, if not cleaner, as accurate #2 is.

dbach · 10-30-2011, 11:43 AM

I've been shooting the following in my Henry rifle (22" barrel):

Hornady 158 grain FP/XTP's, WSPM primer, 2400 @ 15.2 grains
The gun shoots them well, no problems at 1654 fps.

A little better load (for me) was: Hornady 158 grain FP/XTP's, WSPM primer, Winchester 296 @ 16.7 grains. I'm showing 1700 fps. The accuracy with this load is a little better and I like the sound of the load.

OCYMMV

Orin · 11-01-2011, 01:25 PM

Think I like JLA's input... Yer probly gonna blow most of yer 2400 out the barrel of a pistol when loading max volumes. My 71/2" 44 is that way. Give me a bit more speed in the burn!

gazzmann · 11-05-2011, 11:36 PM

Thanks all, at least I'm not losing my handloading mind.
Titegroup is my "go to" powder and i just had a pound of 2400 on the shelf.
After using Titegroup for the .357, the 2400 charge seemed extreme.
Better to be safe and ask than sorry.
John

sliclee · 11-11-2011, 09:44 PM

dbach-what Henry rifle are you firing those loads out of? I know the magnum has a 20" barrel you said 22".

DidI · 11-11-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sliclee

dbach-what Henry rifle are you firing those loads out of? I know the magnum has a 20" barrel you said 22".

I second the motion... my barrel measures 20" also.

In the days ahead I will be loading some 158 cast and some Hornady 180 gn, HPXTP... with 2400 powder/ I let ya'll know how it goes.

dbach · 11-12-2011, 06:03 AM

Oops

Mine is a Henry H006M, .357/.38 I was mistaken, it is a 20" barrel.

10-29-2011, 10:00 PM	#1
gazzmann V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: So. Fla. Posts: 146	2400 question 357mag Alliant Powder lists 14.9 grains of powder for a 158 grain jacketed bullet, for .357 mag. This really fills the case, almost to a compressed charge. Is this correct? Loaded one with 11 grains, wasn't too bad. But i'm concerned with a pretty close to compressed charge. Comments appreciated.Thanks! -->

10-30-2011, 09:47 AM	#3
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,328	Re: 2400 question 357mag 14.5 is my go to load for 2400 in .357 mag with 158 gr XTPs. That is a relatively slow powder for handguns and should just about completely fill the case. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

10-30-2011, 11:43 AM	#6
dbach V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Trinity, TX Posts: 169	Re: 2400 question 357mag I've been shooting the following in my Henry rifle (22" barrel): Hornady 158 grain FP/XTP's, WSPM primer, 2400 @ 15.2 grains The gun shoots them well, no problems at 1654 fps. A little better load (for me) was: Hornady 158 grain FP/XTP's, WSPM primer, Winchester 296 @ 16.7 grains. I'm showing 1700 fps. The accuracy with this load is a little better and I like the sound of the load. OCYMMV __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, TX Rookie Reloader but learning fast 9mm, 40S&W, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 38 Special, .357 Magnum, 38 S&W, .243, & 30-06 CHL ~ Texas

11-01-2011, 01:25 PM	#7
Orin V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 109	Re: 2400 question 357mag Think I like JLA's input... Yer probly gonna blow most of yer 2400 out the barrel of a pistol when loading max volumes. My 71/2" 44 is that way. Give me a bit more speed in the burn!

11-05-2011, 11:36 PM	#8
gazzmann V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: So. Fla. Posts: 146	Re: 2400 question 357mag Thanks all, at least I'm not losing my handloading mind. Titegroup is my "go to" powder and i just had a pound of 2400 on the shelf. After using Titegroup for the .357, the 2400 charge seemed extreme. Better to be safe and ask than sorry. John

10-29-2011, 11:32 PM	#2
res45 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 182	Re: 2400 question 357mag That's what my Lyman reloading manual #49 list as well for jacketed bullet in revolvers in the 158 gr. range. I've never really found the need to push it to the Max. load with J bullets but I've come close,I load for accuracy and I've found that 14.5 grs. does just fine with both 158 gr. jacketed and my cast lead bullets. Compressed loads are not a problem,2400 is sorta bulky put your finger tip over the case mouth and give it a few taps and it will settle some,the 14.9 gr. load is a Max. load not something you necessarily want to start outwith and it's not listed as a compressed load in the 357 either.

10-30-2011, 10:43 AM	#4
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,295	Re: 2400 question 357mag There are lots of different powders out there, we choose the one we want based on what we want the bullet to do. I'm looking for a powder that will give me more loads per pound, thus, saving me money. I choose Acurate Powder for that very reason. They list #5, 9.7grs, for 1256fps, as a max load. And 8.6grs for 1100fps., as a starting load. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-30-2011, 10:50 AM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,328	Re: 2400 question 357mag Myles, I use titegroup for the very same reasons. Hodgdons data site lists 5.4 @ 1135 fps with a 158 XTP as a starting charge and 6.1 @ 1229 as MAX. Very economical powder and very clean burning. Its every bit as clean, if not cleaner, as accurate #2 is. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

11-11-2011, 09:44 PM	#9
sliclee V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Miami Beach Florida Posts: 65	Re: 2400 question 357mag dbach-what Henry rifle are you firing those loads out of? I know the magnum has a 20" barrel you said 22". __________________ NRA Life SASS Life Gold Coast Gunslingers Okeechobee Marshals trust but verify

11-12-2011, 06:03 AM	#11
dbach V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Trinity, TX Posts: 169	Re: 2400 question 357mag Oops Mine is a Henry H006M, .357/.38 I was mistaken, it is a 20" barrel. __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, TX Rookie Reloader but learning fast 9mm, 40S&W, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 38 Special, .357 Magnum, 38 S&W, .243, & 30-06 CHL ~ Texas