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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 24
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I just read on foxnews.com that National Right to Carry has passed the house by a vote of 272-154. We slightly missed the super majority to avoid a veto, but still good news. Go check out foxnews for the full story, they are running it on the first page of the site.
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Land of Lincoln
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Thanks, Governor Quinn, you socialist pawn, you spineless tool of the left wing nutjobs. Illinois, the once-proud Land of Lincoln, sticks out on that list like a cowpie in a snowbank. The only state with no concealed carry provision.
Can't wait to get out of here...
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: in a motorhome where ever we park!
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Posts: 1,627
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so for those states allowing CC without a permit issued will be able to do the same anywhere in the US?..HOPING this passes fully and does NOT get VETOED!!
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 187
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Anything to force Illinois' hand at this point. I'm tired of being denied the same rights as citizens in every other state.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 605
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rohm, maddigan and the "Q" ball live in the dark ages. their days are numbered. people are tired of these elitist control freaks. The times they are a changing
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 17 pulls, into the propwash...
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The 2nd ammendment has never been a part of any state's constitution. Its a federal right, and we, as citizens of the United States should have no worry of travelling from state to state, across our great country...Firearm at the ready. It is an undeniable right given to us by our forefathers.
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Utah
Posts: 60
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Going without your concealed weapon is like going without underwear, it just aint right.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Calvary Chapel Bible College; Murrieta,CA
Posts: 755
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CC should be a right at 18. And a permit should not be required I firmly believe that.
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Eastern Missouri
Posts: 1,029
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I refuse to cross the state line into Illinois, even for Fast Eddie's, which hurts but sacrifices must be made...
Illinois folks need to start voting for the right folks for their state government, looks like. The state's purt near flat broke as it is... |
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Former Guest
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Moses Lake, WA
Posts: 10,344
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There are a lot of lies going about concerning this bill. Go to this site, print it out and use it to see and spread the truth:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...112hr822rh.pdf If you are not otherwise prohibited from having and carrying fire arms and you have a local CCW and you have valid picture ID and the State you are presently in (visiting) has provisions for CCW or does not prohibit CCW then you may carry legally in that State by obeying all the provisions that State requires of their own citizens to be issued a CCW. The bill also calls for the GAO to perform an audit of the various State laws concerning CCW and the number of resident CCW permits which have been issued, the number of resident CCW permits which have been rejected and the number of non-resident CCW permits issued and the number of non-resident permits which have been rejected and the effectiveness of such State laws and regulations in protecting the public safety. This audit is to be delivered to Congress not later than one year after the enactment of the Act. That''s all folks, There is not more after that. Pops |
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Illinois
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Of course, St Clair and Madison co's aren't great, either. Costello inherited the Touchette political machine and I am sure whoever is picked to follow him will have the benefit of the political machine. The dead in East St Louis will turn any vote around in these counties. Combine that with the redistricting wars going on which will cost Illinois a few Repub. reps in the US House and I don't think the liberals have anything to worry about. |
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Houston, TX
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And then we put someone from Chicago in the White House... Well, we didn't but you know what I mean...
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Former Guest
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Moses Lake, WA
Posts: 10,344
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Now, as that is written, it is gray as whether you have to comply with some or all of the qualifications of the State you are visiting.
That means that, if I visit a State that requires 4 days of training and a proficiency test with the particular firearm I'm concealing, my WA permit might not be good enough to give me reciprocity, as WA thinks my military training is sufficient for that. Pops |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Jax, Fl.
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Miami Beach Florida
Posts: 65
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That bill will lead to REGISTRATION
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Southern Indiana
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Posts: 1,333
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amen, I live 2 minutes from illinois and i simply will not go there.
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Southern Indiana
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Posts: 1,333
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armed and safe, that bill looks like it will not change anything. I can still carry in a bunch of states that recognize my indiana permit.
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Murfeesboro,TN
Posts: 9
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In Tenneesse it cost me $150 and took three months even with my police training and background but it is worth it to protect me and mine. I do not take going armed lightly I realilize the responsibilities and reprocusions that go with the permit.
One thing I was told was that only use factory ammo in case somebody sues you for shooting them with a reload..bunch of bovine scatology if you ask me. |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: naugatuck,Ct.
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what states except this
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Former Guest
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Moses Lake, WA
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Henderson, Nevada
Posts: 645
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The crooks and "nut jobs" do not need a permit for concealed carry, so why have one for the everyday guy?
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Former Guest
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Moses Lake, WA
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 605
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a victory for the good guys.
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16
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I'll be very surprised if this bill gets through the Senate. Just not enough pro-gun votes there. We'll keep our fingers crossed, hope that I'm wrong.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 789
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No chance to get through the senate, and even less than none to get signed by the president.
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