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Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: las vegas
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hello,
i'd like to chat with someone about a walther pp i accquired it is an interesting pistol maybe post war ww2 also german walther co. stated s# was pre war era the grip plates seem to be early they bare the manurhin logo. on the slide manufacture de machines du haust rhin manurhin logo made in france and the model lic. exclusive walther mod.pp 7.65 c.a.i. georgia vt. magazine is original to pistol also has manurhin script all stamped on the slide no markings on ejection portion of barrell. any feed back is helpfull thank you. kim robinson
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Henderson, Nevada
Posts: 656
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This is a nice looking piece.
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: las vegas
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thank you do you have info on this pistol please
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3,504
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In 1952 Walther entered into a licensing agreement with Manurhin, Bourtzwiller, Mulhouse, France. Walther was just coming out of WW II and had moved from their original location in East,Germany ( ahead of the Russians ). Walther was in a place called " between a rock and a hard place " in regards to equipment and cash. Manurhin made the guns, shipped them to Germany , either in parts or completed, Walther inspected them, did any required finishing, proofed them under German law and roll marked ( etched rather ) their names on them.From 1952 until 1984 all Walther PP's and PPKs were made in France, even if they are considered to be made in " Germany ". Manurhin was also allowed to make and sell their version under their own name. You do not have a Walther PP, You have a Manurhin PP. Same gun, same equipment used to make both Walther and Manurhin guns, but still yours is labeled Manurhin and normally worth about 15 to 25 percent less than if it had Walther's named etched on the slide. Post war, made between 1952 and 1984.
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RonJames Last edited by RJay; 12-06-2011 at 11:11 PM.. |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,087
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Manurhin in France basically picked up Walther pistol manufacture under license from Walther after WW2. The original Walther factory was in East Germany, from which Carl Walther had escaped, and West Germany could not manufacture firearms since they lost the war. So, Manurhin was licensed to produce the PP and PPK pistols from around 1952 until 1986.
Walther did establish a factory in Ulm, Germany c.1957 but interestingly enough the guns were still largely made in France. Final hardening and finishing of the slides were conducted in Germany on French-machined parts, which were rollmarked as Made in Germany. Interesting partnership between Manurhin and Walther in those days. Your gun was imported by Century Arms International. They imported quite a few of these which had been surplussed by various police agencies in Europe. Does yours have any markings on the front grip strap? If you provide the serial number we can help date it. We see these offered at $400-$450 regularly but they don't actually seem to sell at that price. $375 is probably more realistic.
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