I still wonder today....

[gun runner]

Why the US military never showed pictures of Osama Bin Laden when he was shot and killed. I was like "why not?!?" I have a feeling he is still living

[jack404]

with the deaths of S T 6, we'll never really know eh ..

[gun runner]

*shaking my damn head*

[glens67]

What a way to out S T 6
Then put them all a Helo....
Thanks Obamma

[hunterfisher]

I won't believe anything, Obuma, says.

[Grizz]

But they had no problems showing Gaddafi! I smell cover up

[gun runner]

or a conspiracy by the democratic party to get Obama re-elected eh?

[raven818]

Originally Posted by gun runner

or a conspiracy by the democratic party to get Obama re-elected eh?

Odds of hacker 'shenanigans' during the presidential primaries are high

By Aliya Sternstein 12/16/2011

Expect hackers to try to disgrace presidential candidates with electronic extortion and other forms of digital deception during the upcoming primaries, say some former hackers and computer security specialists.

The surge in social networking has coincided with the rise of social engineering, or tricking a computer user into revealing personal data -- perhaps the answer to a password recovery question -- by posing as a trusted acquaintance. Hacker collectives Anonymous and LulzSec, and presumably China, have exploited this tactic, and other online gambits, to filch law enforcement authorities' personal data, and to gain access to the Gmail accounts of senior federal officials and military email addresses.

Now, perpetrators with a variety of motives are likely to apply the technique for infiltrating campaign email accounts, publishing falsehoods that go viral or knocking out candidate websites with denial-of-service attacks that inundate them with useless traffic, say cybersecurity experts.

"There's a pretty high probability of shenanigans," said Jennifer Emick, a security consultant who shed her affiliation with Anonymous after growing concerned about stunts she said verge on criminal. "With all the social networking -- they call it open source intelligence -- you can impersonate people the targets know on Facebook and have access to photos or personal information."

Some individuals apparently have attempted to pay hackers to shutdown sites that cast shadows over their favored candidate.

According to a 2011 chat room log obtained by Nextgov, one Internet user nicknamed "M" entered the room - a meeting place for hackers -- and asked if a member named "Jester" was "helping out with Rick Santorum's problem." The Jester is a prominent hacker known for attacking pro-jihad sites. M, an apparent supporter of former Pennsylvania senator and current GOP presidential candidate Santorum, then explained that "Jester is generally targeting liberal sites so I thought he might be in on this."

A chat room member clarified for M that The Jester typically attacks extremist sites. M replied that "this is an extremist gay site" -- likely a reference to SpreadingSantorum.com, a satirical, widely-visited site created by a gay columnist in retaliation against the conservative politician's arguably anti-homosexual views. After several in the room reiterated that M was looking in the wrong forum, the individual signed off.

Santorum's campaign staff did not respond to a request for comment.

Emick priced a job like taking out that site at $1,000 to $2,000, due to the risk and hour or two of work involved - enough for a hacker to pay rent for a couple of months, she said.

Other hackers have their own political leanings, as evidenced by a college student who in 2008 commandeered then vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's personal Yahoo! mailbox reportedly to find content that could undermine her campaign. According to federal prosecutors, David C. Kernell reset Palin's account password by accurately guessing the answers to her security questions, read her messages and then posted screenshots of the emails online.

"We had Watergate 40 years ago, but maybe today the therapists' email would simply be hacked, or the computer where they stored all of their clients' records would be hacked into," said Jack Lerner, a technology law professor at the University of Southern California.

This election season, "I don't think it is beyond the realm of possibility that hackers could execute denial-of-service attacks to disrupt a campaign's online operations, or, say, break into campaign email accounts to spread disinformation or damaging information about the candidate or the candidate's opponent -- if that kind of thing hasn't happened already," he added.

A glance through the biographical information in publicly available social network profiles can provide clues to a person's password recovery answers, experts point out. "And yet people still do dumb things: they give honest answers to security questions," Emick said. Chris K. Ridder, a San Francisco-based attorney and former resident fellow at Stanford Law School's Center for Internet and Society, said, "People might want to think more about their password reset questions. You don't put the real name of your cat in there, if you're going to find that on Facebook."

Elsewhere in the world, oppressive governments might be manipulating the Web to influence voting outcomes, as was probably the case in Russia where alleged Kremlin-sponsored denial of service attacks interfered with independent news and election monitoring websites.

Unlike government agencies, some campaign groups do not have the resources or know-how to prepare for data breaches. "Training your people to resist social engineering is a really good investment," Ridder said. "All you need is one person who is convinced by whoever is requesting the personal information."

Once information is compromised, it can be difficult to identify intruders, let alone prosecute them. Only a handful of hacktivists have been arrested and some culprits are not afraid of going to jail, said a former federal official who asked to remain anonymous. For every one or two criminals the government is catching, there are probably dozens slipping through the cracks, he said.

"In any cat and mouse game you're going to be playing a little bit of catch-up," former Justice Department computer crime investigator Mark Rasch said. "You can't just throw technology at the problem. You can't just say we need more people . . . you have to think like a hacker."

Nathan J. Hochman, a former assistant attorney general for Justice's tax division, said, "the fact that someone can get punished six months later might not be a deterrent when they can disrupt an election." Hochman, now partner at law firm Bingham McCutchen LLP, suggested campaign organizers devise a plan for how they will notify supporters and volunteers if there is a data breach or a viral spread of disinformation.

Campaign officials for Republican presidential front-runners Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann, as well as President Obama, did not respond to inquiries. The deputy press secretary for Texas governor and presidential hopeful Rick Perry said, "We don't discuss our internal security procedures."

"If I was running for president, I would delete my Gmail account," Ridder said.

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[gun runner]

I didnt really read most of that cause I gotta go outside for a while and change my oil on my truck but what is it trying to say?

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by gun runner

Why the US military never showed pictures of Osama Bin Laden when he was shot and killed. I was like "why not?!?" I have a feeling he is still living

I think he died a long time ago.

This was just another ego boost for obie at the publics expense.

So much for Americas most transparent Government ever.

Right up there with all his personal life info.

[gun runner]

They should of tooken a picture of the fool, that other one too. Whats there to hide? They should of just warned the viewers of graphic images like on CNN before they show them.
*shaking my damn head*

[raven818]

Originally Posted by gun runner

I didnt really read most of that cause I gotta go outside for a while and change my oil on my truck but what is it trying to say?

To demonstrate to the writer below just how easily his remark can be accomplished. IMO, this is the ultimate conspiracy. Hanging Chads will be small time, compared.

gun runner: a conspiracy by the democratic party to get Obama re-elected eh?

[gun runner]

Originally Posted by raven818

To demonstrate to the writer below just how easily his remark can be accomplished. IMO, this is the ultimate conspiracy. Hanging Chads will be small time, compared.

That wasnt a remark that was a question.Back on, oh I didnt know that about my question I asked about the conspiracy. I guess Obama could accomplish that

[gun runner]

Other than that I still cant figure out what you are trying to say. Could you put your remark in shorter terms lol

I dont know anything about hacking so I didnt understand what you posted way above.

I still want pictures of Bin Laden dead. You know why not?

[raven818]

I'll shorten it. Sorry for the confusion. In one of the posts, a conspiracy was mentioned. I wanted to demonstrate a conspiracy at it's best. Hence, my post.

OBL dead? I know the same as everyone else. We were told Barry didn't want to offend. We were also told the US didn't want the photos of his body to show up on recruiting posters. We were also told the pictures would create hate for American troops, resulting in their deaths.

Somewhere down the line, someone, somewhere will come forth and tell the whole story.

[Ledslnger]

Originally Posted by gun runner

They should of tooken a picture of the fool, that other one too. Whats there to hide? They should of just warned the viewers of graphic images like on CNN before they show them.
*shaking my damn head*

I believe they had pics out of his body almost immediately after it happened because I believe I saw one on the internet, then some towel dispensers started freaking out about it being "disrespectful" and shiite so they put the screws to them. If they didn't shut it down they feared retribution in the form of terrorism. And, since the Bush family has been in business with the bin Laden family for over 2 decades they didn't want to piss the bin Laden family off. Not good business sense.

[Dennis C]

They don't show it for the same reasons they don't show the 9/11 people jumping from buildings and stuff anymore. They don't think the average Joe can handle seeing these disturbing images.
And also they don't want to offend the Jihad people and make them angry and want to blow themselves up in a mall here, like they don't want to do that already.

[H-D]

well if we had a pic of some Hobo in a headscarf then people would feel better?
if there was a pic ppl would say its fake same discussion different words

[snipete08]

I, too, am wondering about it. But I have two wild guesses and opposing ideas or something like this.
First, the government may have been making this up so that the public would know that Osama is gone and the government has vanquished the unseen target.
Second, if the government will show a picture of Osama and how he was badly killed would make his followers more mad and incite them to plan another terrorism attack...

[Grizz]

Originally Posted by snipete08

Second, if the government will show a picture of Osama and how he was badly killed would make his followers more mad and incite them to plan another terrorism attack...

I'm not so sure it was "them" who really had anything with bringing the towers down. Everything just doesn't add up. I mean the people they say that were flying the planes weren't even capable of flying those jets, much less threading the needle by actually hitting the towers.

[gun runner]

thanks Raven, oh yeah Osamas followers are already pssd off but that can be some more fake info too. Idk, I just cant believe the US couldnt show a picture of the dead man. They certainly showed plenty of pictures of him holding an AK47 I believe. Why not show a picture of him when hes dead with bullet holes through him? That I cant answer. Nope.

[snipete08]

Originally Posted by Grizz

I'm not so sure it was "them" who really had anything with bringing the towers down. Everything just doesn't add up. I mean the people they say that were flying the planes weren't even capable of flying those jets, much less threading the needle by actually hitting the towers.

So you're saying you still believe in the 9/11 conspiracy theory, in which the 9/11 terror attacks were part of a well-conceived, well-planned, and staged act by the government... We can't really say that it was "them" who brought the towers down because they are not capable of flying the planes. However, it's not the capability of flying that I would like to point out here, but it's the capability of maneuvering people as a means to achieving their goals...