Doctors in America are going broke? YES. - Page 2 - The Firearms Forum

Gabob · 01-07-2012, 09:33 PM

I had a good solid business in my country drugstore. The last few years the insurance companies had almost taken over. They dictated what I could charge and actually tried to get me to call doctors and ask them to change the drugs they prescribed. One actually tried to get me to sign a contract to provide drugs for average wholesale price less 10% with NO fee for my services.. One of my closest friends had to drive 50 miles to find a store stupid enough to sign up with his insurance. I sold out and retired. Finally had to relinguish my license because people kept wanting me to work part time to fill in for them. I could not afford the malpractice insurance and continuing education to just do part time work. Glad I don't have to deal with government agencies and insurance companies anymore

navis128 · 01-07-2012, 09:34 PM

If it gets too much for them, they can always join the Peace Corps (pronounced Core

). Go to a third world country for a couple years and have their student loan debt "forgiven"...that's just spin for the tax payers will pick it up...

Zhurh · 01-07-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mjp28

College loans (besides blonde secretaries) can be a killer, you can NOT bankrupt them away! They are on you like glue until you pay them off, some students go a bit wild in college and run them way up. Some do not understand bank and tax laws and refi themselves into more trouble. Plus tuitions are unreal.

Unless mommy & daddy pay the bill it can be steep. I worked my way through my undergrad....but it was $150 a quarter plus $5 parking -and- I had a good job. (And once I was in supervision my employer paid for my MBA, whew!)

Ya know MJP, we got two kids in school right now, and they ain't geniuses so no scholarships but you do what you got to to get them through. Our son is costing 2 thou a month once you add in all it's costing and no loans whatsoever; and we'd rather do it that way and stay broke for a few years. Our daughter gets some help as she was born deaf but still a little over 1000/month. We've been living like paupers for the 3rd year now, but what can ya do?

Here in Alaska, they are attempting to start a state sponsored med school to help provide medical staff in rural areas.

My nephew is a PJ in AF AK guard para-rescue. They have all kinds of programs that awards a license so people can work in medical field, write scripts, treat people at clinics ect. Not a doctor with 8 years of school under their belt, but where medical support from military can cross train to work in civilian facilities. I think he said it only takes 2 years for him to complete but it's supposed to be quite tough program. He told me if he ever gets tired of flying in blk hawks, he might apply. I told him, that he gets sent to afghan every summer, and they have him even going to Somalia in 2013. Sooner or later getting shot at now and then and dealing with a wife and family will make that lifestyle not so appealing. Told him he should enter that program.

mjp28 · 01-08-2012, 04:17 PM

Zhurh,

That sounds like quite a load, good luck to you on that!

On the need for medical care is everywhere even if you're an EMT or PA or whatever, nothing wrong with that. School costs, hospital costs and a whole lot more got way out of hand in our country.

My parents had 5 boys, I paid my way but they shelled out a lot on the other four. I don't know how kids on their own do it without a big student loan bill when they're done.

Good luck to you and them.

mjp28 · 01-08-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabob

I had a good solid business in my country drugstore. The last few years the insurance companies had almost taken over. They dictated what I could charge and actually tried to get me to call doctors and ask them to change the drugs they prescribed. One actually tried to get me to sign a contract to provide drugs for average wholesale price less 10% with NO fee for my services.. One of my closest friends had to drive 50 miles to find a store stupid enough to sign up with his insurance. I sold out and retired. Finally had to relinguish my license because people kept wanting me to work part time to fill in for them. I could not afford the malpractice insurance and continuing education to just do part time work. Glad I don't have to deal with government agencies and insurance companies anymore

Wow that's some story (x how many more?). How in the world do we get things back in line?

A lot of kids...and older people...are going back into skilled trades, working with their hands rather than "spend or waste" 4+ years in college, then grad school.

I'm glad I'm done with all of that, funny thing I actually loved school, college and always had great jobs. My wife works part time in a hospital, with 36 years too young to retire, can't quit, hates working short everyday.......C'MON LOTTO!

01-07-2012, 09:33 PM	#26
Gabob Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SW GA CSA Posts: 1,160	Re: Doctors in America are going broke? YES. I had a good solid business in my country drugstore. The last few years the insurance companies had almost taken over. They dictated what I could charge and actually tried to get me to call doctors and ask them to change the drugs they prescribed. One actually tried to get me to sign a contract to provide drugs for average wholesale price less 10% with NO fee for my services.. One of my closest friends had to drive 50 miles to find a store stupid enough to sign up with his insurance. I sold out and retired. Finally had to relinguish my license because people kept wanting me to work part time to fill in for them. I could not afford the malpractice insurance and continuing education to just do part time work. Glad I don't have to deal with government agencies and insurance companies anymore __________________ NRA Endowment Member Keep Your Powder Dry

01-07-2012, 09:34 PM	#27
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: Doctors in America are going broke? YES. If it gets too much for them, they can always join the Peace Corps (pronounced Core ). Go to a third world country for a couple years and have their student loan debt "forgiven"...that's just spin for the tax payers will pick it up... __________________ A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence

01-08-2012, 04:17 PM	#29
mjp28 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: anytown, OHIO Contributor Posts: 3,055	Re: Doctors in America are going broke? YES. Zhurh, That sounds like quite a load, good luck to you on that! On the need for medical care is everywhere even if you're an EMT or PA or whatever, nothing wrong with that. School costs, hospital costs and a whole lot more got way out of hand in our country. My parents had 5 boys, I paid my way but they shelled out a lot on the other four. I don't know how kids on their own do it without a big student loan bill when they're done. Good luck to you and them.