Thoughts on muzzle brakes?

[JLA]

Might check with your local parks and woldlife dept. Here in TX 'cans' are illegal for deer hunting. Only time we can legally use them is for hunting non game animals like any type of varmint or feral hogs. Deer is a no-no and will land you in jail with your weapon coinfiscated and your hunting license revoked. And this is TX law which is leaps and bounds less strengent than kommiefornia law.

[reynolds357]

Originally Posted by JLA

Thats not recoil. its gradual muzzle rise. and with an M16 it is controlable if you strongarm it.

The .223 does have recoil forces. they are just minimal compared to other larger centerfire offerings. But you knew that..

Muzzle rise comes from what force? Recoil. Recoil is stopped at the butt of the stock contacting the shoulder and the force is then transferred back into the rifle which results in the muzzle climbing. It is still recoil force that causes this. I did not say you could not control it.

[JLA]

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[MSGT-R]

Originally Posted by JLA

Might check with your local parks and woldlife dept. Here in TX 'cans' are illegal for deer hunting. Only time we can legally use them is for hunting non game animals like any type of varmint or feral hogs. Deer is a no-no and will land you in jail with your weapon coinfiscated and your hunting license revoked. And this is TX law which is leaps and bounds less strengent than kommiefornia law.

Yeah, their illegal, but I can wish.
It just makes sense to have a quiet hunt. One muzzle report will spook the wildlife within earshot and your hunting day is over.

[reynolds357]

Originally Posted by MSGT-R

Yeah, their illegal, but I can wish.
It just makes sense to have a quiet hunt. One muzzle report will spook the wildlife within earshot and your hunting day is over.

Maybe that is the reason they are illegal. Dont want the entire heard to get killed at the same time.

[JLA]

Yep thats exactly why they are illegal. Simply because trophy hunters would take extreme advantage and wipe out all the good bucks in a single trek.

[projectile]

Originally Posted by JLA

Anything with 1/2X28 threads and bored for .224 projectiles will work well with the .22-250 the same as it does for .223.

And that JP enterprise would be a sweet choice.

I will go with this in 1/2 x 28 will that be ok, I brought up my rifle specs and it says muzzle od .820" is that ok?
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1...-Varmint-Brake
thankyou

[JLA]

That one will do it. The gunsmith insalling it will have to turn your barrel down at the muzzle to appx .495" to thread it 1/2X28TPI, which will create a shoulder for the brake to seat against It looks like the OD of the brake is also gonna be close to the same .820 as your muzzle. definitely close enough the smith can blend the barrel steel to the brake while its still in the lathe after installation and make it look streamline.

Is your barrel stainless or blued steel?

[projectile]

Originally Posted by JLA

That one will do it. The gunsmith insalling it will have to turn your barrel down at the muzzle to appx .495" to thread it 1/2X28TPI, which will create a shoulder for the brake to seat against It looks like the OD of the brake is also gonna be close to the same .820 as your muzzle. definitely close enough the smith can blend the barrel steel to the brake while its still in the lathe after installation and make it look streamline.

Is your barrel stainless or blued steel?

its stainless,
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...armint-sf.aspx
thanks alot for your help just waiting for the rifle to arrive and then find the right person to do the job
cheers

[JLA]

Yep.

[Neverhome]

I have the Boss muzzle brake on my Browning 300 win mag and as was previously mentioned, it is much worse on someone standing beside you than on the shooter. I only use it at the range to sight in. However, with that break and a Syms recoil reduction pad, the felt recoil on that 300 with 180 grain bullets is less than a 30-30. That brake also came with a non perfe'd sleeve to replace it if when shooting at the range to keep the noise down. It simply screws onto the end of the barrel after taking off the brake. I personally don't think they are necessary on
calibers under a 30-06, but to each his own, and if that's your choice then go for it. No sense in not buying exactly what you want and having buyers remorse later.

Neverhome

[Albtraum]

Thanks for everyone's input. After much consideration, I'm sticking to the Axis SR in .223. Just waiting for a certain website to get it in stock. I've made a list of muzzle brakes/flash hiders I would like to experiment with, maybe even make video demonstrations with them. However some are on backorder. I like the idea of being able to stay on target with the follow-through after the shot, as well as being able to see the impact. If the .223 has hardly any kick, whats wrong with minimizing it?

[projectile]

Originally Posted by JLA

Yep.

just curious on how much it would roughly cost to have a smith install a muzzle break on a stainless barrel?
cheers

[JLA]

It greatly depends on the smith doing the work. He will charge you machine time and a labor charge for fitting. and niether are universal rates. Every smith is different. Id figure it safe to assume that job would run in the ballpark of 175 bucks give or take.