How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? - The Firearms Forum

prof_fate · 01-26-2012, 10:54 AM

Since they don't put them in the box with the Loadmaster...you can't complain about how badly written they are.

I can however complain that they're not there at all.

Yes I found them online, but c'mon - either put them in there or give me something that says where to get them. Assuming I have internet access, a printer, and can find them is going a bit far IMO.

steve4102 · 01-26-2012, 10:57 AM

Sure you press wasn't opened or used?

X Ring · 01-26-2012, 11:22 AM

At least they cant lead you wrong if they are not there.

accident · 01-26-2012, 11:49 AM

Most everything I can recall I've gotten from Lee came with decent instructions.Call them at 262-673-3075.Maybe they can help out. Joe

JLA · 01-26-2012, 12:34 PM

same here. Everything i have ever purchased new from Lee precision had detailed instructions.

RandyP · 01-26-2012, 02:05 PM

+1 - ALL my Lee goods came with printed instructions - perhaps it was an open box that some kind soul had pilfered? There is always the possibility that it was simply a screw-up in their packaging department? Stuff happens.

Personally I rely more on their self-help videos.

dbennett48 · 01-26-2012, 02:25 PM

Both of my LEE presses had printed instructions in the box.

joncutt87 · 01-26-2012, 02:43 PM

I bought the anniversary press, so mine came with the second edition reloading manual

JLA · 01-26-2012, 08:17 PM

Thats a good manual to have Jon

76Highboy · 01-26-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

same here. Everything i have ever purchased new from Lee precision had detailed instructions.

Ditto on that.

prof_fate · 01-26-2012, 08:36 PM

Bought from titan reloading - they're just down the street from Lee and the press box had a sticker on it 'pickup by titan 1/18' - so it's less than a week old, the box was well stapled.
They did include their 2012 catalog.

Their website has all the manuals and there's lots of videos on the net to help as well.
Of course I get my new toy and have to work a double and all weekend...so no time to play with it till next monday or tuesday - and I have to build/modify my bench to mount it on so add a day or two...

joncutt87 · 01-26-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

Thats a good manual to have Jon

I've read 6 or 7 times, now I need everything else

JLA · 01-27-2012, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joncutt87

I've read 6 or 7 times, now I need everything else

At least now tho you have an idea of what you need. BTW, I have a spare Hornady 7th ill donate to you. It is another of the essentials IMO. I bought the new hornady 8th a couple months ago and its the hornady 7th + some. So i dont need the 7th anymore. Its yours if you want it. I'll need your address again.

Infidel762 · 01-28-2012, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JLA

At least now tho you have an idea of what you need. BTW, I have a spare Hornady 7th ill donate to you. It is another of the essentials IMO. I bought the new hornady 8th a couple months ago and its the hornady 7th + some. So i dont need the 7th anymore. Its yours if you want it. I'll need your address again.

Does the 8th ed Hornady have loads for .223 in the 75 gr range? I was looking up some information for some trials but it stopped well short of 70 gr. I had to look in the "Service Rifle" section. I know the pressure will be diff if I use that data.

P.S. loads will be used in a target rifle (Bolt).

JLA · 01-28-2012, 05:12 PM

Its still the same infidel. The std rifle data in teh 8th stops with 60 gr bullets and service rifle data covers 68, 75 and 80 gr bullets. Ill scan them right quick..

JLA · 01-28-2012, 05:53 PM

The service rifle data will be safe to use to develop a load for your bolt action. Just start at start and work up carefully.

JLA · 01-28-2012, 05:56 PM

JLA · 01-28-2012, 05:58 PM

And 4 more...

JLA · 01-28-2012, 05:59 PM

And the final page...

prof_fate · 01-28-2012, 06:06 PM

Got the bench built yesterday and mounted the press, began to set it up....my 9mm press came with 38/357 dies in it, plate too. Box is clearly marked "9mm".

We'll see on monday how good Lee's customer service is.

cycloneman · 01-28-2012, 07:03 PM

give them a chance Lee has allways come thru for me. I even had custom dies made from them. They will make it right.

Infidel762 · 01-28-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

And the final page...

Thanks JLA, much appreciated!

JohnTheCalifornian · 01-29-2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by prof_fate

Got the bench built yesterday and mounted the press, began to set it up....my 9mm press came with 38/357 dies in it, plate too. Box is clearly marked "9mm".

We'll see on monday how good Lee's customer service is.

I'm thinking.. Sweet! You got a free set of dies...

01-26-2012, 10:54 AM	#1
prof_fate Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western PA Posts: 143	How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? Since they don't put them in the box with the Loadmaster...you can't complain about how badly written they are. I can however complain that they're not there at all. Yes I found them online, but c'mon - either put them in there or give me something that says where to get them. Assuming I have internet access, a printer, and can find them is going a bit far IMO. -->

01-26-2012, 10:57 AM	#2
steve4102 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Contributor Posts: 2,760	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? Sure you press wasn't opened or used?

01-26-2012, 11:22 AM	#3
X Ring V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 188	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? At least they cant lead you wrong if they are not there. __________________ Load More = Shoot More http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g327/Wynn3/

01-26-2012, 11:49 AM	#4
accident V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: middle GA Posts: 364	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? Most everything I can recall I've gotten from Lee came with decent instructions.Call them at 262-673-3075.Maybe they can help out. Joe __________________ "The strongest reason for the people to retain the Right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." Thomas Jefferson

01-26-2012, 12:34 PM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? same here. Everything i have ever purchased new from Lee precision had detailed instructions. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-26-2012, 02:05 PM	#6
RandyP V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 430	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? +1 - ALL my Lee goods came with printed instructions - perhaps it was an open box that some kind soul had pilfered? There is always the possibility that it was simply a screw-up in their packaging department? Stuff happens. Personally I rely more on their self-help videos. __________________ Lee Anniversary and Lee Classic 4-Hole Turret, presently reloading .380, 7.62 Nagant (32-20), 9mm and 45ACP

01-26-2012, 02:25 PM	#7
dbennett48 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ukiah, California Posts: 73	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? Both of my LEE presses had printed instructions in the box. __________________ The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win – cheat if necessary. Two Glock 9mm's, Ruger LC9, Kimber Custom II .45ACP, Ruger 10/22, 12 ga. pump shotgun, and Rem .243 WIN. I reload all of my guns, except the shotgun.

01-26-2012, 02:43 PM	#8
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? I bought the anniversary press, so mine came with the second edition reloading manual __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

01-26-2012, 08:17 PM	#9
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? Thats a good manual to have Jon __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-26-2012, 08:36 PM	#11
prof_fate Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western PA Posts: 143	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? Bought from titan reloading - they're just down the street from Lee and the press box had a sticker on it 'pickup by titan 1/18' - so it's less than a week old, the box was well stapled. They did include their 2012 catalog. Their website has all the manuals and there's lots of videos on the net to help as well. Of course I get my new toy and have to work a double and all weekend...so no time to play with it till next monday or tuesday - and I have to build/modify my bench to mount it on so add a day or two...

01-28-2012, 05:12 PM	#15
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? Its still the same infidel. The std rifle data in teh 8th stops with 60 gr bullets and service rifle data covers 68, 75 and 80 gr bullets. Ill scan them right quick.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-28-2012, 06:06 PM	#20
prof_fate Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western PA Posts: 143	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? Got the bench built yesterday and mounted the press, began to set it up....my 9mm press came with 38/357 dies in it, plate too. Box is clearly marked "9mm". We'll see on monday how good Lee's customer service is.

01-28-2012, 07:03 PM	#21
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: How can anyone say Lee directions are bad? give them a chance Lee has allways come thru for me. I even had custom dies made from them. They will make it right. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?