Synthetic lubes and cleaners - The Firearms Forum

sigpro2022 · 01-28-2012, 09:10 AM

I just purchased a Sig Sauer pistol, it came with Mil Comm's TW25B grease. I tried it and loved it. Any opinions on using synthetic lube and cleaners? I've always been a Hoppe's 9 fan and Rem Oil or WD40. I've tried the gun grease that came with my Sig on my Glock and Beretta, also using it on my Bushmaster M4.

Has anyone had any bad reactions to using these synthetic products?

sctt77 · 01-28-2012, 10:37 AM

ive always used what you said can remember my grandpa always said dont need nothin but the40

ozo · 01-28-2012, 10:41 AM

Synthetic lubes surround me in my world.......they are superb !
The 25B is good lube, although I personally don't like the residue
it leaves. I prefer an 'oil' viscosity[wipe on-wipe off],
not a grease as it tends more to 'collect' dirt and dust
particles.
Many of us here use SBGO......and after many, many tests,
continue to swear by it, as the residue left behind after vigorous
wiping, not only continues to lube and protect well, but doesn't
attract dust and the such.
I use other oils as well in certain applications, but I NEVER
use WD40 around-in-on any of my arms.

old semperfi · 01-29-2012, 01:22 AM

synthetic is the way to go.they dont tend to build up as pertroleum products do. old semperfi

Doug B. · 01-29-2012, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozo

Synthetic lubes surround me in my world.......they are superb !

I use other oils as well in certain applications, but I NEVER
use WD40 around-in-on any of my arms.

I agree 100%!

LDBennett · 01-29-2012, 06:58 AM

It makes little difference which lube you use as long as:

-you don't use too much

-you clean the gun after EVERY range session

Regular cleaning, like after every range session, keeps any glop the lubricant may develop from accumulating unless the shooting session is one heck of long shooting-fest.

Good old Hoppe's gun oil serves me well. I still use Hoppe's #9 and MPro 7, my solvent tank, and Sweet's, OTIS's solvent, and several other cleaners. They all work, some better than others. But the cleaning exercise is much easier when all you have to remove is a shooting day's worth of crude.

As an aside, the master gunsmith that does most of the AGI videos for particular guns uses Simple Green, first soaoking the gun parts in it for several minutes, then rinsing it with clear water. He follow that with a drying in the oven on LOW or with compressed air or even a hair dryer. He then thoroughly soaks the gun parts in Break Free, lets them sit in it for a few minutes and then wipes them off before reassembling the gun. To each his own!

LDBennett

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 01-29-2012, 09:51 AM

WD40 is a strong cleaner and rust remover. Blueing is a form of controlled rusting that protects the surface from real rust. I use whichever lube is available, sometimes Remington, sometimes Breakaway lube. As for cleaners, I usually use Hoppes #9, especially when I have 2 bottles and a vial of it.

76Highboy · 01-29-2012, 10:08 AM

Both are effective, but I think the synthetics have the edge. In the desert where I shoot, the dust is amazingly fine. It is as fine as volcanic dust, which gets into everything. It is hard on the action of any gun. Some of my guns have polished moving parts, and you can tell the difference when they get gritty. It just seems as though the synthetics don't get the buildup of crud as much. But, I like Hoppes #9 for cleaning.

76Highboy · 01-29-2012, 10:12 AM

Also, one last thought. When I sharpen my knives, I like to use Rem Oil on my fine stone. It puts a smoother edge on the knife as opposed to honing oil or 3-in-1 oil because it doesn't sludge up as bad. It's just a little cleaner and smoother in my opinion.

jeffadaklin · 01-29-2012, 02:32 PM

There's an article in the new Combat Handguns that tells about cleaning your handgun, and lubrication. They gu goes into great detail, but the lubrication is what I found- questionable. There's a photo of a 1911 there, but he never says the article is for cleaning them. Near the end he talks about getting lube into the trigger mechanism, and then applying grease to the slide at the obvious places. But he says 'and whatever grease spills out on to the side of the pistol can be wiped off.' I would never put that much grease in my polymer striker-fired Ruger or S&W. Maybe I'm missing something...
BTW I've also heard horror stories ( this is worth exactly what it cost you :-) about WD40 ruining finishes on some guns- hand- or long-.

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 01-29-2012, 04:52 PM

Grease in a poly handgun? Never hear of that, either. The only thing I use on my XD9 is either Hoppes (on the slide and barrel) and/or a one of those silicon cleaning clothes.

jack404 · 01-29-2012, 04:57 PM

SBGO all the way here ( but i'm biased )

langenc · 01-29-2012, 04:59 PM

TW25B=$48/8 ounces

hansom · 01-31-2012, 03:10 AM

THe WD in WD 40 stands for water dispersant it is not even a cleaner, REmoil is crap and the active ingredient in in hoppes is Kerosene you can make it yourself, dont buy a $800 Gun then "clean it " with crap.

TW25/Kleenbore is top notch stuff , i personally tested it myself, put it my freezer for 2 weeks and it wouldnt freeze and remain the same consistency afterwards, i did the same for Shooters choice, but the absolute best synthetic is Eezox, not cheap but its the best and it smells like mens cologne so your wife wont throw you out of the house when you clean your guns.
Sorry i'm a straight shooter!

jeffadaklin · 01-31-2012, 10:47 AM

Started to add I use Eezox, too. I've seen it highly recommended in several places. I also use the spray CLP cleaner- spray it into the barrel, guide-rod, sometimes into the trigger housing. But kinda hate to do that, afraid I won't get it good and dry and then have gunk accumulating in there. On the lube-spots usually I use OUTERS Gun Lube- gun oil- whatever they call it.

Double D · 01-31-2012, 01:13 PM

Many of you newer folks are not aware of Silver Bullet Gun Oil (SBGO) as we refer to it here at TFF. If you want to try some of the best oil on the market, go to our own CW GRIPS store here at TFF and see Carl for a bottle. I think you may find you will be done with the rem oil afterwards.

cpttango30 · 01-31-2012, 04:05 PM

Why are people so obsessed with cleaning every time you go to the range? I clean about 3 times a year or more if the gun manfunctions. I am lazy and my guns all run perfectly.

As for lube I use Wilson moly grease and Mobil 1 0w30.

76Highboy · 01-31-2012, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Many of you newer folks are not aware of Silver Bullet Gun Oil (SBGO) as we refer to it here at TFF. If you want to try some of the best oil on the market, go to our own CW GRIPS store here at TFF and see Carl for a bottle. I think you may find you will be done with the rem oil afterwards.

Thanks Dan.

hansom · 02-01-2012, 02:15 AM

Yes i would recommend grease for polymer guns too except the Ruger P95 which does not ride on metal rails, i put grease on my Sigpro too and all my Glocks, just the rails though everywhere else get G96 oil and or Eezoz.

All metal Sigs should get grease, there is a reason why Sig includes a tube of grease in their New Gun boxes.

hansom · 02-01-2012, 02:29 AM

Yes i would recommend grease for polymer guns too except the Ruger P95 which does not ride on metal rails, i put grease on my Sigpro too and all my Glocks, just the rails though everywhere else get G96 oil and or Eezoz.

All metal Sigs should get grease, there is a reason why Sig includes a tube of grease in their New Gun boxes.

01-28-2012, 09:10 AM	#1
sigpro2022 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Moselle, Mississippi Posts: 4	Synthetic lubes and cleaners I just purchased a Sig Sauer pistol, it came with Mil Comm's TW25B grease. I tried it and loved it. Any opinions on using synthetic lube and cleaners? I've always been a Hoppe's 9 fan and Rem Oil or WD40. I've tried the gun grease that came with my Sig on my Glock and Beretta, also using it on my Bushmaster M4. Has anyone had any bad reactions to using these synthetic products? -->

01-28-2012, 10:37 AM	#2
sctt77 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: wash pa Posts: 73	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners ive always used what you said can remember my grandpa always said dont need nothin but the40

01-28-2012, 10:41 AM	#3
ozo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 2,770	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Synthetic lubes surround me in my world.......they are superb ! The 25B is good lube, although I personally don't like the residue it leaves. I prefer an 'oil' viscosity[wipe on-wipe off], not a grease as it tends more to 'collect' dirt and dust particles. Many of us here use SBGO......and after many, many tests, continue to swear by it, as the residue left behind after vigorous wiping, not only continues to lube and protect well, but doesn't attract dust and the such. I use other oils as well in certain applications, but I NEVER use WD40 around-in-on any of my arms. __________________ http://www.nranews.com/#/nranews, "ozo. you're off your rocker sir." -johnlives4christ http://www.prisonplanet.com/ -America,Bless GOD-

01-29-2012, 01:22 AM	#4
old semperfi Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: i live in southern indiana,old country boy at heart Posts: 1,506	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners synthetic is the way to go.they dont tend to build up as pertroleum products do. old semperfi

01-29-2012, 06:58 AM	#6
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,710	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners It makes little difference which lube you use as long as: -you don't use too much -you clean the gun after EVERY range session Regular cleaning, like after every range session, keeps any glop the lubricant may develop from accumulating unless the shooting session is one heck of long shooting-fest. Good old Hoppe's gun oil serves me well. I still use Hoppe's #9 and MPro 7, my solvent tank, and Sweet's, OTIS's solvent, and several other cleaners. They all work, some better than others. But the cleaning exercise is much easier when all you have to remove is a shooting day's worth of crude. As an aside, the master gunsmith that does most of the AGI videos for particular guns uses Simple Green, first soaoking the gun parts in it for several minutes, then rinsing it with clear water. He follow that with a drying in the oven on LOW or with compressed air or even a hair dryer. He then thoroughly soaks the gun parts in Break Free, lets them sit in it for a few minutes and then wipes them off before reassembling the gun. To each his own! LDBennett

01-29-2012, 09:51 AM	#7
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,832	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners WD40 is a strong cleaner and rust remover. Blueing is a form of controlled rusting that protects the surface from real rust. I use whichever lube is available, sometimes Remington, sometimes Breakaway lube. As for cleaners, I usually use Hoppes #9, especially when I have 2 bottles and a vial of it. __________________ Long Gun Collection: M38 Mosin-Nagant Carbine Russian 1950 SKS Winchester 1300 20Ga Western Field Single-Shot 16Ga Sears Ranger .22S-L-LR Bolt-Action Rifle Marlin 795 Semi-Auto (Brother's) Handgun Collection: Springfield Armory XD9 Service

01-29-2012, 10:08 AM	#8
76Highboy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Meridian, Idaho Contributor Posts: 6,934	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Both are effective, but I think the synthetics have the edge. In the desert where I shoot, the dust is amazingly fine. It is as fine as volcanic dust, which gets into everything. It is hard on the action of any gun. Some of my guns have polished moving parts, and you can tell the difference when they get gritty. It just seems as though the synthetics don't get the buildup of crud as much. But, I like Hoppes #9 for cleaning.

01-29-2012, 10:12 AM	#9
76Highboy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Meridian, Idaho Contributor Posts: 6,934	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Also, one last thought. When I sharpen my knives, I like to use Rem Oil on my fine stone. It puts a smoother edge on the knife as opposed to honing oil or 3-in-1 oil because it doesn't sludge up as bad. It's just a little cleaner and smoother in my opinion.

01-29-2012, 02:32 PM	#10
jeffadaklin V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SC Posts: 137	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners There's an article in the new Combat Handguns that tells about cleaning your handgun, and lubrication. They gu goes into great detail, but the lubrication is what I found- questionable. There's a photo of a 1911 there, but he never says the article is for cleaning them. Near the end he talks about getting lube into the trigger mechanism, and then applying grease to the slide at the obvious places. But he says 'and whatever grease spills out on to the side of the pistol can be wiped off.' I would never put that much grease in my polymer striker-fired Ruger or S&W. Maybe I'm missing something... BTW I've also heard horror stories ( this is worth exactly what it cost you :-) about WD40 ruining finishes on some guns- hand- or long-. __________________ Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Last edited by jeffadaklin; 01-29-2012 at 02:35 PM..

01-29-2012, 04:52 PM	#11
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,832	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Grease in a poly handgun? Never hear of that, either. The only thing I use on my XD9 is either Hoppes (on the slide and barrel) and/or a one of those silicon cleaning clothes. __________________ Long Gun Collection: M38 Mosin-Nagant Carbine Russian 1950 SKS Winchester 1300 20Ga Western Field Single-Shot 16Ga Sears Ranger .22S-L-LR Bolt-Action Rifle Marlin 795 Semi-Auto (Brother's) Handgun Collection: Springfield Armory XD9 Service

01-29-2012, 04:57 PM	#12
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners SBGO all the way here ( but i'm biased )

01-29-2012, 04:59 PM	#13
langenc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 406	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners TW25B=$48/8 ounces

01-31-2012, 03:10 AM	#14
hansom Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 81	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners THe WD in WD 40 stands for water dispersant it is not even a cleaner, REmoil is crap and the active ingredient in in hoppes is Kerosene you can make it yourself, dont buy a $800 Gun then "clean it " with crap. TW25/Kleenbore is top notch stuff , i personally tested it myself, put it my freezer for 2 weeks and it wouldnt freeze and remain the same consistency afterwards, i did the same for Shooters choice, but the absolute best synthetic is Eezox, not cheap but its the best and it smells like mens cologne so your wife wont throw you out of the house when you clean your guns. Sorry i'm a straight shooter! Last edited by hansom; 01-31-2012 at 03:12 AM..

01-31-2012, 10:47 AM	#15
jeffadaklin V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SC Posts: 137	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Started to add I use Eezox, too. I've seen it highly recommended in several places. I also use the spray CLP cleaner- spray it into the barrel, guide-rod, sometimes into the trigger housing. But kinda hate to do that, afraid I won't get it good and dry and then have gunk accumulating in there. On the lube-spots usually I use OUTERS Gun Lube- gun oil- whatever they call it. __________________ Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

01-31-2012, 01:13 PM	#16
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,058	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Many of you newer folks are not aware of Silver Bullet Gun Oil (SBGO) as we refer to it here at TFF. If you want to try some of the best oil on the market, go to our own CW GRIPS store here at TFF and see Carl for a bottle. I think you may find you will be done with the rem oil afterwards. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

01-31-2012, 04:05 PM	#17
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Why are people so obsessed with cleaning every time you go to the range? I clean about 3 times a year or more if the gun manfunctions. I am lazy and my guns all run perfectly. As for lube I use Wilson moly grease and Mobil 1 0w30.

02-01-2012, 02:15 AM	#19
hansom Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 81	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Yes i would recommend grease for polymer guns too except the Ruger P95 which does not ride on metal rails, i put grease on my Sigpro too and all my Glocks, just the rails though everywhere else get G96 oil and or Eezoz. All metal Sigs should get grease, there is a reason why Sig includes a tube of grease in their New Gun boxes.

02-01-2012, 02:29 AM	#20
hansom Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 81	Re: Synthetic lubes and cleaners Yes i would recommend grease for polymer guns too except the Ruger P95 which does not ride on metal rails, i put grease on my Sigpro too and all my Glocks, just the rails though everywhere else get G96 oil and or Eezoz. All metal Sigs should get grease, there is a reason why Sig includes a tube of grease in their New Gun boxes.