Silver Bullet Gun Oil test..

[okiefired]

Originally Posted by Boris

I got some more advice I don't think we talked about in this thread yet.

I been around some folks lately that love to use motor oil. It will lube in an emergency just fine but it should not be your go to lube.

Motor oils are 25% additives that are not oil. The detergent additives have polar and non polar ends to the molecule. Water will not attach to the oil, but it will attach to the detergents. What you get is separation and an oil water emulsion. The higher the quality of the oil the faster the detergents separate. It is not measured over a long period of time either. It is measured in the seconds.

Once the oil separates from the water these chemicals will get on your hands, clothes and body. We all know the chemicals in motor oil are not healthy and would not be good for prolonged contact with skin.

Motor oil is also designed for attracting dust dirt and anything that even gets near it adding to the separation problem.

Don't use motor oils on firearms folks. Its nothing but bad news for the firearm and even worse news for you if you come in contact with the separated additives.

Some good reads

http://reliabilityweb.com/index.php/..._oil_and_water

http://www.maintenanceresources.com/...lysis/oa-m.htm

http://www.ngv.com.my/default.asp?pa...geid=543&cac=0

Don't waste your time on motor oil. Use only the highest quality firearm lube you can get. Obviously I use SBGO. Been for a tad over a year now and nothing compares....

Everytime I've seen someone recommend motor oil for firearms its been recommending 100% synthetic (such as Mobil 1) which I believe are all NON detergent. If not, there are many non detergent motor oils available. I have in the past used Mobil 1 on my AR10s and they ran perfect with no adverse effects.
BTW, what finally happened on the shotgun barrel test? No mention of it since the first page of this thread and two other oils were working as good as the SBGO.

[coachwill]

Even if you use synthetic motor oils you still have problems with separation over time and the accumulation of particulates in the oil itself. Motor oil is designed to attract things like this and remove it from the machinery. It is meant to be run through a filtration system in order to remove those particulates from the moving parts and to lubricate but its first job is removal of foreign debris.

Just got my bottle of SBGO to try out and will give it an old school try compared to FrogLube and in conjunction with Dyna-Tek products.

[okiefired]

Originally Posted by coachwill

but its first job is removal of foreign debris..

Thats just simply not true. Oils are developed first and formost to lubricate, detergents and cleaners are added after (if at all) to help them carry contaminates to the filters. No reason for them to "remove dibris" if they cant first reduce friction, heat and wear that would only create contaminants.

Of course you have problems with "accumulation of particles" in the lubrication of a weapon, there's no filtration system. Thats the reason we clean them often.

okie

[76Highboy]

I was gifted an old Remington model 1100 12 guage shotgun and am cleaning it up. I am using this SBGO on it. I don't have any of the cool bottles that JLA has, so I thought I would just share an idea that I use on all my gun oils for applying them lightly, and exactly where you need it.

I use a thin punch and lightly dip it in the oil. After I dip it into the oil, I lightly wipe the punch onto the inside of the bottle until there is just a fine drop on the edge of the punch. Then I gently touch the drop that is left on the punch where I want the oil. When the oil touches the surface of the desried part that is to be oiled only a small fraction of oil will be applied to that part. This is a great way to control the flow of your oil without it running all over. It also keeps you from over-oiling your firearm.

I am excited to start using this SBGO and do intend on putting it through whatever testing that I can.

Sorry about the poor pic quality.

[jack404]

no worries , i have a hypo with SBGO in it , did so for fishing reels ..

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by jack404

no worries , i have a hypo with SBGO in it , did so for fishing reels ..

That is an excellent idea. My way is a poor mans way but I need one of those.

[Jim Duncan]

Hmmm I finally found out about this stuff after all this time..... ordered up a bottle.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by Jim Duncan

Hmmm I finally found out about this stuff after all this time..... ordered up a bottle.

It is good stuff. I used it on my door hinge and it did not run. You will like it.

[Jim Duncan]

I imagine I can find lots of places to put it on my ole Kawasaki.... me thinks I should have ordered two bottles....

[Charles Christensen]

I can add a couple of ideas for light lube application: plastic syringes are used for applying glue in woodworking and can be had by the bag full. Check online at woodworking product sites.

The other is Zen Pipe Cleaners on Amazon. Get the soft ones. They are excellent for slide tracks and firing pin bores.

[bluesea112]

I noticed several of you guys were wanting to create an environment that rust likes. If you want to put SBGO to the ultimate rust proofing test, then there is an easy way to create extreme rust in 24 hours. Just go to walmart and buy 1 lb of chlorine pool shock powder. Open the powder of Chlorine shock and pour it out onto a sheet of paper or into a plastic bowl. Set the Chlorine shock inside a cabinet along with the piece of steel you are using for the test. Be sure to close the cabinet door to keep the chlorine fumes inside with the metal. If not first treated with oil, the steel will be extremely rusted within 24 hours. After 10 days in the cabinet, the metal will be so rusted that it will be flaking and falling apart. Hoppes gun oil will not even protect the metal from rust for 24 hours. I know that from my own experience from owning a swimming pool equipment repair business for a few years. It would be quite impressive if SBGO could protect it in that kind of environment.

WARNING: DO NOT ALLOW ANY GUN OIL TO COME IN CONTACT WITH THE CHLORINE SHOCK. IT WILL CAUSE A CHEMICAL REACTION OVER MINUTES OR HOURS THAT WILL RESULT IN THE SHOCK EVENTUALLY BURSTING INTO FLAMES; JUST LIKE WHEN YOU POUR BRAKE FLUID ON CHLORINE SHOCK.

[bluesea112]

I forgot to mention the original point I was going to make in my post. SBGO works better than motor oil when lubing deck screws. If you are having a problem with the heads of deck screws stripping before you can get them screwed all the way in with your screw gun, then just put a few drops of SBGO on a piece of paper and roll your screws back and forth a couple of times in the oil before you use them. You will never have a stripped head again. Just don't push too hard on the screw gun, because SBGO makes them so slick that you can over drive them deeply into the wood if you are not careful.

[JLA]

Eggsilent idea charles! Now jihadis will go to hell if they walk on my porch.

[jack404]

you let em that far ??

[Boris]

I took a bottle on my last work rotation in a dusty place. If you use too much it will gather dust. So I used less than just a tiny dab and it gathered less. Used the entire bottle as directed. By far the best lube I have used on my own, and work weapons.

[Zane71464]

Here a WHILE back, I ordered a couple of bottles and notice it was different....lighter colored and a lot thinner! The color, no worries, but the lighter SBGO....I like it the way it was.

[Boris]

Originally Posted by okiefired

Everytime I've seen someone recommend motor oil for firearms its been recommending 100% synthetic (such as Mobil 1) which I believe are all NON detergent. If not, there are many non detergent motor oils available. I have in the past used Mobil 1 on my AR10s and they ran perfect with no adverse effects.
BTW, what finally happened on the shotgun barrel test? No mention of it since the first page of this thread and two other oils were working as good as the SBGO.

Its not the detergents, its the Extreme pressure addatives. To get enough in there they have to overbase the additive. Overbased additives in oil have polar bonds, so does water. Water bonds very quickly to these overbased pressure additives. In a closed system like a motor its not a huge issue, and any water that does get in is cooked off when operating temerature is reached.

Ive been testing this lube for a hot minute now and here is my long term observation.

Works best on weapons that see extreme use like fully automatic weapons and hunting weapons that see extreme use. I been testing Froglube aswell and it is a spectacular lube, but it dont mix well with oil so in an emergency situation you better make sure you packed some spare in a couple different places.

I will keep testing, internals on the Chicom Ithica 37 copy still has original application and its still there and working. New Maverick 88 got a good run through with it and as always a little goes a long way. In two years I will be back to let you all know how that first application is doing on this new test piece that will see nothing but silverbullet.

[Shooter45]

About two years ago, I bought a new STI Spartan 1911 in 9mm. I took the pistol out of the box, tore it down and cleaned out all the factory grease.
Then lubed the pistol with Silver Bullet Gun Oil and put it back together.

I would shoot the pistol, wipe down the outside and put it back in the safe. About every 2,000 rounds, I'd run a BoreSnake through the barrel. I finally had my first malfunction with the pistol at almost 9,000 rounds.
Yes, you read it right. 9,000 rounds before the first malfunction. A simple FTE. I guess the extractor finally got gummed up. It sure took a while.

Now before I would shoot the Spartan, I'd always look it over good but never tear it down. I'd always retract the slide and look at the SBGO shining in the slide ways. It was always there until the last day I shot it.

That was a tough test for a brand new, just out of the box 1911. Only oiled one time before firing then no more.

Well, it's time to clean so I removed the slide and ran my fingers over the slide rails. The slide wasn't dry !! There was still a hint of oil. I haven't stripped the internals out of the frame yet but nothing looked dry. I'm almost tempted to clean the extractor channel and shoot it some more.
But I won't.

As stated before, this is the best oil on the planet. It stays where you put it and a little goes a long way. I recommend Silver Bullet Gun Oil if you like to take care of your weapons. There's nothing like it anywhere.

MidniteRider, you have developed the best weapons oil that I've ever used and I've used it all. Thank you.