whats the best 22 automatic rifle?

[johnlives4christ]

Hi Redbelly. everyone gives their 2cents, here is mine. if you want a 22 semiautomatic, then get just that. coyotes can be taken cleanly with one if you're a decent shot. and i know this next statement will put some into an all out panty twist, but if it was my place and i had a shot on a yote, even if it wasnt clean i would take it. chances are he will die due to his injuries. now the reason i say this is not because i want to be cruel to animals, but because your problem is getting rid of coyotes not hunting them for sport. dont get me wrong though, i wouldnt shoot a deer without a clean shot. but to me i see coyotes in this situation as i would rats in your barn. something that needs to be killed, not game.

as for a rifle choice, i would buy a new marlin 60, they are fine guns, shoot very good and new, dont give much trouble. a used one is someone elses problem a lot of times. marlin's come with a 5 year warranty as well so if you was to tear it up, then you would most likely be coverd. rugers are okay, but the ones i have had malfunctioned more than the marlin, and when you're trying to hit 3 coyotes in a row and they are all on the run, you dont want the gun to jam.

for ammo i would go with quikshok ammo, it splits into 3 pieces after hitting fleshy targets, causing 3 seperate wound channels, thus causing more trama and less chance of a round penetrating clear through and into other undesireable targes (if that is a factor) . federal cheapo will do the job too if you want dirt cheap.

[protosniper]

My choice is the Ruger 10/22 you can MOD them just about any way you want, so many aftermarket parts out there it will drive you nuts. I went with the Buttler Creek Bull Barrel, Hogue Stock etc...etc... Does everything I need it to do out to 80+ yards Quietly with alittle help from Mr. Soundtech hehehehe

[johnlives4christ]

protosniper, curious, is that a silencer or is it just a faker?

[protosniper]

It`s a suppressor did I do something wrong again if I did Im sorry I saw the Walther posted on page one so I though it would be ok to post mine....

[Teejay9]

Has anyone suggested a Ruger 10/22, yet? That would be my choice TJ

[jinn]

Sadly, few remember the wonderful Winchester 63! Discontinued about 1958 (?).

All machined parts, super-reliable, tube-fed in the stock, no plastic, polymer, nylon, bolt manual operation by depressing pin protruding from front handgaurd, also locked bolt open with a twist, nothing sticking out of the side of the receiver, nice, clean lines, walnut stocks.

A real RIFLE. Today, not to be found at yard sales, though.

[Gorillaman]

Originally Posted by Don Buckbee

The 22 Rimfire is not a round for shooting coyotes.

Don

Don is correct you should NOT try to take one with any .22lr.

[bluesea112]

Protosniper, nothing wrong with your post at all. I think "johnlivesforchrist" was impressed with your outfit; not complaining. That is a very nice shooter you have there.

[tim peterson]

If you realy want to kill coyotes you should think about A rifle. Maybe a 22 250 or a 220 swift if you shot coyotes with a 22 there going to run off. The 22MG is better but not much, If you have to use a 22 get a good call and try for shots at around 50 YDS. Marlin is a good rifle, but I would go with a Remington. Thats my 2cents worth good luck !!

[TOOHSOTKIL]

Probably the lowest fire power deemed fit would be the .22mag, and given the days choice.......it would fall to the Remington 597.
Decent price in semi-auto`s and the minimum power factor at 125 yards and under.

[Redhand]

Mossberg mod. 152.

[Danwin22]

Jinn,

I'm with you on the Winchester model-63, it's still on my all-time .22 Want List.

[NY Marksman]

I'd have to go with the Ruger 10/22 simply because unlike any of the others you can make anything you want from it. If you want very accurate custom sporter or a tacticool you can using the 10/22 as a basic platform to start from. No other .22,s have as many after market parts to choose from to satisfy any individuals needs or wants.

[Suicide*Ride]

Originally Posted by redbelly52 - What is the best all around 22 automatic?

Is there a specific reason why you want to get a semi-auto? Is it for quick follow-up shots?

Why limit yourself to rimfire for the type of ammunition? If rimfire ammo is your choice due to economic reasons, may I suggest (as several others already have) a Marlin, model - 783 bolt action, tube magazine, chambered in .22WMR . Remington makes a 33gr. "V-MAX" w/ polymere tip in their "Premier" line. Should be enough power for coyotes.

The reason I recommend a bolt action over a semi-auto is: the bolt is super simple in a bunch of ways. Tube magazine holds more rds. than a detatchable mag., & you'll never drop or lose it (the mag.) while shooting/hunting.

I own several Marlins & swear by all of them. More bang for your buck! (ALL puns intended )

52redbelly, good luck with your quest! Let us know what & why you finally dicide to buy, & how it worked for you.

There's something that has to be said for a firearm that has "Tastefull" modifications.

That said.....,

NY Marksman - WOW! Tried to send you a PM about your Rugers, not able to. Bummer....

Sorry about my off-thread post folks, but I jest gots to know... where did you (NY Marksman) find the awsome furniture on the top 10-22? I've never seen a Ruger emblem engraved into the stock before, & I ... LIKE IT!! Same goes for the emblem on the end of the charging handle. Way cool!!

NY Marksman, if you're reading this & feel like a chat, send me a PM.

[NY Marksman]

Originally Posted by Suicide*Ride

Is there a specific reason why you want to get a semi-auto? Is it for quick follow-up shots?

Why limit yourself to rimfire for the type of ammunition? If rimfire ammo is your choice due to economic reasons, may I suggest (as several others already have) a Marlin, model - 783 bolt action, tube magazine, chambered in .22WMR . Remington makes a 33gr. "V-MAX" w/ polymere tip in their "Premier" line. Should be enough power for coyotes.

The reason I recommend a bolt action over a semi-auto is: the bolt is super simple in a bunch of ways. Tube magazine holds more rds. than a detatchable mag., & you'll never drop or lose it (the mag.) while shooting/hunting.

I own several Marlins & swear by all of them. More bang for your buck! (ALL puns intended )

52redbelly, good luck with your quest! Let us know what & why you finally dicide to buy, & how it worked for you.



That said.....,

NY Marksman - WOW! Tried to send you a PM about your Rugers, not able to. Bummer....
Sorry about my off-thread post folks, but I jest gots to know... where did you (NY Marksman) find the awsome furniture on the top 10-22? I've never seen a Ruger emblem engraved into the stock before, & I ... LIKE IT!! Same goes for the emblem on the end of the charging handle. Way cool!!

NY Marksman, if you're reading this & feel like a chat, send me a PM.

First off I fixed the PM Problem so anyone who wants to contact me now should be able to.
The stock is made by S&K Stocks, they are one of the sponsors over at RimfireCentral.com (and I have been fortunate enough to have had it chosen to be included as part of the the Banner there). The stock is made from what is called Ultra Walnut. It is made from a center core of African Mahogany sandwiched between two pieces of Carbon fiber which is then sandwiched between two pieces of Extra Fancy Walnut.

They're stocks are beautiful and the fit and finish are flawless. They come in either High Gloss or Satin finish and the make other models also. The Ruger Logo was my idea and they laser engraved it for me. As far as I know it was the first ever to be done that way (Although I see that Talo has copied it on some of they're stocks now). The rifle has was also the first ever 10/22 to be featured by Ruger on they're "Tricked out 10/22's" photo gallery on the Ruger website.

Here is a link to a thread about The S&K Stocks and from what is says they have some ready for sale now.
http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=276940

And if you want more info here is they're Website
http://www.sandkgunstocks.com/mm5/me...egory_Code=RUG

Hetre's a better pic of it.

[ampaterry]

My old Marlin Glenfield is jamming constantly, and I have been unable to straighten it out, so decided to replace it.

Not having a ton of $$, I opted for a Mossberg Plinkster, and fitted it with a 3X9 lighted reticle scope -
The whole outfit, tax and background check fee included, set me back $179.

I mounted the scope and sighted it in Monday, and am quite pleased with the results. Feeding it some VERY old .22 lightning rounds, it functioned flawlessly, and proved to be far more accurate than the guy holding it -
50 yard kill shots virtually guaranteed.

But my oh my what a difference in TN gun laws since I bought the Marlin!!
I paid $10 for background check, gave thumbprints, and filled out a two page form. Then went to eat while the INSTANT background check was completed, and when all was settled and paid for, a security guard at Wally World where I bought it had to carry the gun outside before she could give it to me -

I remember when I was about 13 and bought a 7mm Japanese Army rifle and box of shells at a gun shop, and carried it home across the handlebars of my bike without even telling them my name.
And no one thought anything about it.
I miss the good old days!

[exarius]

Originally Posted by Enfield

Hi
I have just got a Walther G22, I have fitted a 40 mill illuminated scope, G3 flashlight and as I have made lots of suppressors I have made and fitted an over barrel one.

It may seem a bit over the top but we do alot of nigth shooting here for pests

I have only had the gun a couple of weeks but so far am very pleased, I know the Ruger is a well proven design but but it did come out in the 1960's and I think the Bulpup style is a good way forward.

I do however understand that it won't appeal to every one

See photos

All the best

Enfield in NZ

OH GOD I WANT ONE!!! Thats sweet! but to be clear is that a .22 MAG? and what are the mods you added, and arnt silencers illegal? How would one go about getting one for the g22? I work in the oil field....we arnt supposed to have guns....but being in the middle of nowhere with 100's of thousands of dollars in oil on location....i want to know that if someone decides to try to get a payday, if that mean looking rifle doesnt deter them, a nice solid bullet in the ass will, or if a havilena pig wanders onto location and wont leave, i can kill it quietly without anyone being the wiser.

[jack404]

silencers in New Zealand are legal and considered a sign of a polite shooter , who can pop a bunny in his garden at dawn and not wake his neighbour , as it should be ...

they had a Lady Pm there for a while who's record shows she never once met with a anti gun lobbyist or advocate ( so never got bought ) ..

[whichfinger]

Originally Posted by Contenderizer

WHOA everyone, Redbelly wants to shoot coyotes! There are much better choices for that than a 22 rimfire. As they say, "Never go to a gun fight with just a knife." He should seriously consider something in the a 22 centerfire class. Perhaps a 223 Rem.

Having said that, if it must be a 22 rimfire the Marlin M-60 would be my choice. There is nothing wrong with the 10/22, except that you can spend three times what you paid for it on modifications ... and I'm just stupid enough to do it.

And really, all the guys giving a shout-out to centerfires are right. It's easy to wound a 'yote with a 22LR and have die an agonizing death if you're into that sort of thing. A .22 Mag would be the least you should use.

Originally Posted by TOOHSOTKIL

Probably the lowest fire power deemed fit would be the .22mag, and given the days choice.......it would fall to the Remington 597.
Decent price in semi-auto`s and the minimum power factor at 125 yards and under.

And Remington 597M is the only semiauto 22 Mag currently manufactured. Don't discount bolt- or lever-actions, though.

[doubs43]

To kill a coyote with a .22LR will require an accurate rifle that puts it's first shot where you want it. A .22 magnum would be the better choice but if you insist on a .22LR, I'll offer two suggestions that are known to be accurate without a lot of extra cost.

My first choice would be a CZ-512. Bud's Guns has them for $417 shipped. They will use 5 or 10 round mags. They are also available in .22 mag at a higher price. CZ rifles are top drawer and to do better will cost you several times the money.

Second would be a TC Classic. Again, not cheap but those I've shot have been very accurate.

If you're not set in concrete for a semi-auto, then consider the CZ-455 combo in .22LR and .17HMR. You could add a .22 mag barrel later. Buds has the combo for $481 shipped. The CZ will last many generations if given even minimal care.

[doubs43]

Originally Posted by whichfinger

Remington 597M is the only semiauto 22 Mag currently manufactured.

The CZ-512 is made in .22 mag.

[CJ_56]

AS far as bolt guns go, my Savage Mk II BTV will shoot better than my CZ 453. Not by a lot but it was much cheaper. Both are great rifles and I will be holding onto each for many years to come. And before I hear about how CZ's are built better I'll point out that my CZ has had all sorts of problems since I bought it ranging from a bolt that sticks completely and rust on the barrel among other things. I've pretty much eliminated those problems though by switching to another oil for protecting the finish and using a little gun grease on the bolt at the right spot. I've also had problems with the two stage trigger not firing when I pull the set trigger. They aren't perfect rifles and I do believe a person can match their quality with other rifles at about the same price or even less. It all depends on what piece you want to be quality.

[doubs43]

Originally Posted by CJ_56

AS far as bolt guns go, my Savage Mk II BTV will shoot better than my CZ 453.

So what kind of groups are you talking at 50 yards and how consistently can you do it?

Any suggestion that the Savage fit, finish and build quality is on a par with a CZ is demonstrably wrong. A fair comparison of them will show that to be a fact. I have a Savage BTVXP thumbhole laminated stock rifle in excellent condition that I'll sell for $300. The closest model Savage sells today is retail priced at, or over, $400.

I won't debate that Savage rifles will shoot. Some will. But, the average Savage won't shoot better than the average CZ. Your conclusion that your Savage will outshoot the CZ-453 may, or may not, be correct. I have no way of knowing how much effort you've put into finding the best cartridge for each. I don't know your skill level or any other facts that might influence the outcome.

But, it's your money so you buy whatever suits you. In 10, 15 or 20 years, see which of your two rifles will bring the better return on your cost.

[CCHolderinMaine]

A Ruger 10/22 is always a great choice in .22

[Hawg]

Originally Posted by CCHolderinMaine

A Ruger 10/22 is always a great choice in .22

Not if you want decent accuracy right out of the box. As a platform for a custom it can't be beat but you have to spend some bucks to make it shoot as well as a Marlin model 60 does right out of the box.