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Old 04-15-2012, 05:21 PM   #26
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What a chore to take on for a relative stranger. Kudos...Gonna be great to watch.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:51 AM   #27
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Ordered parts today the only thing I could not find is the fireing pin.
Tried Numrich and Jack first and a coulple of others NO LUCK so I will have to do some work with what I have.
There are a few guns that are the same thing like the FIE. But they don't have them for those eather.
OH WELL I'll get it to work
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:14 AM   #28
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Ok got the parts today Goofy will take pics and sort it all with you

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Old 05-09-2012, 06:26 AM   #29
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WOW that got to you fast!!
Thanks for your help jack.
The gun is stripped and ready for paint and the oven,metal is getting ready for the tank and the wood is stripped and ready for the checkering.
So it should not be long
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:35 AM   #30
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Ok

got it sorted i hope , now to confirm this all


part 1 is the new collar, you need the pin slot machined into the side to match original
part 2 it the original
part 3 is the firing pin you need replicated and i'll make the actual striker 0.5 mm longer than provided and the pin shaft must be made slightly larger than the original to match the slightly larger hole in part 1 and that the pin end be cased hardened to 63 rockwell ( +/- 1 point)

and you need a spring of 4 pounds medial compression with a 3/16 th's " ( sorry translating from metric to inch i screwed up i had 3/64ths before) travel to fit between the firing pin and the collar

please confirm or correct where needed
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:41 AM   #31
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now to match the thread on the rear will delay me , i dont have that thread

i do have the guage for it and its a 120 pitch per inch but not the die to cut it , a day or 3 getting one up from melbourne but no hassle , the Niagra agent here is melbourne based and i'v the cataloge right here , i'll phone em in the morning

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Old 05-09-2012, 06:46 AM   #32
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and size compared to a match head
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:56 AM   #33
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Yes what you said is correct.In your 1st thread.
I have the spring.
The thread that you are referring to is that on the bottom(referring to your pic.)
of the pin?
I am not sure why it is threaded that is the end that goes through the frame and is struck by the hammer it floats just like the top(the striker "pin") side.
It is NOT threaded in at all. I am not sure why it looks like or is threaded I believe it should be smooth to slide in and out when struck by the hammer.The pin floats back and forth held in by the cup#1 that is pinned into the receiver which has a hole for the back of the pin to fit threw so the hammer will hit it and force the pin forward to strike the cartage.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:05 AM   #34
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does this help?
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:30 AM   #35
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ok what i think they have done is thread it too fine for a thread but great for a grease grip , and yes its on the bottom of the FP in the pic part 3

the new one will be smooth .. we have SBGO

and happy you have the spring , real happy

ok will chop in in the morning and not worry about matching the thread
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:34 AM   #36
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GREAT!
Thanks again Jack it is nice of you that you are taking out of your time and experience to help out.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:52 AM   #37
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:59 AM   #38
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Thank you to both of you.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:23 AM   #39
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No problem. I love to do stuff like this.
It's fun to bring back a gun from the dead.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:27 PM   #40
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yes it is ..
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:35 PM   #41
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bringing it back from the dead. heck it was mumafied.
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narr , just in stasis waiting for someone to breath life back into it ...
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Ok pins done and its a nice fit for the collar, pic's when i get the batteries recharged

i'll do the collar tomorrow , cause i've a question

the two collars are differing lengths but thats easy to file level so i'll leave it ,

or match it, your call , no worries to me either way

the face of the original is worn , a lot so i'm thinking to add 1 thousands of a inch to the measurement to cut the pin relief to bring it back to what i think was original before the wear ,

thoughts ? its what i'd normally do and rarely have to crack out the 600 grade wet and dry sticks to take pressure off, but thats the down side and i wont know that until i send it back to you and you fit it , so am asking what ya think ..

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Old 05-10-2012, 04:53 AM   #44
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That sounds good jack.I can do the final fitting when I put it together.The new collar looks longer on the bottom ware it looks tappered so what do you think about splitting the difference and I can take off from both ends intill it fits? Do I have enough steel on the top to work with (if I need to take off some)?
Or do you think that the retaining pin cut should be equal distance as the old one from the top and just take off the bottom intill it fits?
After reading what i typed maybe the 2nd idea is better .
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:59 AM   #45
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that bevel on the rear will make that real easy , or thats what i was thinking

ok i've got it set up in the mill now , i just gotta do a remeasure in the morning and take the stroke , i'll get it on its way back to you tomorrow afternoon

i've lousy lighting for night work
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:18 AM   #46
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Sounds GREAT! Get some sleep and enjoy your night(or enjoy your night then get some sleep)
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8:33 PM here atm

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Old 05-10-2012, 06:28 AM   #48
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Time difference is a trip I am having my morning coffee and you are drinking a night cap
What day is it there its the 10th here? So are you at my tonight or tomorrow night.
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edit tonight for you , yep the 10th here was a ok day eh enjoy!
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Heck of a job you guys are doing! My hats off to all three of you.
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