Hornady XTP 300 gr In 44 Spec???? - The Firearms Forum

jlloyd73 · 05-26-2012, 11:38 AM

I was wondering if you guys could help me out. I cannot find any information on this, I think this bullet is too heavy for a 44 spec, but I do not know.

I have 25 bullets (Hornady XTP 300 grain) that were given to me. I was wondering if I could load them into a 44 spec case. I cannot find any load data for anything larger than 250 gr for the 44 spec. That leads me to assume that these are more for the 44 Mag.

The pistol these would be going through has a very short barrel, maybe 2".

What are your guys thoughts on this?

carver · 05-26-2012, 01:17 PM

The SAAMI maxiumum pressure standard for the 44 SW special is 15,500 PSI. My book shows that 5.8 grains of AA No. 2 under a 200 BAR XPB (solid copper), will give you 884fps, with a PSI of 15,430! I would suggest that you save those 300 gr. bullets for the .44 mag.

76Highboy · 05-26-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

The SAAMI maxiumum pressure standard for the 44 SW special is 15,500 PSI. My book shows that 5.8 grains of AA No. 2 under a 200 BAR XPB (solid copper), will give you 884fps, with a PSI of 15,430! I would suggest that you save those 300 gr. bullets for the .44 mag.

Ya, I agree. I shoot 44 spl and that 300gr. is definalely a magnum projectile.

JLA · 05-27-2012, 01:25 AM

Actually they are even a bit too heavy for .44 mag IMO. more suited to the .444 marlin.

Old Grump · 05-27-2012, 11:32 AM

Double Tap 300 gr ammo fresh off the UPS truck on a nice cold day taken right out of the box loaded and shot at 25 yards with one hand offhand standing. First time I ever shot anything in my Ruger Super Blackhawk but 180 gr and 240 grain and I am a believer. The last time I had shot that gun was at 100 yards in a stiff wind and my sights were still adjusted for that. Near as I can figure out velocity is around 1300 fps and not as bad to shoot as the 180 grain ammo. That being said they are over pressure loads in a 44 spcl at 800 fps and higher velocities and I would be very careful about what I shot it in unless you loaded it down to about 600 fps. I would think the data for your XTP would be about the same as for my Double Tap.

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jlloyd73 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,938	Hornady XTP 300 gr In 44 Spec???? I was wondering if you guys could help me out. I cannot find any information on this, I think this bullet is too heavy for a 44 spec, but I do not know. I have 25 bullets (Hornady XTP 300 grain) that were given to me. I was wondering if I could load them into a 44 spec case. I cannot find any load data for anything larger than 250 gr for the 44 spec. That leads me to assume that these are more for the 44 Mag. The pistol these would be going through has a very short barrel, maybe 2". What are your guys thoughts on this? __________________ --------------------------------------------------- The only thing better than good family is good friends. J and D Lloyd Get ready...it's getting "real" and really fast! -->

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carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,542	Re: Hornady XTP 300 gr In 44 Spec???? The SAAMI maxiumum pressure standard for the 44 SW special is 15,500 PSI. My book shows that 5.8 grains of AA No. 2 under a 200 BAR XPB (solid copper), will give you 884fps, with a PSI of 15,430! I would suggest that you save those 300 gr. bullets for the .44 mag. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

05-27-2012, 01:25 AM	#4
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,407	Re: Hornady XTP 300 gr In 44 Spec???? Actually they are even a bit too heavy for .44 mag IMO. more suited to the .444 marlin. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

05-27-2012, 11:32 AM	#5
Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,320	Re: Hornady XTP 300 gr In 44 Spec???? Double Tap 300 gr ammo fresh off the UPS truck on a nice cold day taken right out of the box loaded and shot at 25 yards with one hand offhand standing. First time I ever shot anything in my Ruger Super Blackhawk but 180 gr and 240 grain and I am a believer. The last time I had shot that gun was at 100 yards in a stiff wind and my sights were still adjusted for that. Near as I can figure out velocity is around 1300 fps and not as bad to shoot as the 180 grain ammo. That being said they are over pressure loads in a 44 spcl at 800 fps and higher velocities and I would be very careful about what I shot it in unless you loaded it down to about 600 fps. I would think the data for your XTP would be about the same as for my Double Tap. __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA