Zimmerman, only person who defended black homeless

[jack404]

Zimmerman complained about Sanford police in 2011

By KYLE HIGHTOWER
Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- George Zimmerman accused the Sanford police department of corruption more than a year before he shot Trayvon Martin, saying at a public forum the agency covered up the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white officer.

"I would just like to state that the law is written in black and white," Zimmerman said during a 90-second statement to city commissioners at a community forum. "It should not and cannot be enforced in the gray for those who are in the thin blue line."

The forum took place on Jan. 8, 2011, days after a video of the beating went viral on the Internet and then-Sanford Police Chief Brian Tooley was forced to retire. Tooley's department faced criticism for dragging its feet in arresting Justin Collison, the son of a police lieutenant.

"I'd like to know what action the commission is taking in order to repeal Mr. Tooley's pension," Zimmerman said to the commission. "I'm not asking you to repeal his pension; I believe he's already forfeited his pension by his illegal cover-up in corruption in what happened in his department."

Zimmerman's public comments could be important because the Martin family and supporters contend the neighborhood watch volunteer singled Martin out because he was black. Zimmerman has a Peruvian mother and a white father. His supporters have said he is not racist.

The Miami Herald first reported details from the January 2011 community forum Wednesday. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the tape from the meeting.

In the speech, Zimmerman said he witnessed "disgusting" behavior by officers when he was part of a ride-along program, though the agency said it did not know when, if ever, Zimmerman was in that program.

"The officer showed me his favorite hiding spots for taking naps. He explained to me he doesn't carry a long gun in his vehicle because in his words, `Anything that requires a long gun requires a lot of paperwork and you're gonna find me as far away from it.'"

Zimmerman also said the officer in question "took two lunch breaks and attended a going away party for one of his fellow officers."

Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett and interim police chief Richard Myers were both unavailable for comment.

Zimmerman is free on bond awaiting his second-degree murder trial for shooting Martin. Martin was walking back to a townhome he was staying at when he got into a fight with Zimmerman, who shot him in the chest at close range.

Zimmerman, who claims the Feb. 26 shooting was self-defense, was initially not arrested. But after protests around the country and an investigation by a state prosecutor, he was charged.

Tooley's successor, Bill Lee, temporarily resigned his post following a no-confidence vote by city commissioners.

Lee offered to resign permanently, but his commissioners turned down his request. He is on paid leave.

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ok some mnore to this on Scribd is a letter Zimmermans family sent to the NAACP who despite knowing zimmerman was not a racist , stated they knew he was from "previous incursions"

his previous incursion as they put it was standing up and trying to get the black community to help one of their own

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/876...1qlw8e49hzb9mn

[graehaven]

I fear the truths will come to light too late to save Zimmerman.

[Awtoman]

I wouldn't want to be Zimmerman. He is now a pawn for the powers-that-be. They'll hang him if they believe that will prevent another L.A. style riot, with no regard for his innocence or guilt.

Tom

[raven818]

Amazing what's coming to light since that happened. I'm lovin it.

[cycloneman]

I cant wait for Al Sharpton and Jessie to get a hold of this. I would pay one dollar to see their faces when they read this.

[Charles Christensen]

OK, Zimmerman is a great guy, a pillar of the universe and due all kinds of praise for his service to the community. That still does not change the fact that on the night in question he did something he should not have done: He confronted an unknown person in the dark for no good reason other than his own panic and imagination. That unknown person believed he was in danger of bodily harm and defended himself. The unknown person, because of his youth and good physical condition, was getting the better of Zimmerman. Zimmerman then panicked again and pulled his gun. Zimmerman had no legitimate reason to confront Martin and was told not to by the police. I do not believe that racism had anything to do with this incident, just very bad judgment.

There have been very rare occasions when I have carried a gun. I have always felt nervous about it. There was a certain comfort provided by the extra weight when I was in particular areas but I never felt any sense of power or overt readiness to pull the trigger. What is that saying, something about the best safety mechanism a gun has is between the ears?

[jack404]

He confronted an unknown person in the dark for no good reason other than his own panic and imagination.

proof please , witness statements police reports psych reports ??

you've condemed zimmerman before any jury

i think hes a fool too , but i dont get a right to hang the poor sucker before all the facts are coming out and they are still coming as to your other starement

thats looking awful shaky too as they state they have traced trayvons path and its looking like he blind sided zimmerman , ran to a passageway in the complex , cut throuigh and cut him off from returning to his car , he had moved 240 meters closer to his car ( police confirm that via GPS whilst they where talking to him , talk to the cops on digital and they all your info ..)

trayvon they follow buy foot impressions ... they did not get all but have his shoes most of the way , the shortcut dont leave impressions nor does the car park .. but trayvon doubled back caught out zimmerman when he was moving towards his car

anyway

your reason to hang zimmerman before the trial and make statements that are biased one sided and put him in the dimmest light on no proof is ??

[armoredman]

OK, Zimmerman is a great guy, a pillar of the universe and due all kinds of praise for his service to the community. That still does not change the fact that on the night in question he may or may not have committed an offense, one that has not yet been proven or disproved in a court of law.: He had an altercation with an unknown person in the dark that nobody has proven or disproven who started the altercation while Mr Zimmerman was acting as the Captain of the Neighborhood Watch. That both individuals believed he was in danger of bodily harm and defended himself. The unknown person, because of his youth and good physical condition, and the drugs in his system, from the medical examiner's reportwas getting the better of Zimmermanand was capable of causing death or serious physical injury with repeated blows to the head. Zimmerman then realized he was in danger of death or serious bodily injury and utilized a lawfully carried sidearm in self defense. Zimmerman had no legitimate reason to confront Martin,other than following the duties of the Nieghborhood Watch he had been appointed to by his neighbors and was suggested not to by a non POST certified, non LEO 911 dispatcher, which he immediately complied with, judging by the recorded and GPS evidence.. I do not believe that racism had anything to do with this incident, just very bad judgment on both parties involved.

Fixed it for ya. Nothing we say or do will do anything but fan the flames around the media frenzy. This will be decided in a court of law, by the evidence, which I do have to say BASED SOLELY ON THAT EVIDENCE RELEASED BY THE COURTS it looks as if Mr Zimmerman's story is quite a bit closer to the truth than thought of previously.

[raven818]

Originally Posted by jack404

proof please , witness statements police reports psych reports ??

you've condemed zimmerman before any jury

anyway

your reason to hang zimmerman before the trial and make statements that are biased one sided and put him in the dimmest light on no proof is ??

Your expecting proof/documentation/links for that accusation? Not likely. WTG.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by armoredman

Fixed it for ya. Nothing we say or do will do anything but fan the flames around the media frenzy. This will be decided in a court of law, by the evidence, which I do have to say BASED SOLELY ON THAT EVIDENCE RELEASED BY THE COURTS it looks as if Mr Zimmerman's story is quite a bit closer to the truth than thought of previously.

That's gonna leave a mark.

[permafrost]

Anyone notice how quiet the MSM has become since the good things about Zimmerman have started surfacing? Chirp....Chirp....Chirp.....

[jack404]

totally .. its vile cowardice

[jack404]

1 zimmerman had a cellphone camera , shoulda filmed and otherwise obtained evidence of his suspicion, dumb dumb dumb

2 we hear no confrontation , so the guy with the gun starts beating a guy he's calmly spoke too ? its looking like zimmerman calls for help , and theres martins DNA on zimmermans gun on the slide ..

if he allowed a suspect to get within his draw circle without drawing he's a idiot

or a fool who got sucked in by a play by a preditor that ended a fail for the preditor

we'll just have to wait till it;s all out

[Charles Christensen]

I have not heard that Martin was doing anything other than walking through the neighborhood (still not illegal here) and I have heard the audio of the police telling Zimmerman not to confront Martin. There does not appear to be any reason for Zimmerman to have confronted Martin.

There are no eyewitness reports that Martin was doing anything illegal. I believe Zimmerman acted out of imagined problems and backed up his thinking with bad judgment. Just because HE-WAS-ONE-OF-US and had a concealed carry permit does not mean he was incapable of error.

Why is it I get this crawly feeling that there are a lot of people on this forum that think Zimmerman is a saint for shooting a black kid? He made a mistake. He was not battling the forces of evil except in his mind.

[jack404]

I believe

arh no facts

then our view is just as valid ..

i or no-one here has beatified zimmerman , i think he's a idiot

but idiocy does not mean criminality even in self defence .
end of story

wait for the facts

if not start a lynch mob , they'll be plenty of great folks wanting to join in

see years ago some aussie troops were called war criminals

the US threatened to break of ties and screw us on trade ( and did ) over their support of the khmer rouge who it was said , fighting the viet cong .. but australia was fighting their still with the loyalist troops and militia's against the KR , those wonderful peaceful socialist folks in Kampuchea

remember how that went ? ( besides under the carpet)

similar thing happened in Rwanda , more under the carpet...

just as well they didn't hang me on the spot or there'd be more to sweep under the carpet

i was one of the aussies , .. never jump in too early folks , you can hang innocent folks and thats why we try to have a Christian /judeo based legal system

but if its kangaroo courts you want , line up outside where zimmerman is and drag him out and hang him ..

along with the NBPP
all those former ACORN groups
the nation of islam

yep fine fine company ...

and all righteous folks i'm sure .... i'll wager they'll even share the price of the rope with ya ..

get a good stout rope that'll do a lot of hangins.. so these righteous groups can kill all the rest of them crackers and chuck pigs that be holding them back all these years

[jack404]

and it is unjust to take a self defence case , promote it racially while also upping it to a 2nd degree murder ( which means he waited for trayvon)

i think thats what most here are upset about

another special interest group cowing the main stream society by screaming victim when a bad kid does something stupid that results in him getting killed

the kid martin boasts of dealing

holding $14,000 cash and his "rack" for FB pic;s

talking to girls who call him the next day and he say you give it up to easy dont complain now ..

organising drugs via FB with friends

going to fight club wasted and smacking some pig ( white person) cause it was da thang yo do ( if i got that right )

2 idots met that night , tragedy

not criminal

and not 2nd M

if they gave zimmerman 1000 hours community service looking after the martin family , it may teach him what guns can do better

but after all this i hope he gets the best laywers on the planet and they sue the police the state and all them special interest groups who rallied for his death , who called for racisl war and that the state then gets off its butt to save it and then locks all them haters up.. and makes millions ... books and movie rights too!!

because people have spread nothing but lies about him with immunity ..

and we are sick of it

there can be no fair trial

only fair is to walk zimmerman ..

sorry thats how i see it

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by Charles Christensen

I have not heard that Martin was doing anything other than walking through the neighborhood (still not illegal here) and I have heard the audio of the police telling Zimmerman not to confront Martin. There does not appear to be any reason for Zimmerman to have confronted Martin.

There are no eyewitness reports that Martin was doing anything illegal. I believe Zimmerman acted out of imagined problems and backed up his thinking with bad judgment. Just because HE-WAS-ONE-OF-US and had a concealed carry permit does not mean he was incapable of error.

Why is it I get this crawly feeling that there are a lot of people on this forum that think Zimmerman is a saint for shooting a black kid? He made a mistake. He was not battling the forces of evil except in his mind.

Charles, if Martin was a white kid, this would have been a one day blip in the local media. Because he was black, we are at where we are now. That's Pathetic.

I'm pretty sure that none of us give a rip what color he was. What we despise is, the way this whole event was handled.

The black felon that walked into Forzas Coffee Shop in Lakewood WA and murdered FOUR white Police Officers didn't get this kind of attention. Did you even hear about it in your local news? That too is Pathetic.

A convicted murder, let out of prison, drives half way across the country, and proceeds to murder four cops in my back yard.
Did you know that a month before, a black man murdered a Seattle Police officer? Or a month later, a Pierce County Deputy was murdered while responding to a domestic violence call? No? SIX police officers, murdered in 3 months within 35 miles of my home.
Did that get national attention? NO. Not a peep!

And the entire nation is in an uproar about a black thug that got killed while attacking a 'white' guy?

Our Country is on its head because of race baiters and the media. This case is yet another perfect example of why racism will never go away. Too many people can't get over it, and too many people keep feeding it.