How do modern socialists REALLY think?

[armoredman]

http://times247.com/articles/39envir...ansit-project5

It's mind boggling.

[whymememe]

It seems every issue can be twisted and manipulated into a civil rights issue where they can get away with anything. Yes, it is mind boggling indeed.

[Gun Geezer]

This just goes to show how we've had it too good for too long in this country. If we had to struggle and spend every waking hour to get the essentials like food, clothing and shelter. If we had masses of starving, homeless citizens demanding the government do something. If we were able to see other people in other countries who had plenty where we had nothing, then our leaders would not have the time to think about spotted owls and endangered mud fish unless they were good to eat.

But when you are born into or come to a country where poor people have automobiles, flat screen TV's, video games, microwave ovens and cell phones, indoor plumbing, air-conditioning, credit cards and Walmart. Where folks don't have to have a job to eat, have shelter, get an education or buy athletic shoes that cost more than a years salary in third world countries, you take all this stuff for granted. You begin to think of yourself as humanitarians rather than human beings. You begin to think in global terms rather than how you got where you are and how you can sustain your position. You forget your beginnings and think about hundreds and thousands of years in the future. You forsake religion for with your new-found power you imagine yourself almost a God. You no longer dream, rather you mistake dreams for reality. You've become a liberal politician!

[raven818]

Originally Posted by Gun Geezer

This just goes to show how we've had it too good for too long in this country. If we had to struggle and spend every waking hour to get the essentials like food, clothing and shelter. If we had masses of starving, homeless citizens demanding the government do something. If we were able to see other people in other countries who had plenty where we had nothing, then our leaders would not have the time to think about spotted owls and endangered mud fish unless they were good to eat.

But when you are born into or come to a country where poor people have automobiles, flat screen TV's, video games, microwave ovens and cell phones, indoor plumbing, air-conditioning, credit cards and Walmart. Where folks don't have to have a job to eat, have shelter, get an education or buy athletic shoes that cost more than a years salary in third world countries, you take all this stuff for granted. You begin to think of yourself as humanitarians rather than human beings. You begin to think in global terms rather than how you got where you are and how you can sustain your position. You forget your beginnings and think about hundreds and thousands of years in the future. You forsake religion for with your new-found power you imagine yourself almost a God. You no longer dream, rather you mistake dreams for reality. You've become a liberal politician!

That's a great post. Folks here, for the most part, have no clue what poor really is.

Not to be PC, cause I am not, but the American Indian Nations would fit right in with what we think of third-world countries, if somebody from the outside were looking in at us as a nation.

My flight West, and ensuing three day drive through three of our states, slapped me right upside the head. I would never have thought I would have seen the poverty I seen in the US.

To describe it to those unfamiliar, as in actually seeing it themselves, they would believe I was telling lies after lies. The way they live on the reservations and surrounding areas, is indescribably awful.

It was an education I will never forget. Don't want to forget. It was one of the saddest experiences of my life.

[Gun Geezer]

Raven, you hit the nail on the head. Even the American Indians in the eastern half of the U.S., the ones with the casino's, don't know what poverty is compared to the Indians in the southwest. It has always been hard for me to believe our country has treated, and continues to treat the original Americans with such bitterness and contempt, while we welcome foreigners with open arms and entitlements that we deny those who were here first and who's land we literally stole and who's culture we continue to depress.

I have spent many summers in southwest Indian territory and worked in industries employing Indians for their ability to "walk the high steel". Their mere existence is a reminder of man's inhumanity to his fellow man. It almost seems as if we have been on a crusade for generations to destroy a once proud civilization and wipe out a culture as if doing so would erase the guilt we have wallowed in since coming to America. Spending any time on a reservation is indeed a humbling and embarrassing experience.

[whymememe]

It was genocide just the same as Hilter's Ethnic cleansing of the Jews.

[whymememe]

Many present day Americans are descendants of the Native Americans and don't even know it. Mixed raced Indians would pass themselves off as European thereby denying their Indian ancestry. This way they would avoid being relocated to reservations.