1777 Charleville - The Firearms Forum

Delpire7 · 06-27-2012, 07:44 PM

Is it a reproduction or authetic. I know it has the brass flashpan but it looks like it was never used. It has the 2 finger ridge. I could go on but the pics should reveal most of the ID's. In case you can't see it name on it is Delpire, Paris. I've done some research and I believe J Delpire was French armorour in the 1800's. Any further analysis based on the photos would be much appreciated as well as value.

Thank you,

Willi

Hammerslagger · 06-27-2012, 08:16 PM

Fist impression would be repo; but do not have enough info to form a strong opinion form your pictures alone.

Are there any proof marks anywhere on the barrel? If so, post clear pics, please.

P.S.-> Looking at just the threads on the cock (hammer) jaw screw; me thinks repo.

rhmc24 · 06-28-2012, 05:41 AM

Would like to see more and detailed pix but from what I see so far it is 100% authentic.

jjmitchell60 · 06-28-2012, 09:10 AM

Need more pictures and any more markings. Agree so far looks real and not reproduction. IF reproduction, some one took a lot of time to make it look real IMHO from what little seen so far.

Jim K · 06-28-2012, 09:39 AM

General question for French weapons experts. Did the French contract out for military arms or did they make them all at the government arsenals?

I am thinking that the gun in question might have been privately made for private sale, possibly somethiing like the British volunteers or for foreign sales.

Jim

Delpire7 · 06-28-2012, 02:57 PM

Thank you for the looking guys. My father is looking at selling it and I told him I would try and find out more about it. I have another Civil War era smooth bore he wants me to find out about. I'll post it today.

Thanks Again!

Willi

06-27-2012, 07:44 PM	#1
Delpire7 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3	1777 Charleville Is it a reproduction or authetic. I know it has the brass flashpan but it looks like it was never used. It has the 2 finger ridge. I could go on but the pics should reveal most of the ID's. In case you can't see it name on it is Delpire, Paris. I've done some research and I believe J Delpire was French armorour in the 1800's. Any further analysis based on the photos would be much appreciated as well as value. Thank you, Willi Attached Images -->

06-27-2012, 08:16 PM	#2
Hammerslagger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,099	Re: 1777 Charleville Fist impression would be repo; but do not have enough info to form a strong opinion form your pictures alone. Are there any proof marks anywhere on the barrel? If so, post clear pics, please. P.S.-> Looking at just the threads on the cock (hammer) jaw screw; me thinks repo. Last edited by Hammerslagger; 06-27-2012 at 08:18 PM.. Reason: Add Post Script

06-28-2012, 05:41 AM	#3
rhmc24 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 525	Re: 1777 Charleville Would like to see more and detailed pix but from what I see so far it is 100% authentic.

06-28-2012, 09:10 AM	#4
jjmitchell60 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Raised in Buzzard Roost near Frog Town in hillls of Kentucky Contributor Posts: 1,471	Re: 1777 Charleville Need more pictures and any more markings. Agree so far looks real and not reproduction. IF reproduction, some one took a lot of time to make it look real IMHO from what little seen so far. __________________ Oath Keepers NOT ON OUR WATCH www.oathkeepers.org 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes Duty... Thomas Jefferson

06-28-2012, 09:39 AM	#5
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: 1777 Charleville General question for French weapons experts. Did the French contract out for military arms or did they make them all at the government arsenals? I am thinking that the gun in question might have been privately made for private sale, possibly somethiing like the British volunteers or for foreign sales. Jim

06-28-2012, 02:57 PM	#6
Delpire7 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3	Re: 1777 Charleville Thank you for the looking guys. My father is looking at selling it and I told him I would try and find out more about it. I have another Civil War era smooth bore he wants me to find out about. I'll post it today. Thanks Again! Willi