Wont let me buy a gun.

[Striker911]

Originally Posted by gun runner

Yeah and the problem is that the dealer and the nics department wont tell you the reason why your 4473 got denied.

Try paying the tickets off and you should able to purchase a weapon. Do you have a warrant for your arrest for any of these tickets? I think you would eh?

Ya its all warrants. I was in GA for one night. Could not go to court. Was visiting in CA and couldn't go to court. KS was due to the road trip to CA and was 6 hours away from where I lived. MO was paid off then they wrote me up for more after the fact. I cant afford to pay them anymore at this time. CA and KS was when I drove to see my Gma on her death bed. GA was a trip for the job I had at the time. Was going to NC and had to make a stop in ATL GA to pick up some coworkers.

They where all mandatory court appearances cause I didn't have a DL. I took care of all the reasons why I lost it (DUI) but in the mean time it was impossible for me to work without driving. So if I got pulled over I got in bigger trouble. I just kept getting pulled over. Even if I didn't get a ticket they ran my name and got me for no DL. I could never afford to get out of the system, and ahead of 8 ball.

[howlnmad]

I'm a truckdriver and have received tickets in over half the continental US. Some required an appearance, some didn't. Most of them I was able to talk with the county attorney and make a deal over the phone. Give it a try.


Oh, and slow down.

[Double D]

Originally Posted by gun runner

Yeah and the problem is that the dealer and the nics department wont tell you the reason why your 4473 got denied.

Try paying the tickets off and you should able to purchase a weapon. Do you have a warrant for your arrest for any of these tickets? I think you would eh?

Its not that the dealer WONT tell you why your denied, its because the dealer doesnt know. When we are given a denial, that is all we are told. It is up to the individual to write a letter or fax a letter to them to find out the reason. They do not and will not tell the dealer why.

[Striker911]

Originally Posted by howlnmad

I'm a truckdriver and have received tickets in over half the continental US. Some required an appearance, some didn't. Most of them I was able to talk with the county attorney and make a deal over the phone. Give it a try.


Oh, and slow down.

Good to know. Sometimes all you have to know is who to ask for when you call. Its part of the attorney client gap. Will try that for sure. I think my boat is about to sell and that should get me out of some of it.

Everyone where I live now drives like 10-20 under. No 4 lane hwys so I have no choice. Been doing very well since I moved here. When we leave town its like everyone wants to run us over. In the city that I came from no one drives under the limit. Its becomes a habit at some point.

[yetiman]

Originally Posted by howlnmad

I'm a truckdriver and have received tickets in over half the continental US. Some required an appearance, some didn't. Most of them I was able to talk with the county attorney and make a deal over the phone. Give it a try.


Oh, and slow down.

Better reel that right foot in! Them tickets going to get harder to fix......I saw on the new yesterday we had a truck that had the trailer cut in half on the tracks close to Nashville......not sure if his landing gear got stuck on the rails or what but they did say he bailed....good thing she was empty.

[Striker911]

Originally Posted by Double D

Its not that the dealer WONT tell you why your denied, its because the dealer doesnt know. When we are given a denial, that is all we are told. It is up to the individual to write a letter or fax a letter to them to find out the reason. They do not and will not tell the dealer why.

I asked the dealer and they said the same thing. When I sent the letter and my finger prints they just listed CA and said that CA may not be the only one holding me back but they wont tell me more till I fix CA then try again. It would be good to know if one or two others are not holding me back that way I knew what step 2 of the 4 would be. So for now I just assume its all 4 that will hold me back. Still would be nice to know after putting forth the effort to find out.

[gun runner]

Originally Posted by Double D

Its not that the dealer WONT tell you why your denied, its because the dealer doesnt know. When we are given a denial, that is all we are told. It is up to the individual to write a letter or fax a letter to them to find out the reason. They do not and will not tell the dealer why.

Yeah your right on that one. The dealer actually doesnt know. I remember now a couple of times I got delayed, I asked the gun shop why and they told me they didnt know. Forgot about that one. I do know the Nics department wont give you any information over the phone

[Hammerslagger]

I have read this thread hastily. A number of different things could be going on, here. As has been previously mentioned, you need to employ a competent criminal practice attorney. If only CA is you problem, it might be a matter of just money similar to unpaid child support; and a lawyer might be able to "play lets make a deal" on the amount and clear your record. No one here can likely do such for you.

Most civil infractions, misdemeanors, and felonies have a statute of limitations at both the Federal and State levels. {For example, the coin dealer who illegally provided then illegal Krugerrands to now deceased, Detroit Mayor Coleman Young went into hiding for over 5 years, when he learned of a likely indictment, and emerged only after the Federal statute of limitations expired. His accomplice spent about a 7 year vacation in a "Club Fed" facility, and was released in 1999.

Hope this helps.

[sub-moa]

I still remember being young and…well stupid. So don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. Many larger local law firms or law groups have licensed affiliates in almost every state. Remember larger doesn't necessarily mean more expensive either. Also most times they will have a paralegal that they can have do most of the grunt work & phone calling for them at a reduced hourly rate. They can find out more in a few hours than you can in months. Find a law office that can handle a multi-state dilemma such as yours. I agree you should limit your desire to clear your background to personal reasons and avoid mentioning guns for now. But dump all of your dirty laundry in their office and let them handle it. States will not deal with you like they will a law firm. They will deal most of the time to remove the issue from their books. Some states also have an annual amnesty period for small violations outstanding that can be paid for a current fine or less. And a ticket free recent record will also help. Many law firms will also set up a payment plan to help with the cost, but beware they will charge a fee for this. May be worth it but it just depends on how much they charge.

[Striker911]

Lots of good information and the support is much appreciated. I feel a lot better about this and I am glad I posted. Its going to be a long hard road but it will never get done unless I take a step forward. In the least, just being able to buy a gun for the first time in my life would be very rewarding. I think everyone looks forward to that.

[rogertc1]

Hi. I am Dave. I am an alcoholic. I have not had a drink for 6 months!!

[Striker911]

Originally Posted by rogertc1

Hi. I am Dave. I am an alcoholic. I have not had a drink for 6 months!!

Awesome job Dave. Its hard to relearn how to have "fun" but it will work itself out and you will see who your real friends are. I had a friend for 15 years and that's all we did was drink when we hung out. We just didn't know what to do with our self's otherwise. In the end we where no longer friends. Good luck and don't worry if you lose friends. Life is much more meaningful with out the kind that help mess things up.

[okiefired]

Originally Posted by Striker911

Ya its all warrants. I was in GA for one night. Could not go to court. Was visiting in CA and couldn't go to court. KS was due to the road trip to CA and was 6 hours away from where I lived. MO was paid off then they wrote me up for more after the fact. I cant afford to pay them anymore at this time. CA and KS was when I drove to see my Gma on her death bed. GA was a trip for the job I had at the time. Was going to NC and had to make a stop in ATL GA to pick up some coworkers.

They where all mandatory court appearances cause I didn't have a DL. I took care of all the reasons why I lost it (DUI) but in the mean time it was impossible for me to work without driving. So if I got pulled over I got in bigger trouble. I just kept getting pulled over. Even if I didn't get a ticket they ran my name and got me for no DL. I could never afford to get out of the system, and ahead of 8 ball.

WTH!? Brother, its a warrent, was a court date. They were'nt ASKING you to be in court. They were'nt ASKING you to show up if it didn't inconvenience you. They weren't ASKING you to show up if it didn't effect your job or if you weren't out of state or you had the time. They were TELLING you to BE...THERE....THEN, there was no choice. Thats called THE LAW. They were requirements. You didn't make just one mistake but you continued to make them for a time, now its commin back to bite you in the ass again. I'm not callin you any names and yes we've all made mistakes and we all have to pay for them so do it like all the rest of us have, or will, and pay it. People who ignore the law in this country dont get to own firearms and thats the way it should be....and yes, you ignored it time and again. I'm sorry but I just dont understand all these people defending you here. It sounds to me like now you're trying to do the right thing and settle up but looking for short cuts. I applaud you for trying to do this and wish you luck.... hope you get it done right.

okie

[Striker911]

I agree with you okiefired. No excuses, and it is what it is. I want to inform myself and take the best plan of action. It took a long time to get here and going to take a long time to get back. If I dont have a plan then I might fail. Thats really it. I was a rebellious punk kid. I have come to terms with that and am trying to work myself out of the hole I dug. I think people are defending me cause they are decent people, and want to help any way they can. Its not hard to look down on someone, and turn your back. I obviously was a pro at it so I know. I blamed the cops. Now I blame me. So its time to fix it.

[BETH]

well start working on it fella and let us know how u make out best of luck

[Striker911]

I will. We are going to wait till December and get that prepaid legal service. In the mean time I am going to see if any of them can work out some payment arrangements. If I have to hire an attorney I better have some money ready. Thats the plan at this point and time. Unless anyone has any better ideas. Might not even need an attorney but I think I should at least consult one. Thats why the pre paid seems good for the situation since I can get as much advice at I need.

[gvw3]

I was in a big hole at one time in my life. I lost my business my home and didn't file income tax for over 3 years. I also had traffic tickets I didn't pay.

I focused on clearing everything up and in around a year dug myself out. I learned my lesson and was never careless again. That was over 30 years ago.

Don't give up. It will take some time and pain but you can dig out of this. You need to clear this up for more than just owning a gun. It will give you problems for the rest of your life if you don't....

[Double D]

Originally Posted by okiefired

WTH!? Brother, its a warrent, was a court date. They were'nt ASKING you to be in court. They were'nt ASKING you to show up if it didn't inconvenience you. They weren't ASKING you to show up if it didn't effect your job or if you weren't out of state or you had the time. They were TELLING you to BE...THERE....THEN, there was no choice. Thats called THE LAW. They were requirements. You didn't make just one mistake but you continued to make them for a time, now its commin back to bite you in the ass again. I'm not callin you any names and yes we've all made mistakes and we all have to pay for them so do it like all the rest of us have, or will, and pay it. People who ignore the law in this country dont get to own firearms and thats the way it should be....and yes, you ignored it time and again. I'm sorry but I just dont understand all these people defending you here. It sounds to me like now you're trying to do the right thing and settle up but looking for short cuts. I applaud you for trying to do this and wish you luck.... hope you get it done right.

okie

LET HE WHO HAS NO SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE.. No stones were cast because they couldnt be. We have all made mistakes in our lives, some much greater than others. Many of us wouldnt have the courage to admit it here on an open forum.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by Double D

LET HE WHO HAS NO SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE.. No stones were cast because they couldnt be. We have all made mistakes in our lives, some much greater than others. Many of us wouldnt have the courage to admit it here on an open forum.

Amen Dan.

I've had my share of lapses of sense. Some I've made public here, many not. But I still feel bad if I think about them.

I would hope that most would understand and not be so judgemental.
I think this thread is a perfect example of that.

[Willie]

Originally Posted by Striker911

I will. We are going to wait till December and get that prepaid legal service. In the mean time I am going to see if any of them can work out some payment arrangements. If I have to hire an attorney I better have some money ready. Thats the plan at this point and time. Unless anyone has any better ideas. Might not even need an attorney but I think I should at least consult one. Thats why the pre paid seems good for the situation since I can get as much advice at I need.

I have had several employees that I have had to let go over the exact same thing. They cannot drive and when pulled over in my company trucks they go straight to jail. Two young men worked for me for a long time and then it started and never stopped. They both spent money on all the finer things but never took care of the tickets. Last I knew both had fines over 12 thousand dollars and were not trying to drive anymore. All they had to do was pay when the tickets were cheap. Now they have low paying jobs as thier new employer knows they cannot get a job that requires driving or a background check. One of these guys made over 100k the last year he worked for me,now about 13 dollars a hour. And walking and begging rides everywhere. Just because they thought the rules did not apply to them. Hard lesson. We use Publicdata.com to run checks and for a few dollars it will show all states at once and the charges and warrants you have there. Do not be surprised at the amount you now owe. States don't take it lightly when you ignore them. And drive without a license. The only way out is to work out payment schedules and then pay them. The guys I refer to agreed to payments and then did not pay anyway and the problems are just worse for that. Either one gets checked and it is straight to jail and then more fines,bail etc. If you are serious about fixing this stuff I think a lawyer is good advise but I would get a background check done first and be able to see all the charges against you. You might have even forgotten one or two. But if you don't fix it, it will chase you for the rest of your life in ways you do not even see coming. Better get busy and realize you are not being singled out but are being tought that the laws apply to everyone and with todays computer data bases you have nowhere to hide.
Good luck and best of wishes in your quest.

[raven818]

No lawyer, no where, is licensed to practice country wide. If you hire lawyer, he/she will have to hire somebody in every state you are wanted in. It would not make sense to hire an attorney in every state, unless you local lawyer says you have to.

First, they would start off with Gophers, in every state, to run errands just to see if there is indeed a warrant, or outstanding tickets. If there are warrants, then your lawyer may have the opportunity to hire a paralegal to handle things. If a paralegal in that state doesn't have the credentials it takes to get it done, a newly hired ( by you ) lawyer, in that state, would have to be brought into the picture.

I've lost track of how many states you think you are wanted in, but, if you're anywhere near correct in your assumptions, and you're being honest about your intentions, you're going to have to work four jobs in order to garner enough funds to take care of something that should never have occurred in the first place.

[MSGT-R]

One state at a time, one problem at a time..

[RunningOnMT]

I still say forget the lawyer, and here's why. I don't think they'll be able to get any outstanding fines reduced, plus you'll have to pay the lawyer too. For what?

The time for a lawyer might have been before any warrants were issued. Up til that time the fines for any offenses would have been negotiable. Once you fail to appear and a judgement is entered, it's carved in stone.

As the MSGT said, one state at a time. Contact the county that has jurisdiction, and tell them you want to settle up. They may or may not work with you as far as setting up a payment plan. Some will say they don't do payments; they want the fines paid in full, now. If that's the case and you can't afford it, just set so much money aside each month until you can pay the whole fine. Yeah the warrants wont go away until they are paid but at least you're working on paying them off and you'll be no worse off than you have been all these years.

I don't know how much money is involved in taking care of all of these fees and fines, but I assume it's quite a lot. It will hurt while you're paying them off but once your record is free of any warrants you will feel so much better. And then you can get your CCW permit.

[okiefired]

Originally Posted by Double D

LET HE WHO HAS NO SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE.. No stones were cast because they couldnt be. We have all made mistakes in our lives, some much greater than others. Many of us wouldnt have the courage to admit it here on an open forum.

I think I made it pretty clear in my post that I wasnt throwing stones and that I agreed we have all made and will continue to make mistakes. Fact of the matter is, just because I admit to my mistakes dosn't mean I shouldn't be held acccountable for what I've done. Do we not hold murderers and thieves accountable for what they've done just because thier accusers have made mistakes too? Or is that thinking reserved just for those who have commited misdomeaners? If you want to quote scripture we can, I'm sure you know there are plenty that say we all should and will be held accountable. Like I said, I applaud the OP for trying to get this worked out and wish him the best of luck and hope he gets his record cleared. I'll have to admit though that I question his motive because of the time frame and circomstance. Once again, good luck to him.

okie

[ozo]

Originally Posted by rogertc1

Hi. I am Dave. I am an alcoholic. I have not had a drink for 6 months!!

Great Dave.....thanks for sharing.
I will have a gin and juice 'for you'.......