Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? - The Firearms Forum

bluesea112 · 06-30-2012, 09:42 AM

Does anybody know the actual reason that Eric Holder is not in jail? Please don't respond with "Because he is above the law" or "because he is federal employee".
I want to know the true and actual reason he was not arrested and jailed after Congress voted to hold him in "Contempt of Congress". That is a serious charge. They put Martha Stewart in prison for lying to a Federal agent, and contempt of Congress is much more serious than that.

carver · 06-30-2012, 09:48 AM

Technically speaking, it’s possible he could end up in the slammer. But don’t hold your breath – it almost certainly isn’t going to happen. In the modern era, citing an administration official for contempt is often just a tactical maneuver in a larger Congress-White House dispute. It can put some added pressure on the administration, sure. But the executive branch has lots of ways to delay the resulting legal proceedings.

Nighthawk · 06-30-2012, 09:56 AM

The executive branch controls all law enforcement and thus the Pres can decide who to arrest and who not to. He can not be convicted on impeachable offense as long as dems control Senate.

22WRF · 06-30-2012, 10:17 AM

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Does anybody know the actual reason that Eric Holder is not in jail?

He has friends in high places

rcairflr · 06-30-2012, 10:37 AM

In other words, whether you like it or not, "he is above the law".

Twicepop · 06-30-2012, 10:41 AM

One of the appointed special prosecuters was/is a member of the staff in the DNC that was assigned to get "Dear Leader" elected, as well as being a large campaign doner. You can't get much more corrupt than that. Now, where the hell are the Republicans to do something about this. If they're not part of the solution, then they're part of the problem.

those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

Double D · 06-30-2012, 11:09 AM

Honestly, there are so many crooks up there that if they put the ones in jail that belong in jail, there would only be like 4-5 people left to run the country and there isnt enough room in the local jails. I am talking crooks on BOTH sides of the isle. They wont ever see a jail cell. They are above the law, like it or not.

bluesea112 · 06-30-2012, 11:50 AM

Well, at least history will show that Holder was enough of a failure that he managed to be the very first Attorney General in the history of the United States to be found in Contempt of Congress. That is not exactly a legacy he can be proud of.

Bobitis · 06-30-2012, 12:09 PM

I believe Nighthawk is correct. They simply chose not to, and Obie sure ain't gonna disagree.

Win73 · 06-30-2012, 12:29 PM

There are two parts to being held in contempt of congress. The criminal portion is referred to the justice department for prosecution. Guess who controls the justice department!

Gun Geezer · 06-30-2012, 12:53 PM

As Holder is a member of the government, the contempt of Congress vote is more like a hand slap than a felony charge. Just like when Congress censures it's own members. It would be rare indeed if he saw any jail time. Also, since most of the vote was along party lines and the Dem's have been screaming partisanship, I'm fairly certain it will be dismissed as just another political ploy in an election year. At best it may reflect badly on Obozo come November.

RunningOnMT · 06-30-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Twicepop

One of the appointed special prosecuters was/is a member of the staff in the DNC that was assigned to get "Dear Leader" elected, as well as being a large campaign doner. You can't get much more corrupt than that. Now, where the hell are the Republicans to do something about this. If they're not part of the solution, then they're part of the problem.

those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

Hey, Obummer didn't spend all that time in Chicago and not learn anything.

cycloneman · 06-30-2012, 02:47 PM

No one is above the law. The jury you and i are cowards.

Why not someone call Glenn Back and get someone with a voice on the radio to do just like the jessie's and sharptons do and form a group to march somewhere to demand JUSTICE.

IT'S OUR FAULT HE IS NOT IN JAIL RIGHT NOW. WE ARE ALL PUSSIES. I AM NOT AFRAID.

WHO IS READY TO DEMAND JUSTICE? MAKE A LIST RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE OF WHO WILL MARCH FOR JUSTICE.

GO!

LyleLovett666 · 06-30-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Honestly, there are so many crooks up there that if they put the ones in jail that belong in jail, there would only be like 4-5 people left to run the country and there isnt enough room in the local jails. I am talking crooks on BOTH sides of the isle. They wont ever see a jail cell. They are above the law, like it or not.

+1

armoredman · 06-30-2012, 03:29 PM

He is not in jail because his employees refused to follow the Contempt of Congress citation. The DoJ returned it to Congress with a letter that stated they believed he had done nothing wrong, and because THEY believed he did nothing wrong, they will not now or ever execute the Contempt of Congress citation. That is the reason he is not now, now will be in jail in the foreseeable future. Even if Dear Leader is removed from office in November, Mr Holder will never be held liable for his actions, and will make millions on the speaking circuit to law schools describing how to get away with murder.

sting75ray · 06-30-2012, 03:33 PM

Jail would be too good for him anyway. Need a rope and a tall tree!!!!!!!!!!!!

soundguy · 06-30-2012, 05:36 PM

lets face it.. the person responsible for bringing charges against him WORKS for him.

what do YOU think is gonna happen?

I think we should impeach the entire bunch!

cycloneman · 06-30-2012, 06:31 PM

cycloneman · 06-30-2012, 06:34 PM

CCHolderinMaine · 06-30-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesea112

Does anybody know the actual reason that Eric Holder is not in jail? Please don't respond with "Because he is above the law" or "because he is federal employee".
I want to know the true and actual reason he was not arrested and jailed after Congress voted to hold him in "Contempt of Congress". That is a serious charge. They put Martha Stewart in prison for lying to a Federal agent, and contempt of Congress is much more serious than that.

Because he's a liberal, and if it weren't for double standards, they wouldn't have any at all.

If this were the Bush administration, there would be so many trials even Washington might run out of lawyers.

Kevin Rohrer · 07-01-2012, 03:32 PM

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In other words, whether you like it or not, "he is above the law".

Not after this December.

cycloneman · 07-01-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Rohrer

Not after this December.

i agree

JLA · 07-01-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesea112

Does anybody know the actual reason that Eric Holder is not in jail? Please don't respond with "Because he is above the law" or "because he is federal employee".
I want to know the true and actual reason he was not arrested and jailed after Congress voted to hold him in "Contempt of Congress". That is a serious charge. They put Martha Stewart in prison for lying to a Federal agent, and contempt of Congress is much more serious than that.

Ok ill play... Its because nobody in power has the balls to do what needs to be done anymore.

Jerryboy · 07-01-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesea112

Does anybody know the actual reason that Eric Holder is not in jail? Please don't respond with "Because he is above the law" or "because he is federal employee".
I want to know the true and actual reason he was not arrested and jailed after Congress voted to hold him in "Contempt of Congress". That is a serious charge. They put Martha Stewart in prison for lying to a Federal agent, and contempt of Congress is much more serious than that.

silly peasant, you're not supposed to ask questions, you are a peasant.

sub-moa · 07-01-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesea112

Does anybody know the actual reason that Eric Holder is not in jail? Please don't respond with "Because he is above the law" or "because he is federal employee".
I want to know the true and actual reason he was not arrested and jailed after Congress voted to hold him in "Contempt of Congress". That is a serious charge. They put Martha Stewart in prison for lying to a Federal agent, and contempt of Congress is much more serious than that.

Its because he went to Disney World. No kidding.

check this out, the writer is believe it or not a retired Chicago Cop.

http://communities.washingtontimes.c...orney-general/

06-30-2012, 09:42 AM	#1
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,262	Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? Does anybody know the actual reason that Eric Holder is not in jail? Please don't respond with "Because he is above the law" or "because he is federal employee". I want to know the true and actual reason he was not arrested and jailed after Congress voted to hold him in "Contempt of Congress". That is a serious charge. They put Martha Stewart in prison for lying to a Federal agent, and contempt of Congress is much more serious than that. -->

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carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,546	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? Technically speaking, it’s possible he could end up in the slammer. But don’t hold your breath – it almost certainly isn’t going to happen. In the modern era, citing an administration official for contempt is often just a tactical maneuver in a larger Congress-White House dispute. It can put some added pressure on the administration, sure. But the executive branch has lots of ways to delay the resulting legal proceedings. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

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Nighthawk Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Central Texas Posts: 3,330	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? The executive branch controls all law enforcement and thus the Pres can decide who to arrest and who not to. He can not be convicted on impeachable offense as long as dems control Senate. __________________ Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives." --John Adams, letter to Benjamin Rush, April 18, 1808 NRA Life TSRA Life GOA Member

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rcairflr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,348	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? In other words, whether you like it or not, "he is above the law".

06-30-2012, 10:41 AM	#6
Twicepop Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 596	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? One of the appointed special prosecuters was/is a member of the staff in the DNC that was assigned to get "Dear Leader" elected, as well as being a large campaign doner. You can't get much more corrupt than that. Now, where the hell are the Republicans to do something about this. If they're not part of the solution, then they're part of the problem. those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

06-30-2012, 11:09 AM	#7
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,253	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? Honestly, there are so many crooks up there that if they put the ones in jail that belong in jail, there would only be like 4-5 people left to run the country and there isnt enough room in the local jails. I am talking crooks on BOTH sides of the isle. They wont ever see a jail cell. They are above the law, like it or not. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

06-30-2012, 11:50 AM	#8
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,262	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? Well, at least history will show that Holder was enough of a failure that he managed to be the very first Attorney General in the history of the United States to be found in Contempt of Congress. That is not exactly a legacy he can be proud of.

06-30-2012, 12:09 PM	#9
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? I believe Nighthawk is correct. They simply chose not to, and Obie sure ain't gonna disagree. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

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Win73 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 129	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? There are two parts to being held in contempt of congress. The criminal portion is referred to the justice department for prosecution. Guess who controls the justice department! __________________ (Luke 11:21 KJV) When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: (Luke 22:36 KJV) Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

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Gun Geezer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,716	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? As Holder is a member of the government, the contempt of Congress vote is more like a hand slap than a felony charge. Just like when Congress censures it's own members. It would be rare indeed if he saw any jail time. Also, since most of the vote was along party lines and the Dem's have been screaming partisanship, I'm fairly certain it will be dismissed as just another political ploy in an election year. At best it may reflect badly on Obozo come November. __________________ If voting could change anything for the better, It'd already be illegal.

06-30-2012, 02:47 PM	#13
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,436	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? No one is above the law. The jury you and i are cowards. Why not someone call Glenn Back and get someone with a voice on the radio to do just like the jessie's and sharptons do and form a group to march somewhere to demand JUSTICE. IT'S OUR FAULT HE IS NOT IN JAIL RIGHT NOW. WE ARE ALL PUSSIES. I AM NOT AFRAID. WHO IS READY TO DEMAND JUSTICE? MAKE A LIST RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE OF WHO WILL MARCH FOR JUSTICE. GO! __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

06-30-2012, 03:29 PM	#15
armoredman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Proud to be in Arizona Posts: 1,380	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? He is not in jail because his employees refused to follow the Contempt of Congress citation. The DoJ returned it to Congress with a letter that stated they believed he had done nothing wrong, and because THEY believed he did nothing wrong, they will not now or ever execute the Contempt of Congress citation. That is the reason he is not now, now will be in jail in the foreseeable future. Even if Dear Leader is removed from office in November, Mr Holder will never be held liable for his actions, and will make millions on the speaking circuit to law schools describing how to get away with murder.

06-30-2012, 03:33 PM	#16
sting75ray Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,093	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? Jail would be too good for him anyway. Need a rope and a tall tree!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ [IMG][/IMG]

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soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,741	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? lets face it.. the person responsible for bringing charges against him WORKS for him. what do YOU think is gonna happen? I think we should impeach the entire bunch!

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cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,436	Re: Why isn't Eric Holder in Jail? . Attached Images __________________ Who are you going to serve today?