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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Hi,is this worth a few farthings?
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Australia
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Now i know you aint gonna beleive me so i'll show you , but if you can clean the old laquer residue off ( the white refecting stuff ) and restore it gently i'll show you something
http://www.tortugatrading.com/engine...Filter=Archive I bought this one for $650 ( i bought 3 weapons in total so got it cheap) I now after $140 of work it's up for sale here http://images.goldbergauctions.com/p...ale=43&lot=486 |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ardmore, OK
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Typical 'trade pistol' of early 1800s. Proabably the most prolific maker was Ketland - (English). I have owned several of them usually with 9" brass barrel, one with iron barrel. They were the entry level pistol of their time, adequate quality, few frills, low price. Do an internt search 'flintlock trade pistol' and find more info.
Value guestimate $800. |
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Former Guest
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Australia
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Trade they where but there where a fair few made ( from parts ) in the USA Benson that stamped NJ for the state of new jersey the most common
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Thanks folks, here's another one hopefully worth a few pieces of eight:
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ardmore, OK
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Interesting to look at so far but not enuf info to know what it is. If the barrel flares into an original blunderus you could have some serious value. If it's just a hacked off fowler, not a lot altho it looks like it may have been made as a short gun, based on apparent spacing of ramrod pipes, etc.. A good set of detail pix needed to eliminate speculation.
Last edited by rhmc24; 07-02-2012 at 06:06 AM.. |
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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hi thanks for the response, her are some more if you need other angles let me know ,kenj:
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ardmore, OK
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Latest pix seem to confirm the muzzle that of a blunderbus but close-ups lack perspective for more than speculation. Take three focused and well lighted shots of the front half of the gun, one from the side, the top and the bottom. Also provide some dimensions, length of barrel, outside diameter of the muzzle and a measurement or best estimate of bore diameter about six inches back down the bore beyond the flare.
If it is confirmed to be an original unmodified blunderbus you have a piece of collector worth in the range of serious money. An afternote, I was trading guns in Easern US 1950s-'70s. English and other fowling pieces (single barrel shotguns) were common and some entrepreneurs would shorten the barrel. flare the muzzle and try to sell to the unwary as a blunderbus. I saw several but none with the full treatment of correcting the spacings of ramrod pipes, etc. From what I see so far, yours looks genuine. Last edited by rhmc24; 07-04-2012 at 08:55 AM.. Reason: typos |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
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It looks like the muzzle is plugged. Is that just a plug to keep dirt out, or has it been deactivated by pouring lead or cement into the barrel?
Jim |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,309
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Jim, I think it's just the reflection from his flash, but a reminder that he should check to insure there's not an ancient load in there.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Hi, thanks for the responses. I hope these are a bit more detailed. barrel length 19 ins. mouth 1 and half inches (outer lip diameter). barrel estimate width 1 inch. kenj.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ardmore, OK
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Appears you have an original flint blunderbus in rare "un-messed-around-with" condition. It should be left as-is, no cleaning or polishing. I use a good coat of paste floor wax. It is something of a rarity in that it is (mid 1700s) with iron barrel, when most had brass barrels.
I checked a couple dealer listings and found only two blunderbus, brass barrel with prices $3 to $4K. Yours might price higher but the dealer probably pays half or less than his asking price due slow demand. All that said, a careful examination by a person knowledgable about blunderbusses is highly recommended. Finding such a person with objective interest is yet another issue. Last edited by rhmc24; 07-04-2012 at 04:33 PM.. |
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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thanks for the information very informative. Here is one more I have. I see what looks like 1862 with tower written under it. termite damage on stock . and a crown on it . thanks , kenj:
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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