Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle - The Firearms Forum

JT1888 · 03-17-2009, 07:29 PM

Markings -- Hopkins & Allen Manufacturing Compnay, Norwich CT, Merwin Hulbert Co. Jr., patent pending June 26 1885 October 2, 1988. Plain stock with metal piece where it lays against shoulder. Single-shot rifle, no other markings. Can attempt picture if you need it. Thanks.

300 H&H · 03-17-2009, 08:42 PM

JT1888,

Pictures will always help, especially with a value. Give it a try if you would, Best regards Kirk

PetahW · 03-18-2009, 12:49 PM

H&A made about a dozen different single-shot rifles from 1887-1914, and more if you count in .25's & .32's.

Except for their "Schuetzen Rifle" (so marked), they all have a pretty similar value - from $80 to $400 +/-, depending upon the remaining percentage of original condition.

Most bores will look like an old sewer pipe, since these were used in the days of mecuric-primed blackpowder ammunition - and is to be expected.

If it's a lever-operated dropping-block action w/round barrel, it's a #922.
The same, w/octagon bbl is # 1922.

If it's a thumb-operated rolling block, it's a #722.
The same, but w/military stock & an indian head in the left frame, it's a Scout - worth +20%.

If it's a lever-operated rolling block it's a #822.

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b.goforth · 03-18-2009, 01:35 PM

as i have mentioned before any H&A that also has M&H markings was manufctured between 1874 and 1896. these are the years M&H was the sole distributor for H&A products. other than this era there has not been enough research on either company to give exact manufacture dates of any of their firearms. hopefully someone will take up this challenge in the near future.
bill

JT1888 · 03-18-2009, 04:21 PM

I found another number 6464 on the "breech" that drops down to insert the bullet. I have some pictures and now have to figure out how to insert them into this space.

JT1888 · 03-18-2009, 04:28 PM

Well, I figured it out so here are 4 picture that are nowhere near the quality I have seen on FFC but it is the best I can do with my limited photographic equipment--at least it's not a Brownie camera--I do have one of those but no film. Thanks somuch to all of you for replying This gun has been in my family for over 100 years so I am anxious to see what its history is. I found the numbers 6464 or 6454 on the pull-down breech. Thanks again.

trapperray · 07-08-2012, 02:59 PM

Anyone know where I can find parts for a 922, need a breech block and no Numrichs doesn't have one in stock. Thanks Ray.

trapperray · 07-09-2012, 06:48 PM

Got a reply on my post, but the e-mail address I recieved doesn't work, so ssdave@rushmore.com, can't reply to your e-mail, Ray

03-17-2009, 07:29 PM	#1
JT1888 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5	Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle Markings -- Hopkins & Allen Manufacturing Compnay, Norwich CT, Merwin Hulbert Co. Jr., patent pending June 26 1885 October 2, 1988. Plain stock with metal piece where it lays against shoulder. Single-shot rifle, no other markings. Can attempt picture if you need it. Thanks. -->

03-17-2009, 08:42 PM	#2
300 H&H Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,796	Re: Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle JT1888, Pictures will always help, especially with a value. Give it a try if you would, Best regards Kirk

03-18-2009, 12:49 PM	#3
PetahW Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: State of Despair Posts: 239	Re: Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle H&A made about a dozen different single-shot rifles from 1887-1914, and more if you count in .25's & .32's. Except for their "Schuetzen Rifle" (so marked), they all have a pretty similar value - from $80 to $400 +/-, depending upon the remaining percentage of original condition. Most bores will look like an old sewer pipe, since these were used in the days of mecuric-primed blackpowder ammunition - and is to be expected. If it's a lever-operated dropping-block action w/round barrel, it's a #922. The same, w/octagon bbl is # 1922. If it's a thumb-operated rolling block, it's a #722. The same, but w/military stock & an indian head in the left frame, it's a Scout - worth +20%. If it's a lever-operated rolling block it's a #822. . Last edited by PetahW; 03-18-2009 at 12:57 PM..

03-18-2009, 01:35 PM	#4
b.goforth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3,174	Re: Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle as i have mentioned before any H&A that also has M&H markings was manufctured between 1874 and 1896. these are the years M&H was the sole distributor for H&A products. other than this era there has not been enough research on either company to give exact manufacture dates of any of their firearms. hopefully someone will take up this challenge in the near future. bill __________________ Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com

03-18-2009, 04:21 PM	#5
JT1888 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5	Re: Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle I found another number 6464 on the "breech" that drops down to insert the bullet. I have some pictures and now have to figure out how to insert them into this space.

03-18-2009, 04:28 PM	#6
JT1888 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5	Re: Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle Well, I figured it out so here are 4 picture that are nowhere near the quality I have seen on FFC but it is the best I can do with my limited photographic equipment--at least it's not a Brownie camera--I do have one of those but no film. Thanks somuch to all of you for replying This gun has been in my family for over 100 years so I am anxious to see what its history is. I found the numbers 6464 or 6454 on the pull-down breech. Thanks again. Attached Images

07-08-2012, 02:59 PM	#7
trapperray Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: N.E.Iowa Posts: 2	Re: Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle Anyone know where I can find parts for a 922, need a breech block and no Numrichs doesn't have one in stock. Thanks Ray.

07-09-2012, 06:48 PM	#8
trapperray Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: N.E.Iowa Posts: 2	Re: Hopkins & Allen, 22 single-shot rifle Got a reply on my post, but the e-mail address I recieved doesn't work, so ssdave@rushmore.com, can't reply to your e-mail, Ray