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Greetings,
Hopefully, I have posted in the correct forum. If not, please accept my apology and move to appropriate forum. I have a revolver that first belonged to my grandfather, then my father. It is chambered for .22, 6 shot, Double Action. It has an octagonal, 4 inch barrel. Matching serial numbers on barrel, ejector rod, cylinder, and frame. Grip is checkered wood (perhaps walnut). Under the manufacturer's name (on frame) there is a 4 digit number (6404) and letters "PTB". On opposite side of frame is possibly the serial number: L No. 1976. This was the first handgun I learned to shoot (age 8). The last time the pistol was fired was sometime in 1977. The firing pin is missing. It was attached to hammer. I would like (1) additional information, or at least a couple of websites that would give information (I have made numerous searches) and (2) approximate value. I understand the difficulty in providing value because you do not have the handgun and cannot ascertain condition from only my post. Thanks for your help.
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Last edited by eddyg; 07-13-2012 at 06:06 AM.. Reason: More information. |
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That appears to be the standard 7.5mm Model 1887 Swedish service revolver. They were made by Nagant in Belgium and by Husqvarna in Sweden. I can't find any indication that there was a .22 caliber version. The 1976 is an Army inventory number. The serial number is 6404, but the ejector rod housing is mismatched. The gun has been reblued.
Many thousands of those revolvers were declared surplus and imported into the U.S. in the late 1950's and early 1960's, the same time the Swedish 6.5mm rifles and carbines were brought in. I would examine the revolver carefully to see if it might have been converted to .22 in this country, since the proper 7.5mm ammuntiion was very scarce. Jim |
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I'm starting to think you have a very scarce revolver. Husqvarna
Arms Factory, Sweden, made a Nagant revolver {7.5MM ) in 1877 far the Swedish Army and produced them until 1905. My reference, Pistols of the World reads " There also have been reports of .22 rim-fire versions, but it is suspected that these were later conversions- perhaps for training- and not " factory original" end quote. I can find no other reference of these guns being made in .22 rim fire. So, is your revolver a factory original or a later conversion by Husqvarna,, regardless there seems to very few of them around. BTW the Nagant designed revolvers were made in many flavors for different countries, Because it is a Nagant design does not mean it is a Russian Nagant, that was a unique gas seal revolver made for the Russians. Your revolver does show the family Nagant lineage.
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It is .22 caliber. As far as the rebluing----I do not have any knowledge of that. I know it has not since 1961. Last edited by eddyg; 07-13-2012 at 06:09 AM.. Reason: Misunderstood reply |
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I don't know if the Swedish army had these revolvers made in 22 caliber, but I saw ads in 1950's vintage "American Rifleman" magazine for 22 caliber versions. Perhaps it was done at the same time the Swedish Browning 1903s were converted from 9mm Browning Long to 380 ACP.
Eddyg, your photographs make it look like this gun is plated with chrome or bright nickel. Is that actually the case? |
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I just found this website. Scroll down to the last 2 items listed under "Pistols and Revolvers". Is this pertinent information?
http://www.skydevaaben.com/allhvamodels/info.xml |
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I remember the American Rifleman adds with .22 Swedish Nagants being imported. But I have never examined one to see if it had a new .22 cylinder or a bushed 7.5 cylinder. It's most likely genuine Swedish military issue. However, the nickle finish is suspect and detracts from value.
If nothing else, I would get the firing pin repaired so it can be used for shooting. My guess as to value (around here) is in the $100.00 to $200.00 range. If it had original finish and it could be varified that it was issued in .22 caliber then I would guess the price would be in the $500.00 to $600.00 range. Last edited by 45Auto; 07-13-2012 at 08:33 AM.. |
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I believe the guns were factory converted as " Training guns", but the gun has been repaired a { that ejector rod is a modification { and at the present time it is inoperable { broken firing pin }}, I also believe the nickle finish is after market. So while it is a very scarce gun the value is minimal. I would have it repaired and keep it as a heirloom.
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Looks like the 50's chrome fairy got ahold if it to me...that happened to alot of firearms back then...sad to say.
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Thanks everyone. I am waiting for "the" (the one everyone says is the best) gunsmith to return from vacation. I will let you all know what he says.
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