Muzzle Break - The Firearms Forum

ShawnDow · 07-31-2012, 03:52 PM

Hey there guys and gals,

I have a Savage 111FCXP3 in 30-06... Love to shoot it, but as we all know after a while, you start to get jumpy with anticipation on the recoil... Is it worth my while to have a muzzle break put on my Savage? I don't want to change calibers... I'd consider upgrading the Savage (barrel)... or even upgrading from a Savage (to something that can be a "Volume" shooter for the 300-500 yard range) with out beating me up. But Im keeping the -06 cartridge! My goal it to have a rifle that can take upwards of 100 shots during my visits to the range, Im glad I don't pay them by the hour.... about 4-5 hours a visit.
Thanks.
Shawn

Jim K · 07-31-2012, 04:03 PM

A muzzle brake or magna-porting will cut recoil but increase the felt blast and noise. Other possibilities are a good recoil pad or buying a heavier rifle. Of course, lighter loads or lighter bullets will also reduce recoil but I assume you want to keep what you are using in those areas. Of the alternatives, the recoil pad would be the least costly and the easiest to put on or change later.

Jim

Zane71464 · 07-31-2012, 04:39 PM

I've got the Savage 116 in .30-06 with the Shock Suppressor and what a differance.
About like shooting a .243 caliber. If I had an 'ought6 without one, I'd go as Jim said..a good recoil pad!

Helix_FR · 07-31-2012, 07:14 PM

I agree with jim. breaks work but there is a trade off. another option that works well in the shotgun wworld but works with long guns too is installing a dead mule recoil reducer. its a counterweight system that fits in the stock.

cycloneman · 07-31-2012, 07:47 PM

No real magic here. A heavy rifle works.

I have a savage varmitter in 308 with 26" of bbl and heavy. A joy to shoot all day long.

JLA · 07-31-2012, 09:02 PM

Heres my recommendation.. Dont ditch the savage, it is a 'volume shooter' at extended ranges, with the factory barrel.. PM HelixFR and arrange to have the rifle sent to him to be threaded for a muzzle BRAKE. He has done a couple for me and I cant say enough about the guys work, its simply top notch. Your best bet is a VIAS type brake as they work the best at reducing recoil IMO.

Part 2 of my recommendation is for you to order the dead mule while the rifle is away getting muzzle surgery so that way itll be in and ready to be fit to the buttstock when your rifle returns.

Part 3 of my recommendation is enjoy your oughtsix with .223 level recoil..

ShawnDow · 08-01-2012, 03:25 PM

I like the Idea of the Dead Mule recoil reducer... will that work in a synthetic stock? I have never pulled the butt plate off to see if there is any kind of place to mount it.. looks like the butt plate is coming off. And it looks like Ill PM Mr. HelixFR.
thanks for the heads up guys.

ShawnDow · 08-01-2012, 06:23 PM

O.K... dumb question. After looking at the recoil reducers that you can put in the stocks... I see a-lot of them will fit in the stock bolt hole ( which are usually at a slight angle to the barrel ) if my synthetic stock doesn't have that hole yet... would it be more effective to bore it in line with the barrel? Linear motion vs. angular motion... kinda makes sense right?

ShawnDow · 08-01-2012, 06:43 PM

NOT what I was expecting to see in the butt of the stock. Well can I still epoxy a recoil reducer in there, right?
And the butt pad?? is a thin rubber mould over slab of plastic... you can see it to the left of the stock. No wonder I cant get past 2 boxes of 06 when I go to the range... I have a barrel sticking out of my shoulder!

Helix_FR · 08-01-2012, 08:26 PM

Hollow stocks are no problem. The stock will be filled with blocks and rosin. The extra weight in the stock will help too .

JLA · 08-04-2012, 03:46 PM

Yep. you basically just set the recoil reducer into a pool of glass resin or epoxy. Kinda like putting a cedar post in the ground and pouring concrete around it to hold it up. A good chice of inexpensive medium for such a task would be Bondo.

07-31-2012, 03:52 PM	#1
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Muzzle Break Hey there guys and gals, I have a Savage 111FCXP3 in 30-06... Love to shoot it, but as we all know after a while, you start to get jumpy with anticipation on the recoil... Is it worth my while to have a muzzle break put on my Savage? I don't want to change calibers... I'd consider upgrading the Savage (barrel)... or even upgrading from a Savage (to something that can be a "Volume" shooter for the 300-500 yard range) with out beating me up. But Im keeping the -06 cartridge! My goal it to have a rifle that can take upwards of 100 shots during my visits to the range, Im glad I don't pay them by the hour.... about 4-5 hours a visit. Thanks. Shawn __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span! -->

07-31-2012, 04:03 PM	#2
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Muzzle Break A muzzle brake or magna-porting will cut recoil but increase the felt blast and noise. Other possibilities are a good recoil pad or buying a heavier rifle. Of course, lighter loads or lighter bullets will also reduce recoil but I assume you want to keep what you are using in those areas. Of the alternatives, the recoil pad would be the least costly and the easiest to put on or change later. Jim

07-31-2012, 04:39 PM	#3
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,415	Re: Muzzle Break I've got the Savage 116 in .30-06 with the Shock Suppressor and what a differance. About like shooting a .243 caliber. If I had an 'ought6 without one, I'd go as Jim said..a good recoil pad! __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

07-31-2012, 07:14 PM	#4
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,669	Re: Muzzle Break I agree with jim. breaks work but there is a trade off. another option that works well in the shotgun wworld but works with long guns too is installing a dead mule recoil reducer. its a counterweight system that fits in the stock. __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

07-31-2012, 07:47 PM	#5
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,435	Re: Muzzle Break No real magic here. A heavy rifle works. I have a savage varmitter in 308 with 26" of bbl and heavy. A joy to shoot all day long. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

07-31-2012, 09:02 PM	#6
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,407	Re: Muzzle Break Heres my recommendation.. Dont ditch the savage, it is a 'volume shooter' at extended ranges, with the factory barrel.. PM HelixFR and arrange to have the rifle sent to him to be threaded for a muzzle BRAKE. He has done a couple for me and I cant say enough about the guys work, its simply top notch. Your best bet is a VIAS type brake as they work the best at reducing recoil IMO. Part 2 of my recommendation is for you to order the dead mule while the rifle is away getting muzzle surgery so that way itll be in and ready to be fit to the buttstock when your rifle returns. Part 3 of my recommendation is enjoy your oughtsix with .223 level recoil.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

08-01-2012, 03:25 PM	#7
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Muzzle Break I like the Idea of the Dead Mule recoil reducer... will that work in a synthetic stock? I have never pulled the butt plate off to see if there is any kind of place to mount it.. looks like the butt plate is coming off. And it looks like Ill PM Mr. HelixFR. thanks for the heads up guys. __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

08-01-2012, 06:23 PM	#8
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Muzzle Break O.K... dumb question. After looking at the recoil reducers that you can put in the stocks... I see a-lot of them will fit in the stock bolt hole ( which are usually at a slight angle to the barrel ) if my synthetic stock doesn't have that hole yet... would it be more effective to bore it in line with the barrel? Linear motion vs. angular motion... kinda makes sense right? __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

08-01-2012, 06:43 PM	#9
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Muzzle Break NOT what I was expecting to see in the butt of the stock. Well can I still epoxy a recoil reducer in there, right? And the butt pad?? is a thin rubber mould over slab of plastic... you can see it to the left of the stock. No wonder I cant get past 2 boxes of 06 when I go to the range... I have a barrel sticking out of my shoulder! Attached Images __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

08-01-2012, 08:26 PM	#10
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,669	Re: Muzzle Break Hollow stocks are no problem. The stock will be filled with blocks and rosin. The extra weight in the stock will help too . __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com Last edited by Helix_FR; 08-01-2012 at 08:44 PM..

08-04-2012, 03:46 PM	#11
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,407	Re: Muzzle Break Yep. you basically just set the recoil reducer into a pool of glass resin or epoxy. Kinda like putting a cedar post in the ground and pouring concrete around it to hold it up. A good chice of inexpensive medium for such a task would be Bondo. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!