something to consider when shtf

[firefighter1635]

I can live off the land for quite some time, lots of wilderness aeras around me but in the end I think it'll be all for nothing.

[Appliancedude]

Originally Posted by jack404

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In reference to the first one Jack. I never would have figured you for a gamer

[cycloneman]

http://www.defensedevices.com/tire-spikes.html

[marlin795]

SF, Ranger, or SEAL training is the only thing I would consider making someone a "one man army" I know a Ranger and I would NEVER mess with him.

[skullfr]

even the best operators work in teams.If it comes down to it.I would put out feelers to special forces to see where they stand.I feel these guys wouldnt side with the enemy but stay loyal to country.They have alot of knowledge that would be invaluable to covert ops.

[jack404]

the exotic weapons manual ? no game for wimps in there ..

yes you can live and survive on your own , but taking back your nation ??

it'll take more than individuals working alone to do that ..

Militia rings a bell as to the solution ..

[soundguy]

yep.. living as a loner in an EOC environment is a hardship. who watches camp at night?

best to operate in small close nit groups..

[cycloneman]

this thread is to make those think. to show what is out there. ideas. what to bring to the table. we know we will have to work together at some point.

[skullfr]

these are some booby traps although old in design still very effective.Although bamboo is not prevelent here sharpened hardwood fire hardened and covered in fecal matter would be very effective for enemy patrols.LP bottles with nails strapped to em with some type of charge to set it off and a simple pressure plate to complete the circuit.Lot of little nasty things can be done like homemade napalm(foogas).Most items can be found in hardware stores just have to be creative.Ammonium nitrate and racing fuel was used in Okl.many everyday itemscan be used in devious ways and only limited by your imagination


http://youtu.be/jo7XBaG_-SE

[aa1911]

no such thing as a one man army; gotta sleep sometime. nobody watching your six, you're gonna fail sooner than later against groups, even a random sniper. Like said, even the best operators in our military all function as a team in combat scenarios and for good reason. The folks that operate in one's and two's are not kicking doors, they're gathering intel and doing recon type stuff.

gotta band together for survival. What I find funny is all the movies about end of times and such, they only show earth well after all the chaos is complete and people are 'thinned' out already, just surviving. Most people will figure out how to survive once the chaos is over, it's the first few days, few weeks or even months that are the most intense and where 90% will perish.

[skullfr]

I think the reason for the thinned out scenario is most dont or wont have a killer instinct.If it comes to civil war you would need to be merciless.No taking prisoners unless for interrogation.You would need to commit acts of terror to instill fear.Anyone collaborating would need to be made an example of in a public manner.The avg guerilla band would not be able to fight well armed enemy in convential means and resort to acts of terror like the VC or IRA.Although they are brutal they are very effective

[BlackEagle]

Our own history bears this out. The English army was strong, but conventional during the Revelutionary war. Their movements and battle plan followed the tactics of European battles and wars. The Continental army copied indian tactics. Although poorly equiped, and not as well trained, they wore down the Redcoats.

That doesn't necessarily apply to military tactics and training today.

Sorry, rereading the thread, this comment sounds irrelavent.

[skullfr]

Rogers Rangers who started in the french Indian war developed a set of rules which are still used to this day in the ranger training.Kinda like the 1911-why screw with a good thing

[skullfr]

not neccessarily so Blackeagle,look at all past conflict and our present ones.The military with all the modern technology can still be defeated with good guerilla tactics.During Nam the most effective operations were when they used thier own tactics such as the Phoenix Program and units like MACVSOG.Afghans still cause havoc using much more primitive methods against the allies.Even though they are equipped with the latest technolgy for detecting road IEDs they still suffer horribly.The IRA has been at war with Britian for generations and still cannot be defeated.It will require alot of sacrifice and a strong will to do the things neccessary.Alot of tactics need to be extremely brutal to strike fear.

[soundguy]

Originally Posted by aa1911

no such thing as a one man army; gotta sleep sometime. nobody watching your six, you're gonna fail sooner than later against groups, even a random sniper. Like said, even the best operators in our military all function as a team in combat scenarios and for good reason. The folks that operate in one's and two's are not kicking doors, they're gathering intel and doing recon type stuff.

gotta band together for survival. What I find funny is all the movies about end of times and such, they only show earth well after all the chaos is complete and people are 'thinned' out already, just surviving. Most people will figure out how to survive once the chaos is over, it's the first few days, few weeks or even months that are the most intense and where 90% will perish.

yep.. the first few days are the bad ones. that's why having a plan and a B.O.B is good. gets you thru those first few days...

[BadWool]

Originally Posted by howlnmad

I wish I knew where I could get my hands on some of those trip wire devices.

They sell them at Walmart, under the product description of mouse trap...........drill out a hole at the point where the hammer (the steel bar that is spring loaded) slams down against the surface of the trap. The hole must match the diameter of the munition you wish to set off, such as a 12 gauge round. Don't forget to attached something to the hammer so that it will activate the primer upon contact, just like a traditional firing pin.