Can't Identify This Musket - The Firearms Forum

FloridaFlintlock · 08-12-2012, 10:13 AM

I need some help. I've looked this up but can't find the crest stamped on the look or a flintlock with a frizzen shield like this. I'd really appreciate any help you can give me.

jjmitchell60 · 08-12-2012, 11:03 AM

More pictures of the musket along with caliber and any/all markings on ANY/all parts of it would be a help. Full stock or half, sling swivels, length of barrel, length of overall, as well as trigger guard info and pictures are a must or helpful. What little ifo from the pictures are of little if any help at all. The brass flash guard is just that and we use them on reproduction flinters all the time in re-enactments. What that brass flash guard is for is to keep the flash from the pan from blinding or distracting the soldier/shooter to the right of the musket in a line. They are/were used on many makes and models.

Bottom line is a LOT more pictures and info is needed.
Just my 2 cents.

FloridaFlintlock · 08-12-2012, 11:26 AM

Here are a few more pics.

FloridaFlintlock · 08-12-2012, 11:28 AM

a few more

Jim K · 08-12-2012, 01:07 PM

I tried tracking that coat of arms, with no luck at all. Maybe someone else can offer an idea. It looks like three eagles or falcons, close, rampant, a rather unusual combination, but the searches I tried came up with nothing like it.

The sideplate looks odd and may be a replacement; the same is true of several screws.

Other features date it to just before or probably after 1800.

Jim

flintlock · 08-12-2012, 01:43 PM

With the barrel bands held in place by flat springs, the double throated cock, the hammer stall, and the flash guard, it is a reproduction Charleviile musket.

Hawg · 08-12-2012, 03:28 PM

Somebody deactivated it by removing the frizzen spring and driving a dowel down the bore. They also let solvent run down the wood that ruined the finish.

rhmc24 · 08-12-2012, 04:56 PM

Reproduction of a Charleville, yes but not necessarily a recent repro. In the Napoleonic period, French were having arms made in several other countries. It looks old enough to be one of those.

Memory lane --- I had one of those that was converted to percussion, probably brought over by the South in the Civil war. My Dad bought it for me 1940 in Mobile, AL for $1.50 in a used furniture store. I shot it a lot using glass marbles for balls. Most of the time it could hit the hinge on the outhouse door at about 25 yards - till my Dad saw it damaging the wood around the hinge.

3/2 STA SS · 08-12-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rhmc24

Reproduction of a Charleville, yes but not necessarily a recent repro. In the Napoleonic period, French were having arms made in several other countries. It looks old enough to be one of those.

Memory lane --- I had one of those that was converted to percussion, probably brought over by the South in the Civil war. My Dad bought it for me 1940 in Mobile, AL for $1.50 in a used furniture store. I shot it a lot using glass marbles for balls. Most of the time it could hit the hinge on the outhouse door at about 25 yards - till my Dad saw it damaging the wood around the hinge.

Shooting marbles is awesome!!

Fullstock · 01-31-2013, 05:16 PM

I agree that it's an older repro.

08-12-2012, 10:13 AM	#1
FloridaFlintlock Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	Can't Identify This Musket I need some help. I've looked this up but can't find the crest stamped on the look or a flintlock with a frizzen shield like this. I'd really appreciate any help you can give me. Attached Images -->

08-12-2012, 11:03 AM	#2
jjmitchell60 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Raised in Buzzard Roost near Frog Town in hillls of Kentucky Contributor Posts: 1,471	Re: Can't Identify This Musket More pictures of the musket along with caliber and any/all markings on ANY/all parts of it would be a help. Full stock or half, sling swivels, length of barrel, length of overall, as well as trigger guard info and pictures are a must or helpful. What little ifo from the pictures are of little if any help at all. The brass flash guard is just that and we use them on reproduction flinters all the time in re-enactments. What that brass flash guard is for is to keep the flash from the pan from blinding or distracting the soldier/shooter to the right of the musket in a line. They are/were used on many makes and models. Bottom line is a LOT more pictures and info is needed. Just my 2 cents. __________________ Oath Keepers NOT ON OUR WATCH www.oathkeepers.org 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes Duty... Thomas Jefferson

08-12-2012, 11:26 AM	#3
FloridaFlintlock Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	Re: Can't Identify This Musket Here are a few more pics. Attached Images

08-12-2012, 11:28 AM	#4
FloridaFlintlock Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	Re: Can't Identify This Musket a few more Attached Images

08-12-2012, 01:07 PM	#5
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Can't Identify This Musket I tried tracking that coat of arms, with no luck at all. Maybe someone else can offer an idea. It looks like three eagles or falcons, close, rampant, a rather unusual combination, but the searches I tried came up with nothing like it. The sideplate looks odd and may be a replacement; the same is true of several screws. Other features date it to just before or probably after 1800. Jim

08-12-2012, 01:43 PM	#6
flintlock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Upstate NY Contributor Posts: 898	Re: Can't Identify This Musket With the barrel bands held in place by flat springs, the double throated cock, the hammer stall, and the flash guard, it is a reproduction Charleviile musket.

08-12-2012, 03:28 PM	#7
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,561	Re: Can't Identify This Musket Somebody deactivated it by removing the frizzen spring and driving a dowel down the bore. They also let solvent run down the wood that ruined the finish.

08-12-2012, 04:56 PM	#8
rhmc24 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 527	Re: Can't Identify This Musket Reproduction of a Charleville, yes but not necessarily a recent repro. In the Napoleonic period, French were having arms made in several other countries. It looks old enough to be one of those. Memory lane --- I had one of those that was converted to percussion, probably brought over by the South in the Civil war. My Dad bought it for me 1940 in Mobile, AL for $1.50 in a used furniture store. I shot it a lot using glass marbles for balls. Most of the time it could hit the hinge on the outhouse door at about 25 yards - till my Dad saw it damaging the wood around the hinge. Last edited by rhmc24; 08-12-2012 at 05:04 PM..

01-31-2013, 05:16 PM	#10
Fullstock Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 15	Re: Can't Identify This Musket I agree that it's an older repro.