Self defense fighting style

[Davejohn90]

I'm looking for a economical way to learn some self defense manuvers or a style of combat. Krav maga the israel fighting style has peeked my interest does anyone know where i could get some videos or mabye some books at? (cheap or free perferably)

[jack404]

mind if i ask age height weight and experience ?

Krav Maga is very good but assumes you have some basic skills

light weights like myself ( i'm scrawny nowdays) may be better of with something like silat ( malay fighting style ) or Shree Tai Kwon do

larger folks who have decent muscles but a lot of bulk slowing them should study a close in combat style , or get put em down, take em out , how to use that bulk as a tool .. and a shiv

[jack404]

i'm a big fan of this though ..

[norahc]

Originally Posted by jack404

i'm a big fan of this though ..

I prefer this method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0XqFZ8GmI

[jack404]

me too but the idiots here want the odd's stacked in the jihadists way

make it even sorta i think ..

[ampaterry]

I have tried several martial arts styles, and several different ways of learning them.
A residence class is best, because having someone watch you and point out exactly what you need to work on, as well as having various sparring partners, is highly beneficial.
But that is expensive, and at least where I have lived, the number of different styles available within commuting distance is quite limited.

So I have gone to several different distant-learning methods, with varying degrees of success.

Dr. Yang is the best long-distance instructor I have come across. He operates the Yang Martial Arts Association (YMAA)

He offers MANY different external Martial Arts styles on DVD.

I have his Shaolin Kung Fu DVD, and have been working through it for some months now - it is VERY good, has a LOT of information, and is easy to follow.

Whatevery style you settle on, I recommend Dr. Yang Ming as an instructor.

His Doctorate is in Mechanical Engineering - and he applies those principles to his martial arts quite well -

[aa1911]

Russian Martial Arts! (Systema)

[Davejohn90]

I am 6,2 260lbs I'm not in good shape and I feel taking on some martial art would help me to get in a better shape bc i'm more interested in martial arts then riding a bike for 20+miles. Honestly I boxed for about 1 1/2 years amateur but other than that I have no experience in martial arts.

[jack404]

Systema is Krav mag if you've ever studied either you'll see it in the other

260 at 6'2"

no krav would be fine for you ..

[ampaterry]

YMAA offers this Krav Maga course.

Jack, do you think this would do if no local instruction is available for Davejohn?
I would expect it is up to YMAA standards, or they would not be handling it, so there is YEARS of training packed in this six hour plus DVD set -

[jack404]

remember Charles Atlas ? there was another Dr shing taught what became known as shaolin kung foo , i did both well before i saw the inside of a school

moved to the city and realised it was real enough if you practise , yes i needed a lot of correction when i hit the military but was made a instructor in my 4th year

so self education from books and DVD's i think is like a good ryu you get out what you put in

and david kahn is no amatuer , he's impressive in person

i'm also very glad this series is his own and not with Levine who was light on substance and heavy on marketing ( and posing , sorry for his fans , met the guy so entitled to my thoughts and yes he;d wipe the floor with me , eventually )

i may invest in a set myself

cheers for the link Terry !

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by Davejohn90

I am 6,2 260lbs I'm not in good shape and I feel taking on some martial art would help me to get in a better shape bc i'm more interested in martial arts then riding a bike for 20+miles. Honestly I boxed for about 1 1/2 years amateur but other than that I have no experience in martial arts.

IMO you should get back into boxing. I have always worked the heavy bag and used to work the speed bag and it is great exercise. I have done both boxing (I was not Golden Gloves) and martial arts and IMO the boxing workouts were the best.

[ampaterry]

Jack, I just watched the video of David Kahn, and it caused me to pause -
Everything he did was with an opponent, and from all of his moves I cannot see how this MA could be done without a partner to work with -
Something he may want to consider -

[hoodedmonk]

Ok I hope I don't piss alot of people off here, but I would disregard all of the previous advice with the exception of 76Highboy. First off the best self defense is without a doubt a gun! that being said, Boxing is an effective martial art! add a ground/grappling art to your game such as Judo or in my opinion even better Brazillion Jiu jitsu and you will gain practicle self defense as well as an improved level of fitness. Avoid styles that do not sparr and do not practice alive training methods.

[jack404]

hope ya never get caught between reloads ..

and here i cant carry and get jumped with knives too many times to be slack

this is my arm after the first parry to open him up ( and i had on a heavy jacket and a sloppy joe ) almost 2 years on now

and thats all he did to me

but the "incident" lasted a while after this happened

[hoodedmonk]

Jumped with knives too many times? You should move away! To the op. check out this website hopefully it will help you out Bullshido.net warning you will need thick skin.

[hoodedmonk]

Originally Posted by jack404

i'm a big fan of this though ..

Just say no!

[ampaterry]

Originally Posted by hoodedmonk

Ok I hope I don't piss alot of people off here, but I would disregard all of the previous advice with the exception of 76Highboy. First off the best self defense is without a doubt a gun! that being said, Boxing is an effective martial art! add a ground/grappling art to your game such as Judo or in my opinion even better Brazillion Jiu jitsu and you will gain practicle self defense as well as an improved level of fitness. Avoid styles that do not sparr and do not practice alive training methods.

Originally Posted by hoodedmonk

Jumped with knives too many times? You should move away! To the op. check out this website hopefully it will help you out Bullshido.net warning you will need thick skin.

I am not at all upset or mad, but more puzzled.
You say to disregard all the MA posts in favor of boxing.
Then you recommend a site that exposes fakery in MA - which does not denegrate a single one of the styles you just advised the OP to disregard - -

[Country101]

While this is just for entertainment, you can pick up a lot from UFC. UFC, not KFC, Highboy...... Although, I guess I kinda contrdict myself here, because you can pick up a family size meal....... I digress.....

Seriously though, while you will not get the full benefits of actual training and experince of a class, you can pick up quite a few moves and techniques from UFC if you watch enough and listen to some quality commentating. There are a lot of differant styles and each has it's own advantages and disadvantages depending on the opposing style and opponent. You can look at the fighters and see who you might be built like and how you might fight and learn a few moves. Grappelling techniques and choke holds can be adapted into quite a few differant styles. I know personnally, if I get into a scrap with somebody, I am looking to take them out of the fight quickly. 10-15 seconds in a guillotine and they are out. If they dont have a weapon, once you get them in, they are done. So pick up what you can, where you can.

This doesnt take the place of good training and I am not saying UFC watching is sufficient, but you can pick up a lot from it if you watch it not just to see who wins. Those guys wouldnt win without training. Look at Kimbo........

[ampaterry]

I'm not really a martial arts expert -
But I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night -

[jack404]

i should move away , cut and run huh ? i see how your mind works , well i did move away , i was ordered too , ordered to leave my home , to lessen community tensions

narr i was winning , and thanks to those who say you should run away showing what they'd do , not what a right minded non fear controlled person would do

i was chased outta my own home , but the Good Lord Brought me here

and here i be..

and i still go back to where i was , to give them a hard time

know why ?

too stupid to give in

unlike others who's first thought is to let em run them off

i guess i'm just a dumb old fart with not enough brains to know whats what

but i'm still here ,

where are my attackers ??

run home to palistine or lebanon or other places

cause they know there aint no end until I say so

and i aint said so yet on most of em

but hey you come here bag martial arts and then say to roll over first chance

i'll not follow your advice eh

i've not a high regard for cowadice

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by norahc

I prefer this method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0XqFZ8GmI

Dude, you just crack me up. That is funny stuff right there.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by Country101

While this is just for entertainment, you can pick up a lot from UFC. UFC, not KFC, Highboy...... Although, I guess I kinda contrdict myself here, because you can pick up a family size meal....... I digress.....

Seriously though, while you will not get the full benefits of actual training and experince of a class, you can pick up quite a few moves and techniques from UFC if you watch enough and listen to some quality commentating. There are a lot of differant styles and each has it's own advantages and disadvantages depending on the opposing style and opponent. You can look at the fighters and see who you might be built like and how you might fight and learn a few moves. Grappelling techniques and choke holds can be adapted into quite a few differant styles. I know personnally, if I get into a scrap with somebody, I am looking to take them out of the fight quickly. 10-15 seconds in a guillotine and they are out. If they dont have a weapon, once you get them in, they are done. So pick up what you can, where you can.

This doesnt take the place of good training and I am not saying UFC watching is sufficient, but you can pick up a lot from it if you watch it not just to see who wins. Those guys wouldnt win without training. Look at Kimbo........

Thanks country, I'm gonna get me a bucket today and I will be the best chicken fighter you have ever seen.

OK, all joking aside. I love to fight. For the O.P. in considering his weight and size. This is always my mindset with fighting.

All fights go to the ground,,, ALWAYS. If you die, win, or lose, it all goes to the ground. The reason I say boxing is you never really lose your technique. When someone confronts you, once they are into your "Zone" you take them with the hit. I have practiced Kenpo Karate, Judo, and much more. But I have also boxed and I really am not a great boxer. The thing is what I have retained all of my life is my boxing. If I get on the heavy bag or the speed bag I suck!!! But from time to time I have either had a chance to spar with someone, or actually have had a confrontation with someone and it seems like when my adrenaline kicks in it is always two things that automatically kick in for me. It is my boxing and my ground grappling. I have ran into friends that were in some sort of martial arts when we were young and it seems that my boxing skills are better then their martial arts skills.

If you want to learn how to fight, here is the best way. Don't spend your money on useless Karate. You can find it for free except other then a simple gym membership. There are always gyms that have places set up for fighters who come to town and they need someone to spar with so they can be ready for local fights. I did this for a lot of years and let me tell you what, I got my butt kicked. However, the guys were always grateful to have someone to spar with and after a while I began getting good at fighting. You learn a lot. The best is when you get done and they work with you and show you techniques. I also made some neat friends. Also, you will learn a variety of arts but what you realize is it all goes to the ground. I don't care how good you are at boxing, or martial arts, but if you can't fight on the ground you need to plan on losing.

[Country101]

You and Kimbo might be a good match. You'll have the same style.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by Country101

You and Kimbo might be a good match. You'll have the same style.

My nickname is Jimbo. Kimbo vs. Jimbo.