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Old 09-25-2012, 08:11 PM   #26
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I'm gonna go down there to Louisiana, find a nice high spot in a bayou and learn to make gator stew. Y'all come on down. We'll need all the gator bait we can get!
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:11 PM   #27
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I think if IT happens, all y'all up North gonna freeze to death, except for the ones that realize that and immediately head South, where we will have to shoot you to keep you from taking our stuff.

It prob'ly won't be purty.
But Ron, what if I show up at your door looking like this?
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Id come down... but I don't know if I'd go near the banjoes playing in the mountains that cross between you and I....
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But Ron, what if I show up at your door looking like this?
that would be one of those furry critters...Yummmm!
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that would be one of those furry critters...Yummmm!
Well then for you it will be,,,
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i agree... a small trusted group is the best way to go... a single person can't stay up 24 hours a day to keep watch. A small group is mobile if needed.. and doesn't hit a region hard when scrounging for resources. a group of 6 is easier to feed than a group of 20. my closest friends and I have an emergency plan in case the civilization goes TU. we have a pre designated meeting palce and time plus an alternate in case primary is notpossible due to a set criteria.. once we meet up.. we have a primary and a secondary place to make it to. our group has a good skill set. depending on how many of us make it.. we have a core group of 5 and a possible group of 8. in that group is 2 or 3 ex military, 3 with some sort of 1st responder or paramedic, or misc medical training, 4 with extensive driving capabilities ( trucks, tractors, semi-s, heavy equipment, boats etc.. ), one has had pilots training on single engine aircraft, 2 are teachers, 2 reload, 2 with engineering backgrounds, 1 with aircraft maintenance background, 3 that hunt, 2 with divers cards, 2 with communication equipment experience, ..

if it doesnt get us on the initial opening salvo.. I think we got a chance.

and es I agree.. civil unrest will be a problem. other unprepaired people wanting your stuff...
Your right a small group will be better than a large one.I think you would have to stay off the main roads and I would like to stay put if I could be I thinks where ever your hold up needs to be off the beaten path.Definetly stay away from big cities,they would have alot of places to hide and ambush you.I would like to take an old pick and reinforce it with steal in or in other words armor it up as best I could.That way if I had to make a resuppy run I would have some protection.You know like a madmax mobile.lol
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Your right a small group will be better than a large one.I think you would have to stay off the main roads and I would like to stay put if I could be I thinks where ever your hold up needs to be off the beaten path.Definetly stay away from big cities,they would have alot of places to hide and ambush you.I would like to take an old pick and reinforce it with steal in or in other words armor it up as best I could.That way if I had to make a resuppy run I would have some protection.You know like a madmax mobile.lol
that would be a '73 Australian Ford Falcon..(XB i think).
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Well then for you it will be,,,
Love it!
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Your right a small group will be better than a large one.I think you would have to stay off the main roads and I would like to stay put if I could be I thinks where ever your hold up needs to be off the beaten path.Definetly stay away from big cities,they would have alot of places to hide and ambush you.I would like to take an old pick and reinforce it with steal in or in other words armor it up as best I could.That way if I had to make a resuppy run I would have some protection.You know like a madmax mobile.lol
yup.. a place back off the main roads.. or not visible.. and has a source of water at least.. if not food capability
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I think it is wise to be prepared with what is in one's means. Water, water sources, food, clothing, bedding, hand tools, heat source, LOTS of anti septic wipes to avoid the spread of disease and plenty of mouth wash to kill airborne diseases which WILL be unavoidable. Propane, knives and a way to sharpen them (non-electric sharpener), axe's, tools, tools, and more tools, then of course guns and ammo. Don't forget the most important tools available to you,,, the Bible.

Most will lose their minds and panic and die. So if you just keep your cool and think everything through and rely on the Lord all will be fine.
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Love it!
That what the kitty wants is total honor,,, oh and tuna fish and lots of it.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:47 PM   #37
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I like tuna helper.My brother has a wood about a mile off the road.Theres no road that leads to it which is a good deturrent.You just drive on the edge of the field.Theres a pond right smack dab in the middle of the woods so we would just have to purify it.We would just need to build some kind of structure.That wouldnt be hard at all.I just hope I dont see it or my kids see it in there lifetime.But it sure dont look good.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:56 PM   #38
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Somebody up the thread said something about "we can all hunt and fish and grow our own food". Depends on where you live.

I live in town. Ain't a big town. Less than 100,000 in the whole county. But when I want to go hunting, I get in the truck and drive 40 to 60 miles, to the woods. Hard to do that with no gas. I could put a garden in the back yard, but I sure couldn't grow enough food to live on. And unless I've got a pretty good stockpile of foodstuffs, I'd starve before the stuff in the garden came ripe.

Jamestown. Virginia, which is MUCH warmer than Wisconsin. Half the colony died of starvation, the first year. Probably a whole lot more game then then now. Whole lot less people trying for it, too, but they still starved.
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I think it is wise to be prepared with what is in one's means. Water, water sources, food, clothing, bedding, hand tools, heat source, LOTS of anti septic wipes to avoid the spread of disease and plenty of mouth wash to kill airborne diseases which WILL be unavoidable. Propane, knives and a way to sharpen them (non-electric sharpener), axe's, tools, tools, and more tools, then of course guns and ammo. Don't forget the most important tools available to you,,, the Bible.

Most will lose their minds and panic and die. So if you just keep your cool and think everything through and rely on the Lord all will be fine.
yep.. that's the point of having a go or BOB bag. that lil headstart it gives you those first 3 days helps you deal with the panic and give you time to think, vs immediately having to scavange for food and water adn medical supplies the instant the 'it' hits the fan.

great point about mouthwash.. it's a great safe antiseptic!
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the "it" will be economic collapse first and foremost. we are living at an unsustainable rate, and now "they" say spain is the next country to follow greece. thinking we are not that far behind. after currency is no good, then we'll be back to the 1800's sure. and yes, the uban areas will spread out to take what you have, so groups make sense. think about all the gangbangers that'll need fuel, food, and ammo. over 1mil gang members in the united states right now. think civil defense will go after them? not likely. easier to take out small pockets of defenders than to mess with a horde. long road ahead to straighten out this mess
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if IT happens here's the why ( part of it .. )

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de1_1348618983
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:57 PM   #42
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what if "IT" is an EMP?
Every one seams to forget, that an EMP would also shut down the cooling system on the nuke power plants.
Whats to keep them from melting down?

I'm realy wondering.
This is somthing I have thought about.
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some plants have passive cooling.

in the event of simple loss of electronic control, I imagine there will be some manual fuel rod pulling, and / or scramming the reactor core with boron...
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:54 AM   #44
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I am another one in Michigan that wont be headed south. Got everything I need right here. As for freezing I have hunted several years out of a tent in the middle of winter. It is not that bad and far from freezing. Plenty of food, water, and other resources right here.
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if IT happens here's the why ( part of it .. )

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de1_1348618983
Great video Jack. If you folks haven't watched this, you need to. It explains why things are the way then are, and where these things will lead us. Our future is not a bright one, as far as man is concerned.
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it aint the whole story, but a good part of it ...
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I agree, a lot more to the story. What impressed me the most is that, although uninteded, it follows the Bible's prediction for our future!
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as these things always do..
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Most water and waste water plants are automated enough that the workers really aren't needed cept to run tests and maintenance. I know if the electric stays on ours will keep on workin till the pumps die from lack of care. Water won't be quite as good as before with no one there to clean the sand filters and add carbon or change the chlorine(ozone plants could make deseise free by makin ozone on site.) but it would have done most of the work where you would only have to boil it fer just a few minutes. If EMP then most people will be up the crick. I would start walkin fer my dads place I know I could survive there and also have enough people to help with chores and defense.Take a week or two to get there and would spend some time hungry durin winter but "A country boy can survive". My sister in law says if IT happens shes movin in. Might not be the tastiest thing to eat but she'll eat most of the time.
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