When "IT" happens (what ever IT may be)

[soundguy]

ironically.. preparation, of almost any kind is the key. people who have actually sat down and taked a few minutes to think about it, even if they don't have a go/bob bag loaded, are miles ahead of those that have never put thought to it, and when 'it' happens, they panic. those that have thought about it, can at least organize and start counting down items and procedures they have thought about VS going into panic mode. staying calm and staying alive will be big items...

[carver]

I agree that people who have actually sat down and taken a few minutes to think about it, even if they don't have a go/bob bag loaded, are miles ahead of those that have never put thought to it. The problem is that if you wait untill "it" happens, it's already too late. Those items for survival that you thought you might need, will no longer be available. When "it" happens, there will be a run on the stores, all stores! Within a few hours there won't be anything of value to anyone left on the shelves! You now have to take them from someone else who has prepared!

[soundguy]

Originally Posted by carver

I agree that people who have actually sat down and taked a few minutes to think about it, even if they don't have a go/bob bag loaded, are miles ahead of those that have never put thought to it. The problem is that if you wait untill "it" happens, it's already too late. Those items for survival that you thought you might need, will no longer be available. When "it" happens, there will be a run on the stores, all stores! Within a few hours there won't be anything of value to anyone left on the shelves! You now have to take them from someone else who has prepared!

what i menat was even if you don't have your items packed in a BOB or go bag.


the average household like has 3 days of food and wter ALREADY in it.

if nothing else a jug of tap water or some sodas and cans of tuna , candy pars, cans of soup.. etc.

anything you can pry open with a knife and gulp down will count in those first 3 critical days / 72 hours.


don't matter if it's a huge 5# bag of m&m's and a case of soda. it's fluid and calories and will keep you moving 3 days till you can figure out what 'it' is and where 'it ' is coming from and going. pretty much all the BOB does is get you ready to move or stay and give you a few days to think / plan on important stuff, and not immediatly worry where tomorrows breakfast is coming from.

thee average guy that has a good rough idea of a plan in his head but no BOB is still kinda ok. hit the house.. AVOID the streets and stores if they are mobbed.

raid pantry for pre cookec non perishible items and drinks.. or tap water if needed.. . no bag? a pillowcase works.. no pillow case? a tshirt works. knot off the arms and neck.

tube socks make great storage. stuff items in them, then tie off to your belt. you can untie at camp.. or if need access now and then, cut a slit in the top of the sock below the tie to the belt, and you can reach into the sock and retrieve items.

a long mans tube sockk holds quite a few apples... easy to carry too.

no camping knife? if nothing else.. the butcher knife fromt he kitchen works. almost all households have some sort of stiff bladed carving knife that will opent he thin food cans of today, and if pressed into it.. is a basic hand weapon ... ( tire iron from your gridlocked or stuck or broke down vehicle makes a good prybar to pry open containers, doors, pry planks of wood off pallates.. or windows.. or flipped around to use as a weapon.. )

a guy bugging out with a pillowcase full of soda and a loaf of bread and a butcher knife and tire iron is better that running around in the street screaming or wandering having to fight for food the next morning.

[ShawnDow]

I see everyone agrees on a "to go" bag of some sort... food, liquids, First Aide, cloths, and that sort... has anyone thought of dice? Sounds silly, but even in chaos, you need a bit of sanity.. (I watch too much Les Shroud "Survivor Man" and Baer Grilles.).. but a form of "entertainment" will be necessary to keep you calm and your mind sharp. I figure everyone has room for 5 dice.. yahtzee any one?

Any way.. back to the BOB/Go bags.. Ive been getting to the point that Im keeping my Hunting bag (that has a-lot of what the BOB/Go bags have) (less my firearms) in my truck at all times. I work 20 miles from my home... and in the event that "IT" happens and I'm at work.. I want a running chance to grab my hunting sack and make my 4 hour walk (assuming EMP) or 30 minuet drive back home. I wont have to worry about the "City-ots" rampaging, I live in the sticks of MI. I just need to make my journey home.

[soundguy]

yep.. good point.

I read a book about survival.. will gwt th name of it an post it when I remember.. it was something like 1000 survival tips or to that effect.

they very much reccomended an attenuated go bag for your vehicle and work... something small you could tuck under your desk, etc.

just like you mention.. in case you are at work when the 'it' hits the fan..e tc.

good points! deck of cards may not even be bad..

[Alpo]

Deck of cards is a survival tool. Get lost, lay out a hand of solitaire and someone will come along and tell you to play the red queen on the black king.

[ShawnDow]

that will work as long as that person has a good sense of direction.

[45nut]

Originally Posted by carver

I agree, a lot more to the story. What impressed me the most is that, although unintended, it follows the Bible's prediction for our future!

My thoughts too.

Originally Posted by jack404

as these things always do..

What a leader Jack is......knows the truth will set us free.

Originally Posted by Alpo

Deck of cards is a survival tool. Get lost, lay out a hand of solitaire and someone will come along and tell you to play the red queen on the black king.

And Alpo my favorite smartypants!! You are correct sir. I have a pack in my go bag too.

I keep my go bag in my truck and it has everything but my cliff bars. I've listed its contents before. My wife has a 72 hour kit in hers and we have a bigger one at home. Still need to get those cliff bars.

Thanks for all the good ideas. Just think what you will need vs. want and start to make a list, then start to put it together out of things already on hand.

[Alpo]

You could also put in a bottle of gin and one of vermouth. Someone will come along and tell you that you are mixing the martini wrong.

Deck of cards takes up less room, and don't normally break.

[ryan42]

Something has been bugging me.Ive been reading alot of apocalyptic books lately and a few have been about the EMP.They say if your electronics are in a faraday cage your good to go.Wouldnt your car be a faraday cage.you have medal on all sides and rubber tires.Im just wondering what you think.

[nmckenzie]

Originally Posted by ryan42

Wouldnt your car be a faraday cage.

As best I recollect from high school general science class (circa late '50s), the Faraday Cage has to be contructed of a highly conductive material - copper or brass I would imagine - in order to work.

[ShawnDow]

The electronics for a Dodge Durango (I have one) are for the most part under the hood... The engine compartment only has metal on 5 sides... the bottom is open... I think nmckenzie (Im thinking of the silly budweiser dog now... thanks a lot) is right.. the faraday cage is usually constructed of brass, and covers all sides, And I believe it is also grounded to discharge the induced current. I have a co worker who had a Mil sur-plus GMC truck that is "Hardened".. Ill have a look under his hood to see what it is the military does to shield the electrons, and get back to you.

[carver]

Originally Posted by ShawnDow

I see everyone agrees on a "to go" bag of some sort... food, liquids, First Aide, cloths, and that sort... has anyone thought of dice? Sounds silly, but even in chaos, you need a bit of sanity.. (I watch too much Les Shroud "Survivor Man" and Baer Grilles.).. but a form of "entertainment" will be necessary to keep you calm and your mind sharp. I figure everyone has room for 5 dice.. yahtzee any one?

Any way.. back to the BOB/Go bags.. Ive been getting to the point that Im keeping my Hunting bag (that has a-lot of what the BOB/Go bags have) (less my firearms) in my truck at all times. I work 20 miles from my home... and in the event that "IT" happens and I'm at work.. I want a running chance to grab my hunting sack and make my 4 hour walk (assuming EMP) or 30 minuet drive back home. I wont have to worry about the "City-ots" rampaging, I live in the sticks of MI. I just need to make my journey home.

I don't have a BOB. I live out in the sticks, and I ain't going nowhere! But, like you, I do have a get home bag. It's a med sized back pack, with things I think I might need to make a 25 mile walk back to the house. Fire starting equipment, water treatment tablets, water bottle (empty), rope, extra ammo, first aid kit, chemical lights, and some other things I might need.

[Double D]

Originally Posted by carver

I don't have a BOB. I live out in the sticks, and I ain't going nowhere! But, like you, I do have a get home bag. It's a med sized back pack, with things I think I might need to make a 25 mile walk back to the house. Fire starting equipment, water treatment tablets, water bottle (empty), rope, extra ammo, first aid kit, chemical lights, and some other things I might need.

Im like you carver, I am stayin put. I will fight to the death and then I will go on to where the streets are paved with pure gold and there are many mansions and the heck with this place anyhow. I have a better promise waiting. Im not running anywhere.

[time2shoot]

I'm staying put. don't plan on going anywear.
But do have a plan incase murfys law rears it's ugly head.

[nmckenzie]

Originally Posted by ShawnDow

(Im thinking of the silly budweiser dog now... thanks a lot)

Wow, did that bring back some funny memories! That dog's real name, by the way, was HONEY TREE EVIL-EYE.

[ShawnDow]

Originally Posted by nmckenzie

Wow, did that bring back some funny memories! That dog's real name, by the way, was HONEY TREE EVIL-EYE.

Just for you!

[nmckenzie]

Originally Posted by ShawnDow

Just for you!

Many thanks! That attatchment's going to be enlarged, printed, framed, and propped up here on my desk. Oh yeah, contrary to rumor, that photo is NOT one taken of me during an early '60s kegger. Thanks again.

[soundguy]

remember.. a BOB is also basically a BIB too.

[dad2thebone]

Im adding more shelving this weekend to my panic room as my supplies gain ground on me lol. I will S.I.P now im set up for it and defend my home. im retired and seldom go far but a bob for my truck is in need of a rebuild. energy bars /trail mix and a new first aid kit should set me up. I keep about 2 gals of water in it and rotate that 1 time a week to be safe.

[firefighter1635]

Originally Posted by Double D

Im like you carver, I am stayin put. I will fight to the death and then I will go on to where the streets are paved with pure gold and there are many mansions and the heck with this place anyhow. I have a better promise waiting. Im not running anywhere.

I'm like both of you. I made a thread here once, something about fleeing the country for another if SHTF but the more i've thought about it, and the more my beliefs have came through i'm not going anywhere! I was born a free man, i'll die a free man.

[soundguy]

if at all possible I'm staying home.. if that becomes impossible.. I have 3 locations chosen that my 'group' will try for.. primary best of course.. etc...

[Jerryboy]

i would advise those of you who plan to bug in to keep a BOB anyway, and keep it somewhere outside of your house. when the SHTF, and there are no fire departments to douse your house when a candle gets knocked over or your make-shift fireplace gets out of control you may find yourself bugging out whether you planned to or not.

[soundguy]

yep.. BOB / BIB are basically the same thing.

[1LoneWolf75]

Originally Posted by soundguy

if at all possible I'm staying home.. if that becomes impossible.. I have 3 locations chosen that my 'group' will try for.. primary best of course.. etc...

I have one extra location, and I will probably wind up there in the end anyway. Don't really have a bag yet just a bunch of stuff. My main concern will be gettin the 5 miles to the house to protect wife and kids. Not far to walk but figure an hour afore I walk in the door.