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What are some good uses for assault rifles and handguns other than for sport? I am sick and tired of people saying that there is no need or use or good reason for people to own them. So I want to be able to say something to make them shut up.
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Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NH
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Are personal protection and self defense dirty words?
Just tell them the voices told you to buy them.
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NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle
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Location: Australia
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Geo sampling
on cliffs where strata is exposed a shot with a big pure lead slug can drop samples for geotechnologists Envirinmental protection a shot at a branch on trees where the viable seeds are found toward the top ( away from seed eaters like squirrels rats etc) can drop a branch with these viable seeds and be used to protect the species entertainment shooting galleries are not only fun but provide needed jobs and the best excuse for a gun cleaning the gene pool of generational criminals meaning kids of criminals who are the kids of criminals themselves and all who live off the system and honest working folks not only does this have long term effects but if imposed would drastically cut the crime rate and influence parent to teach thier kids to "fly straight" cheers jack |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mobile, Al.
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By sport, I'm thinking you mean target shooting(?).
How about hunting, self defense, and zombie killing? Thing is, you have to accept that they will probably NEVER shut up! (That is, unless you can persuade them to go to the range with you and try it for themselves!).
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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A despot would have to respect millions of
his subjects owning and using such " tools ". They are also multi purpose. I would rather hunt with my Sako, but the H&K will also accomplish that task. |
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Testing hearing protection, body armour, and reloading abilities.
Last but not least: How many firearms can you fit into 26,000 cubic inches of safe. I like Jacks response the best.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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OM Gosh...who could not like Jack...dude kudos.
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A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence |
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Location: Montgomery, AL
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I've mainly used my handguns for recreational shooting, I don't own a AR/AK style rifle/shotgun because I like the old fashioned bolt/slide action and lever action rifles. I think they look cool, but I haven't bought one because I just don't see a real reason to go out and buy one.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Can't think of why "other uses" - or "any uses FTM" - need justification. How 'bout' "because I like it, ****** Edited for language "
Kinda hard to "justify" buying a mined diamond, or just about any other gem stone in this era of manufactured stones. Or a humongous vehicle with nothing to tow or haul, but lots of folks do so.....!! Does your 'better half' really need those expensive designer threads ? Do you ? To make my point - with a sledgehammer - many, if not most, of our expensive purchases are made more on the basis of 'want', rather than 'need'. The beauty of firearms purchases, is they endure far longer than more ephermeral, (and less durable) expensive purchases we routinely make. Moreover, they are 'flexible', having multiple applications based upon need/circumstances. IOW, you can always sell a gun, but not always that diamond or vehicle...... >MW |
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Because the best defense of tyranny is a well armed public, and to be well armed, the public must have every tool at their disposal.
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Get the real ones and "you" won't be disappointed...get one that looks real, yeah it's pretty and more brilliant than a natural stone...but it ain't real, it's a fake, an immitation and back in "your" head..."you" know it ain't therefore "you" will not be satisfied. But "you" don't need big honkin' gawdy stones... And that didn't sound stupid to me...
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A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence Last edited by navis128; 01-28-2010 at 06:58 PM.. |
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Because I LIKE it and it makes me happy, period!
If we started taking things away from people simply because there is an alternate version that didn't "scare" people around them I wonder how quickly they would agree. America stands for freedom... If you want a huge, gas guzzling dually pickup or SUV for nothing more than running around town, when a compact would easily fit the bill, even when fuel prices are outrageous, it makes you happy and it's none of my business, even though the fuel problem scares the heck out of me. Do I "need" an AR-15 when a bolt action .223 would do the job? No I don't, but it makes me happy... I like it and to be honest I couldn't possibly care less what anyone else thinks. They certainly don't care what I think! Tell 'em to take a flying leap. Crpdeth
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You can tell them That when a Intruder breaks into your house and wants to murder your grandmother, rape your wife, and kidnap your daughter, your best defense is the AR 15 and the 45 ACP.
REASON ENOUGH ! |
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Because they sell movies and papers, just ask anyone in Holly-weird or the News-me-D-I.
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First of all, mine has never assaulted anyone so please do not call it an assault weapon. Hitler, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden and a host of other unpleasant creatures gave it that name unfairly. The baseball bat used by a thug to beat his woman... call that an assault weapon. Then try to ban it.
The main reasons I own one are... Target shooting, hunting, self / home defense, collecting, military history, mechanical interests, etc. Whenever someone asks why I need one, I feel that this quote answers it better than I could. I do not know who to attribute it to. Why do I need an "assault weapon?" Answer: You don't. You don't need an "assault weapon" any more than you need the right to speak freely, or the right to vote, or the right to drive whatever car you want, or the right to eat at whatever restaurant you want, or the right to protection from unreasonable search and seizure. If the government says you can only eat at one restaurant, can only drive mopeds, can not vote and can not speak without permission and can not ever speak against the government, and if the government can search your house anytime they want to... you won't die. None of those are NEEDS. Then, ask how much they like their first amendment or fourth amendment rights... if they even know what those amendments are. Tell them you like your second, and that the concept of freedom is not based on need- that would be communism. Freedom is based on being able to indulge in individual desires without repercussion. And also tell them that the constitution is a set of pillars upon which our republic is based... take down one pillar and you weaken the whole structure, so much so that other pillars may fall as well... or all of it could fall.
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I can't think of any good reason people should have golf clubs.........I don't have them so why should anybody else have them? (sounds like a liberal huh?)
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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I think if the weirdows want another Assault Weapons ban they should go after Holly-weird for using them to sell movies. What else would they use to give their audiences the bang for their buck. Remember Chuck Conners in the Rifleman, now that was an assault rifle? If one so chooses a can kill someone quickly,silently with a slingshot remember David?
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BTW, tell them to define an assault rifle. You just can't argue with stupid.oldogy
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ue"]If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying -- " Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah)[/COLOR] |
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I thought this was a free country! Am I wrong?
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read your sig carver...
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Location: SW Florida
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Just tell them that it is your constitutional right, just like it is their right to speak.
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why did tiger play 72 holes every day? practice must make perfect
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Just say "without them, how can we shoot liberals".
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