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Join Date: Dec 2009
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i own a .22 rim fire revolver.
it has~2 inch octagon shaped barrel's and on the left side of the barrel it's marked .22RIM FIRE and upon the barrel it's marked H. & R.ARMS COMPANY. WORCESTER.MASS.U.S.A. It's a 7 shot. I've looked all over the gun and cannot find any other marks or stamps anywhere. the serial number is under the grip is 20950. ihave attached some pics..
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: houston, tx
Posts: 3,174
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the Hammerless Model H&R in 22 rimfire is another rare revolver. not so much in value but in the fact that not many of them were made. this model was actually cataloged as the H&R Hammerless Bicycle Model until the 1920's. i have listed the regular hammerless models but this model may have had its own serial number series and at the least does not follow the known pattern of other hammerless models.
H&R HAMMERLESS SECOND MODEL SMALL FRAME TOP BREAK (SMOKELESS POWDER)----------------------------------------1905-1941 Small Frame Double Action Hammerless Top Break revolver with double top post barrel latch; caliber and cylinder capacity, 32 S&W (5 rounds), 22 Rimfire (7 rounds); finish is nickel or blue (optional); grips are hard rubber with a target logo at the top; standard barrel length is 3 ¼ inch, with 4, 5 and 6 inch optional; rebounding hammer; automatic cylinder stop, caliber marking on left side of barrel. CALIBER MARKINGS ON LEFT SIDE OF BARREL DESIGNED FOR SMOKELESS POWDER CARTRIDGE PRESSURES ONLY First Variation, patent dates 5-14-89, 4-2-95, 4-7-96, serial number range 90000*-100000* (estimate)--------------------------1905-1906 Second Variation, patent dates 4-2-95, 4-7-96 serial number range 100000*-120000* (estimate)-------------------------------1907-1909 Third Variation, patent date 10-8-95, serial number range 120000*-180000* (estimate)----------------------------------------1910-1913 Fourth Variation no patent dates small font use for company name. serial number range 180000*-190000*(estimate)------------1914-only Fifth variation, large font used in company name and state not spelled out (MASS), serial number range 190000*-200000* (estimate)----1915-only Sixth Variation, state name in address spelled out (MASSACHUSETTS) serial number range 200000*-220000* (estimate)------------1916-1924 Seventh Variation, new grip frame it is now same width as rest of frame no step down for grips, serial number range unknown---------1925-1942 After 1930 listed in catalogs as: HAMMERLESS No. 40 TOP BREAK 22 Rimfire7 shot and HAMMERLESS No. 45 TOP BREAK 32 S&W 5 shot VALUE: 100%=$265 60%=$75 Add 10% premium for blue finish; 20% premium 4”, 5” or 6” barrel; 20% premium for 22 rimfire caliber H&R HAMMERLESS BICYCLE SECOND MODEL----------------------1905-1920 Same as H&R Hammerless First Model except 2 inch barrel only and 22 Rimfire 7 shot, 32 S&W 5 shot, all else is the same, not listed as a separate model after 1920 but 2 inch barrel was still available. VALUE: 100%=$295 60%=$145 Add 10% premium for blue finish; 20% premium for 22 rimfire caliber bill
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Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com Last edited by b.goforth; 12-15-2009 at 12:48 PM.. |
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Former Guest
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kentucky
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that looks like it is in excellent shape mechanically, i've never seen one of those, not even in pictures. i like it
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2006
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What's with the left grip panel?? Has the top been broken off and replaced or was it made that way?
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
Posts: 2,980
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Left grip panel should also have the Pat'd square bull's eye logo - that one's been modified.
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
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That left grip is half original. The bottom part is original, but the top part is a filler material that was added to replace a broken part. The checkering pattern is hand done, and the H&R trademark could not be reproduced so that part was just left blank. How much that affects value, I am not sure, but it is not as good as having the right grip.
If you want a set of grips, try www.gungrips.com and see if they have repro grips for that gun. Jim |
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