Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? - The Firearms Forum

Lori Mick · 03-03-2009, 08:15 PM

hmmm????? This is not the first time people have been silenced.....
several people have had their jobs threatened !

U.S. soldier gagged on prez's eligibility
Military member seeking documentation silenced

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Posted: March 03, 2009
8:48 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

A member of the U.S. military whose suspicions about Barack Obama's eligibility to be president prompted him to sign onto a legal demand being sent to Attorney General Eric Holder has been silenced.

Attorney Orly Taitz, the California activist who through her DefendOurFreedoms.us foundation is assembling the case, told WND today she's been informed one of the members of the military has been ordered by commanding officers not to speak with media.

The officer's identity was withheld to prevent further actions against him.

However, Taitz confirmed to WND there would be no lack of plaintiffs in her action, which challenges Obama to prove by what authority he operates as commander in chief.

Another active-duty soldier, who identified himself as Staff Sgt. Alan Craig James, volunteered to be identified publicly as a plaintiff in the case, Taitz said.

She said she already has a list of 101 volunteers in her case demanding Obama's proof of eligibility.

(Story continues below)

WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90682

chemfantry · 03-03-2009, 08:20 PM

Can't say that I am suprised.

glocknut · 03-03-2009, 08:23 PM

On par with Hugo Chavez....

mike
gn

artabr · 03-03-2009, 09:23 PM

It's sad that a person that takes an oath to defend the Constitution has no freedom of speech.

Art

ponycar17 · 03-03-2009, 09:34 PM

There is more coming... If the dissent gets to officers, and then to commanders we better hold on.

Marlin T · 03-03-2009, 09:43 PM

Pony, the number of high ranking officers are up now, finally. From all branches too.

ponycar17 · 03-03-2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin T

Pony, the number of high ranking officers are up now, finally. From all branches too.

Marlin T, that's some reassuring but scary information...

94z07 · 03-03-2009, 10:12 PM

I do wonder what the enlistment figures have been since the Chosen One was "elected".

Lori Mick · 03-04-2009, 06:05 AM

I read somewhere else that a man had asked some FBI people about this whole situation and he was told that no one was allowed to discuss it or they would be fired from their posts. And wondering if that's the reason the media leaves it alone.

I keep getting a bad feeling in my gut that this was planned in order to spark an uproar so all those camps can be used. Or maybe it was just a bad dream.

I dunno. Something just doesn't make sense.
and now the intentional disregard for the stock market.
sigh

satellite66 · 03-04-2009, 06:10 AM

What do you think the media would have done had the military questioned Bush??? We would see wall to wall coverage with alert banners and special reports. It would have been a feeding frenzy.

Lori Mick · 03-04-2009, 06:24 AM

I totally agree.....and we can't say anything about the mighty o without being labled.

I do thank God for Rush and Sean and Glenn and Mark etc etc.... because they say what we think. But...they too never say anything about the eligibility thing and that's what makes me curious.

358 winchester · 03-04-2009, 06:39 AM

Stock up bunker down & hold on it is just about to get started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ampaterry · 03-04-2009, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lori Mick

. . . .
I keep getting a bad feeling in my gut that this was planned in order to spark an uproar so all those camps can be used. Or maybe it was just a bad dream.
. . . .

OK, I HAVE to ask this, and this could be the perfect place.
Years ago when we listened to a LOT of talk radio, everyone was talking about these camps all prepared and empty for the encarceration of citizens who required re-education into the liberal agenda. We heard it so much that we became convinced these were REAL! We noticed that just about everyone was giving the same list of camps, too, so we figured this had to be accurate.
Once on a trip to Florida, we decided to check some of them out; you will notice several within this corridor, especially around Atlanta.
We DROVE there and LOOKED, folks.
Guess what we found?
A State prison - complete, staffed, and FULL OF PRISONERS.
A Federal prison - complete, staffed, and FULL OF PRISONERS.

These two locations had been on EVERY LIST we had ever heard and read about, and they were simply normal prisons, not empty facilities waiting for Patriots.

My question is simply this:
Has ANYONE here actually DRIVEN to one of these locations and INVESTIGATED it?

It behooves us to do so, lest our OTHER claims be seen as false as these are.

358 winchester · 03-04-2009, 07:46 AM

And the FBI says

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ

and the Denver news reports
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3FV8...eature=related
I can furnish many more if you want them.

SaddleSarge · 03-04-2009, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94z07

I do wonder what the enlistment figures have been since the Chosen One was "elected".

When the economy goes bad, enlistments go up. December 08 showed an increase of enlistments.

Economy's down, enlistments are up

jacksonco · 03-04-2009, 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=Lori Mick;405630]I keep getting a bad feeling in my gut that this was planned in order to spark an uproar so all those camps can be used. Or maybe it was just a bad dream. QUOTE]

There will not be any so called education camps Lori. They would be ruled as unconstitutional by the courts.

They would most likely use 6 foot deep underground bunkers.

delta13soultaker · 03-04-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ampaterry

OK, I HAVE to ask this, and this could be the perfect place.
Years ago when we listened to a LOT of talk radio, everyone was talking about these camps all prepared and empty for the encarceration of citizens who required re-education into the liberal agenda. We heard it so much that we became convinced these were REAL! We noticed that just about everyone was giving the same list of camps, too, so we figured this had to be accurate.
Once on a trip to Florida, we decided to check some of them out; you will notice several within this corridor, especially around Atlanta.
We DROVE there and LOOKED, folks.
Guess what we found?
A State prison - complete, staffed, and FULL OF PRISONERS.
A Federal prison - complete, staffed, and FULL OF PRISONERS.

These two locations had been on EVERY LIST we had ever heard and read about, and they were simply normal prisons, not empty facilities waiting for Patriots.

My question is simply this:
Has ANYONE here actually DRIVEN to one of these locations and INVESTIGATED it?

It behooves us to do so, lest our OTHER claims be seen as false as these are.

Ampaterry....that big list of 800 "concentration camps" that's been posted etc...

Many of those locations/installations listed are places I work, have recently worked, or have to travel to often or recently...and they ain't any concentration camps there.

I repeat what I already said...fearmongering bulls**t in my opinion.

P.S. How come there hasn't been a peep in the Army Times about any Soldiers challenging the president? That would be page 7 news!

Deathbunny · 03-05-2009, 08:29 AM

Well, here I go, swimming against the current.

All due respect to the troop for his service, but he's an idiot. I hated every President I served under, but I kept my mouth shut for 2 reasons: 1) it is improper to criticize your command outside of appropriate channels (like in the media) and 2) the President is at the top of our chain of command.
Like it or not, the President is the Commander in Chief (CINC). Now, if these troops REALLY think Obama isn't legally President, fine. It's time to say "I quit. I'm leaving the military because I swore to uphold & defend the Constitution and his Presidency is illegal." Then, hire a lawyer and get to court.
What you DON'T do is sign some dumba$$ petition or letter. Particularly since such a document has no more legal weight than a letter to Penthouse.

Just One Shot · 03-05-2009, 08:43 AM

Everyone needs to go into the link and sign the petition at the bottom of the story!

03-03-2009, 08:15 PM	#1
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? hmmm????? This is not the first time people have been silenced..... several people have had their jobs threatened ! U.S. soldier gagged on prez's eligibility Military member seeking documentation silenced -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: March 03, 2009 8:48 pm Eastern By Bob Unruh © 2009 WorldNetDaily A member of the U.S. military whose suspicions about Barack Obama's eligibility to be president prompted him to sign onto a legal demand being sent to Attorney General Eric Holder has been silenced. Attorney Orly Taitz, the California activist who through her DefendOurFreedoms.us foundation is assembling the case, told WND today she's been informed one of the members of the military has been ordered by commanding officers not to speak with media. The officer's identity was withheld to prevent further actions against him. However, Taitz confirmed to WND there would be no lack of plaintiffs in her action, which challenges Obama to prove by what authority he operates as commander in chief. Another active-duty soldier, who identified himself as Staff Sgt. Alan Craig James, volunteered to be identified publicly as a plaintiff in the case, Taitz said. She said she already has a list of 101 volunteers in her case demanding Obama's proof of eligibility. (Story continues below) WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President." Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time. Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born. Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now! http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90682 __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free." -->

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03-03-2009, 09:23 PM	#4
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03-04-2009, 06:05 AM	#9
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? I read somewhere else that a man had asked some FBI people about this whole situation and he was told that no one was allowed to discuss it or they would be fired from their posts. And wondering if that's the reason the media leaves it alone. I keep getting a bad feeling in my gut that this was planned in order to spark an uproar so all those camps can be used. Or maybe it was just a bad dream. I dunno. Something just doesn't make sense. and now the intentional disregard for the stock market. sigh __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

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satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	Re: Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? What do you think the media would have done had the military questioned Bush??? We would see wall to wall coverage with alert banners and special reports. It would have been a feeding frenzy. __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

03-04-2009, 06:24 AM	#11
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? I totally agree.....and we can't say anything about the mighty o without being labled. I do thank God for Rush and Sean and Glenn and Mark etc etc.... because they say what we think. But...they too never say anything about the eligibility thing and that's what makes me curious. __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

03-04-2009, 06:39 AM	#12
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? Stock up bunker down & hold on it is just about to get started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

03-04-2009, 07:46 AM	#14
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? And the FBI says http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ and the Denver news reports http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3FV8...eature=related I can furnish many more if you want them. __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand? Last edited by 358 winchester; 03-04-2009 at 07:55 AM..

03-04-2009, 01:49 PM	#16
jacksonco Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jackson County West Virginia Posts: 2,237	Re: Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? [QUOTE=Lori Mick;405630]I keep getting a bad feeling in my gut that this was planned in order to spark an uproar so all those camps can be used. Or maybe it was just a bad dream. QUOTE] There will not be any so called education camps Lori. They would be ruled as unconstitutional by the courts. They would most likely use 6 foot deep underground bunkers.

03-05-2009, 08:29 AM	#18
Deathbunny Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 290	Re: Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? Well, here I go, swimming against the current. All due respect to the troop for his service, but he's an idiot. I hated every President I served under, but I kept my mouth shut for 2 reasons: 1) it is improper to criticize your command outside of appropriate channels (like in the media) and 2) the President is at the top of our chain of command. Like it or not, the President is the Commander in Chief (CINC). Now, if these troops REALLY think Obama isn't legally President, fine. It's time to say "I quit. I'm leaving the military because I swore to uphold & defend the Constitution and his Presidency is illegal." Then, hire a lawyer and get to court. What you DON'T do is sign some dumba$$ petition or letter. Particularly since such a document has no more legal weight than a letter to Penthouse.

03-05-2009, 08:43 AM	#19
Just One Shot V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 432	Re: Soldier silenced ..... gee I wonder why??? Everyone needs to go into the link and sign the petition at the bottom of the story!