Obama' call for a national police force.

[swiftman]

Obama restated his call for a national police force today, with the same power and force as the US military, to have the same amount of money spent on them as the military. WHY??????
Will they wear brown shirts or black, will they be called SA, SS, Gestapo or just secret police, why are they needed, who is he afraid of????

[Big ugly]

I tell you one thing. Obama is even losing the confidence of his fellow Black's. I was in a heated conversation with some friends all 20 of us and out of 20 14 where black and they are afraid of his politics. I can see now that this is goin to be ugly.

[Vladimir]

Curious since he never made such a call before, today would be the first.

Let's do the Conservative movement a favor and attack Obama in only legitimate ways.

(Watch the entire clip of his speech, it is so glaringly obvious that he is talking about organizations like the Peace Corps, the 6 second sound-bite even had me convinced, but trust me, the entire thing is very clear).

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

Curious since he never made such a call before, today would be the first.

Let's do the Conservative movement a favor and attack Obama in only legitimate ways.

(Watch the entire clip of his speech, it is so glaringly obvious that he is talking about organizations like the Peace Corps, the 6 second sound-bite even had me convinced, but trust me, the entire thing is very clear).

No, at least once during the campaign he very CLEARLY stated that he thinks we need a civilian national defense force that is the same size of the military and has the same funding and equipment. It set off warning bells then, and it still does. He's up to no good.

[Vladimir]

Go listen to the entire sound clip, that isn't at at what he says. The things Rahm has to say are way more frightening than anything Barack has said on the matter.

You are doing the conservative movement damage when you deal in rumor and speculation. This is no different than the liberals claiming Rush Limbaugh want's America to fail. You got to look at the facts.

*Unless there is some speech out there I don't know about, but I can hear almost word for word still the one everyone references on this topic.*

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

If you say it, it must be true. Go listen to the entire sound clip, that isn't at at what he says. The things Rahm has to say are way more frightening than anything Barack has said on the matter.

You are doing the conservative movement damage when you deal in rumor and speculation. This is no different than the liberals claiming Rush Limbaugh want's America to fail. You got to look at the facts.

Unless there is some speech out there I don't know about, but I can hear almost word for word still the one everyone references on this topic.

I HEARD Obama say that during the campaign. It is NOT rumor when I heard those words come out of his mouth with my OWN EARS! He HAS said this BEFORE. He said it in one of his speaches. I KNOW what I heard, thank you.

[22WRF]

Hear it come out of his mouth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

[Vladimir]

It's this speech here isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

EDIT: Okay you just posted the SAME exact video right as I did hehe. Now go watch the COMPLETE speech. It is so glaringly obvious he is talking about organizations like the Peace Corps and not a police force. Trust me, it is the same exact thing as Rush Limbaugh- you have to hear the complete thing. A 10 second sound bite probably could have made Jesus look like a bad guy.

What is much more frightening in relation to this is what Rahm had to say, it was a while ago so I don't recall for sure but I believe he called for this kind of service being mandatory!

[AL MOUNT]

Originally Posted by bcj1755

he thinks we need a civilian national defense force

Then he can say "they don't need guns anymore"... Hello Adolph ..


The moron is to stupid to realize there allready is a civilian national defense force.

You me and everyone else on the forum

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by AL MOUNT

Then he can say "they don't need guns anymore"... Hello Adolph ..


The moron is to stupid to realize there allready is a civilian national defense force.

You me and everyone else on the forum

You hit it right square on the head. I've been saying that I'm sure this national defence forse fo Barry's will be the ones collecting guns, and I still stand by that.

Well Al, according to the Constitution, I am a member of the militia A good majority of us on here are.

[Hells Toy Master]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

It's this speech here isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

EDIT: Okay you just posted the SAME exact video right as I did hehe. Now go watch the COMPLETE speech. It is so glaringly obvious he is talking about organizations like the Peace Corps and not a police force. Trust me, it is the same exact thing as Rush Limbaugh- you have to hear the complete thing. A 10 second sound bite probably could have made Jesus look like a bad guy.

What is much more frightening in relation to this is what Rahm had to say, it was a while ago so I don't recall for sure but I believe he called for this kind of service being mandatory!

Vlad...

Your words are the exact reason he brought up the subject while talking about the Peace corps.. and your right that we have more powerful ammo to use agenst him... like him useing the power of the presedent to attack a civilian. ( Rush )

At the same time I am sure that he wants a Police state and we must be watchful of his words cause he has no intentions of hiding alot of what he is doing... ( his level of arrogence is out of this world. )

[islenos]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

It is so glaringly obvious he is talking about organizations like the Peace Corps and not a police force.

He said "A Civilian National Security Force" to address the National Security Objectives; so when has the Peace Corps ever been a 'Security Force'?

[Vladimir]

Originally Posted by islenos

He said "A Civilian National Security Force" to address the National Security Objectives; so when has the Peace Corps ever been a 'Security Force'?

If you want to ignore the facts that is fine by me. I am telling you, watch the complete speech, or even just the few minutes surrounding the soundbite. There is no excuse for living in ignorance. Before you might have been misinformed, as I pointed out I initially was when I heard the soundbite. But when the entire speech is available and you won't listen to it and continue to attack the president on rumors you are living in willful ignorance and embodying the kind of attacks we just spent 8 years denouncing.

[22WRF]

The Libocraps had their 8 years of daily bashing Bush. That illegal alien POS now occupying the whitehouse can't be bashed enough.

[Teejay9]

"Get your belongings on the truck! You will be resettled in Death Valley!" TJ

[islenos]

Vlad, I did read the entire speech. Just because he talked about the Peace Corps a paragraph earlier doesn't mean that he was referring to Peace Corps when he call for a Civilian National Security Force.

[jacksonco]

I have no input to give on this thread. However I have found the banter to be most entertaining. Keep it civil and have fun! Debates are great!

[new308handloader]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

It's this speech here isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

EDIT: Okay you just posted the SAME exact video right as I did hehe. Now go watch the COMPLETE speech. It is so glaringly obvious he is talking about organizations like the Peace Corps and not a police force. Trust me, it is the same exact thing as Rush Limbaugh- you have to hear the complete thing. A 10 second sound bite probably could have made Jesus look like a bad guy.

What is much more frightening in relation to this is what Rahm had to say, it was a while ago so I don't recall for sure but I believe he called for this kind of service being mandatory!

Vladimir....I don't see your reasoning.....I don't think he is talking about organizations like the Peace Corps....here is the exact verbiage from the link:

We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.


Read and listen to his words.....a civilian force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded


I don't think the Peace Corps is as powerful as the military....but he wants his new force to be.....if it is as powerful, as strong and as well funded then the military, then it will be a force that is more powerful then the police force that is under the DOJ.

My 2 cents.....any increase in force belongs with the police force under the DOJ....not the DOD.

[neptoon]

We do have such a force already.It is called the citizens of the United States of America.We shure do not need anything at all from the hands of this crackpot in the white house.

[Vladimir]

Originally Posted by new308handloader

I don't think the Peace Corps is as powerful as the military....but he wants his new force to be.....if it is as powerful, as strong and as well funded then the military, then it will be a force that is more powerful then the police force that is under the DOJ.

That's because you probably aren't coming from a liberal (foreign relations wise) perspective.

The idea is that we support organizations like the Peace Corps, put as much faith in them as we put into the military and in turn people hate us less because they see more how much good we do.

I'm liberal foreign-relations wise (has very little in common with liberal/conservative domestically) and the idea has merit. He is nuts (and probably isn't even suggesting it so much as exagerating for the granduer of speech) if he thinks we should rely just as much on volunteer type organizations as the military. But the idea does have merit. There are areas in Africa George W. Bush is heralded as a hero because of the things we have done for them.

[CliffinTx]

Originally Posted by AL MOUNT

Then he can say "they don't need guns anymore"... Hello Adolph ..


The moron is to stupid to realize there allready is a civilian national defense force.

You me and everyone else on the forum

Gotta give you some "love" on that Airborne factual statement ! Legs can only dream it we lived it.

[swiftman]

Yes we already have a civilian defense force called the 2nd amendment, but I don't think he trusts us types since he does think you need a pistol or large capacity semi auto rifle for self defense. Maybe your great grandfathers muzzle loading shotgun or rifle would suit him , since you can't fight the military or civilian defense for with one and survive for long.
He and his types want to ignore what the 2nd amendment really means.

[Mr. Nameless]

We have that, its called the DEA.

[satellite66]

You must be a college student Vlad?