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In what is being described as one of the most astounding power grabs in modern history by newspaper headlines around the World, President Obama has succeeded in his audacious plan to remake America into a full fledged godless communist empire barely one year into his term with the enactment into law by the US Congress of his mammoth health care plan innocuously named H.R. 3200-Americas Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 and described by one Kremlin legal expert as having “nothing at all to do with health, but everything to do with control.” To fully grasp the full and grim implications of Obama’s power grab over the American people with his Nationalization of the United States entire health care industry and student loan programme accomplished with the passing of this new law, it must be remembered that since taking office on January 20, 2009 he has also taken over their automobile, mortgage, and banking industries too with the Internet said being next “in his sights”. More insidious than these takeovers that have been destroying America’s once vibrant capitalistic system is the new regime these once free peoples are now destined to live under, and where under their new health care law will require all of them to carry a National ID card (page 58) and allow their government unlimited access to all of their bank accounts and personal records (page 159). And in a chilling instance of the ancient prophecies for these time of “The Mark of the Beast” becoming reality, the National ID card all of the American people will now be required to possess (regardless of age) is to be combined with their new government ID card under their upcoming new immigration laws allowing them to work and is biometrically designed to “read” the backs of their hands. [Note: According to the Christian Bibles Book of Revelations, the ancients warned of a future time when everyone, both small and great, rich and poor, free or slave, would receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads which without they would not be able buy or sell anything.] Though many have tried to warn these Americans about the plans for their Nations destruction at the hands of the Obama backed communist forces who have taken over their country [including our March 2nd report “Russia Warns US Communist Threat Endangering Entire World”] the propaganda organs in the United States have rendered silent nearly all opposition and dissident views from reaching them and they remain asleep to the true dangers soon to come upon them. The same, however, cannot be said about the rest of the World where during this past week alone, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon signed a cooperation agreement with a Russia-led security group of ex-Soviet Nations as a counterbalance to the US led NATO forces (who are currently expanding their wars against the Muslim Nations to steal their vast oil and gas wealth) and one of China’s top military officers called for his Nation to build the World’s strongest military and move swiftly to topple the United States as the Global “champion.” To how ignorant the American people have become to the yoke of communist oppression being pressed upon them by Obama’s forces we can glimpse from a report in today’s Los Angeles Times that says “The Democratic administration of Barack Obama, who denounced his predecessor, George W. Bush, as the most secretive in history, is now denying more Freedom of Information Act requests than the Republican did.” And as to why Obama and his communist forces would seek to keep from the American people what is really being done to them we had, also, previously warned about in our February 12th report “The “End Of Days” Are Upon Us, Warns Russian Patriarch” and wherein we had stated: “Patriarch Cyril warns in his report though that the Motherlands efforts to halt the West’s godlessness “may be too late” as evidenced by the rising use among their political, military, banking and celebrity elite classes of the ancient Babylonian “Sign of the Horns” [formed by extending the index and little fingers while holding the middle and ring fingers down with the thumb, see photo bottom left] honoring the ancient god Marduk (Sumerian spelling in Akkadian: AMAR.UTU meaning “solar calf”).” Now most important to remember about these ancient enemies of our human race Obama and his communist forces have aligned themselves with is how truly predictable they are; including the United States passing of their health care bill during the 2010 Vernal (Spring) Solstice [when daytime and nighttime are equal length] as a “celebration” to the ancient goddess Ēostre whose name was given to the Christian festival of Easter but whose origins stretch back into the mists of time to the mystery religions of Rome where the Cybele cult preformed their child sacrifices on what was then known as Vatican hill, but today is known as the home of the Pope. And in these monsters predictability by aligning themselves with the ancient dates and ceremonies of old also comes the most secure protection from their destructive plans; such as the United States March 4, 2001 airing of the Lone Gunman television programmes pilot episode where an American government plot to fly remotely controlled planes into the World Trade Center was discovered, and which was exactly 6 months and 7 days from when the actual attack occurred. It goes without saying, of course, that the propaganda media organs beholden to their godless communist masters will never inform their peoples about these things, and for those of us who do there is always great danger. But as the events in the United States are now showing to even those most in denial about what is truly happening, the time nears when hard choices will have to be made by everyone if freedom for our human race is to be saved.
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Not to worry! According to the Mayan calender, the world will end in 2012. I can put up with Communism that long.
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What about we who are not Mayans? Communism lasted in Russia for 70 years. What a he** of a legacy to leave our children. I will point out it only lasted 70 years because there was a United States of America.
How long would it last with nothing to oppose it? Perhaps that is the real meaning the Mayans had in mind.
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The older I get, the more I am impressed with the wisdom of the 1776 Revolutionaries. After two centuries, the same form of government is still more-or-less intact, and we're still having free elections..... but the Constitution has taken a terrible beating over the past 100 years.
Now our country has been bankrupted by politicians from both parties, and the "closet Communist" in the White House has the means to assemble his "internal security force". I don't know what's coming. Dark clouds on the horizon. If the globalists are smart, they will continue doing what they've done over the past century - make incremental changes, slowly, nothing that would spark a widespread revolt. I'm glad I got to see the United States of the 1950s, and I hope I won't live long enough to see the final transformation into a corrupt socialist cesspool. Last edited by ofitg; 03-27-2010 at 05:45 PM.. |
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"...In what is being described as one of the most astounding power grabs in modern history by newspaper headlines around the World, President Obama has succeeded in his audacious plan to remake America into a full fledged godless communist empire barely one year into his term..."
I'm sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with some of these statements. We are far from being communist. I have personal experience of communism through my fathers family. My garandfather was tortured and executed by the KGB. An uncle was beaten by KGB agents on the steps of a church he was trying to enter. We do not have to request in writing to buy a pair of shoes for our children. We can still travel from one town to another and one state to another without the fear of roadblocks and having the proper paperwork to do so. We can own homes. We can own cars. We can still go to the grocery for food. We can still own firearms and speak our minds. If we were communist the author of this article would be DEAD for saying these things.I can go on and on but I think you get the idea. No, we're not communist yet. Not by a long shot. "...who are currently expanding their wars against the Muslim Nations to steal their vast oil and gas wealth..." Yea? So why am I not reaping the benefits? Why am I paying $3.00 per gallon.
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Self Defense: A basic human rightThe 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917. A man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile...can respond with a great deal of pride and satisfaction, "I served in the U. S. Navy." John F. Kennedy VFW Life Member Last edited by petesusn; 03-27-2010 at 05:40 PM.. |
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[No, we're not communist yet. Not by a long shot.
Pete, ask yourself this; Are we closer to communist now than ever before? Then ask; how you feel about the answer?
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All I can do is apologize to my son.
![]() 20 years ago, I did not see this coming. ![]() How do we look at our children and try to explain?
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When obama was campaigning did you not hear what he said? He is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. We failed our children. It started long ago. It began softly when prayer was taken out of school. When being a faggot became ok. When criminals were given a slap on the wrist. Look around you. California is going to have elections this year to legalize pot. Putin is rewritting the history books to praise stalin. Nobody is stopping him. No boundries and no justice for people. WE threw our heritage away. We are a divided country you just dont know it yet. It is too far gone and what it would take to fix it is not PC. God will fix this in his time. The mass will learn a horrible lesson. Ask the dead that Stalin, Mao, Hitler sent to the grave, just to name a few.
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Know one thing the socialist want everybody poor. The middle class is a necessary evil. It is on the back of the middle class that they live. They have no regard to send you to your death. It's less they have to feed. You all better start learning as much as you can about this, its coming.
Stalin sent soilders to war with nothing. His idea was i have more people than you have bullets.
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Many years back, I was discussing FDR & the depression with my father who was a teenager in early 30s. When I would bring up all the terrible things FDR did to our country, My dad told me I didn't know the entire picture; how bad it really was back then. He then said even though what FDR did was wrong, it saved the country from communism. He wasn't kidding either I do believe. My father was a lifelong Reagen Democrat who supported George Wallace in the 60s; no left wing liberal.
He would always say that the dems & repub each get their 4-8 years, the pendulum swings back and forth; but nothing ever really changes in America. There is quite some truth to that too. I remember when the Slickster was in power, 1990s. I was just as upset with his policies as I am now with our current guy in D.C. When it all played out, nothing really changed that much. AWB sun, shined, economy went up and down, and after 8 years, he was history. I like to think it will be the same this time too. My better judgment tells me the repubs will come screaming back to power and reverse much of the current policy. I really still have faith in my country. I have more guns & ammo than I'll ever need, heck my grandkids will still be shooting the 223 skyward long after I've left this earth. What's funny is that when the Repubs are in power, I buy maybe a gun or two a year, spend all my money on nice guitars & boutique amps and such. I know I spent 25 gran on equipment & geetars over Bush's 8 years; playin gives me so much pleasure. Soon as Dems come back to power, I stop spending money on guitars & such; and ramp back up the gun & ammo purchases. I guess deep inside I believe them dang Dems will try to restrict gun sales someday, somehow; why I start buyin again. So if there is any good to come out of the last election; it is that I'm buying around 10 guns again every year, ha. I won't go off the deep end until he restricts gun sales, and I won't be the only prepared American if that day ever arrives. So remember, the pendulum will start swinging back the other direction come November. He is only going to get away with so much before it all causes his political downfall. Have faith in your country, this ain't the first time it was bad times in America. |
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One good thing about the Commies is they are always knocking each other off. When are you folks putting the Hilldog in the pound and giving her the gas???
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Yes, we keep swinging back & forth between Democrats and Republicans, but the economic situation just keeps getting worse - http://thenationaldebtcrisis.com/national-debt-graph/ We climbed out of a similar hole after the Great Depression, but it helped that we were the only major power to come out of WW2 with our infrastructure and industrial base intact... it took 10 or 20 years for our competitors to rebuild and start catching up with us. We don't have that advantage this time around. I hope you're right, maybe it still has a chance to turn around.... if things continue on their present course, our grandkids will be living in a Third World country. Last edited by ofitg; 03-28-2010 at 01:46 AM.. |
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The author of the article says we are communist. I still say we are not for the reasons I gave in my reply to that article. Granted we may be closer but we are still not. Until the government tells me to turn in my guns or to turn in my car or tells me I can't go to the next town without their permission I am still a free man. When I am told to read only what the government tells me to read or when I am imprisoned for speaking out against said government or when I cannot go to church and worship God then and only then will I not be free.
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Self Defense: A basic human rightThe 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917. A man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile...can respond with a great deal of pride and satisfaction, "I served in the U. S. Navy." John F. Kennedy VFW Life Member Last edited by petesusn; 03-28-2010 at 03:11 AM.. |
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You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Choose wisely, grasshopper.
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The government is telling you that God has no place in education or government. That people who choose not to work are entitled to the same things you have to pay for and more. That our constitution, our rule book for over 200 years no longer is relevant. That politicians, who do no actual work and have no saleable skills deserve better retirement benefits and health care than you and I. That being the conscience of the world is more productive than addressing the needs of our people. It may not be communism yet, but it still sucks!
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I could not and would not put up with communism for 1 day
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The world mourns because very soon, we won't have the capacity to help ANYONE! Not even our own.
![]() When we're broke, where will the UN get all their money from?
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This election in November is a critical election( I know, everyone knows that) but we also need to prosletyize a little when it comes to friends and family, and whoever will stand still long enough to listen. If everyone on this board who gives a rip was able to influence 2 other people-that you wouldn't normally talk to about it- it would be a big deal, especially if those 2 people influenced 1 or 2 others.
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