Fixed sights or adjustable - The Firearms Forum

Shellback · 07-28-2008, 06:26 PM

What do you guys think about adjustable sights on a auto loader? I just bought adjustable sights for my Sig Sauer P229 and am contiplating weather to put them on or not.
Thanks
Tim

Marlin · 07-28-2008, 06:45 PM

I prefer adjustable sights on all my guns.

CampingJosh · 07-28-2008, 07:03 PM

I hate to disagree with Marlin, but I prefer fixed. Wish I could tell you why... I just do.

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 07-28-2008, 07:08 PM

3 out of 5 of my guns have adjustable sights, but I usually never adjust 'em. On one of the three I have a scope.

JLA · 07-28-2008, 07:34 PM

unless the gun is intended for hunting or target shooting, they should always be fitted with fixed sights, especially where carry guns are concerned.

Shellback · 07-28-2008, 07:58 PM

I use it primarily for target and home protection, seems they'd get in the way for a carry weapon.

artabr · 07-28-2008, 09:26 PM

I like adjustable. I reload and I'll jump between softball and hot loads and I like to have my gun shoot to point of aim. I carry 1911's and they both have adjustable sights, one with a fiber optic front sight and Bo-mar rear. The other is Bo-mar rear with tritium inserts front and rear.

Art

LDBennett · 07-29-2008, 07:40 AM

If the gun doesn't shoot to point of aim with any ammo you happen to be using then not having adjustable sights makes the gun useless to me. You might as well just point it and not aim because you have just about as much of a chance of hitting something.

Any gun that is used or intended to be used at ranges farther than 7 yds needs adjustable sights. Load levels vary from ammo to ammo and required point of aim can vary from range to range. Most good guns have solid rugged adjustable sights or the fixed sights can be replaced with such good durable sights.

For carry you probably don't need adjustable sights but if you are shooting a bad guy at ranges beyond 7 yds then you might end up in jail as ranges much farther might not be judged by a jury to be a high enough threat to use lethal force whether it was or not. Beside when forced to defend yourself you may not even remember to use the sights....you'll just pull the trigger in fear.

That's my opinion and your's may differ.

LDBennett

TranterUK · 07-29-2008, 07:49 AM

My 2c.

Fixed for defence, adjustable for the range or hunting.

If I had a defensive handgun that wont shoot point of aim at 20 yds, I would trade it for one that will.

artabr · 07-29-2008, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDBennett

If the gun doesn't shoot to point of aim with any ammo you happen to be using then not having adjustable sights makes the gun useless to me. You might as well just point it and not aim because you have just about as much of a chance of hitting something.

Any gun that is used or intended to be used at ranges farther than 7 yds needs adjustable sights. Load levels vary from ammo to ammo and required point of aim can vary from range to range. Most good guns have solid rugged adjustable sights or the fixed sights can be replaced with such good durable sights.

For carry you probably don't need adjustable sights but if you are shooting a bad guy at ranges beyond 7 yds then you might end up in jail as ranges much farther might not be judged by a jury to be a high enough threat to use lethal force whether it was or not. Beside when forced to defend yourself you may not even remember to use the sights....you'll just pull the trigger in fear.

That's my opinion and your's may differ.

LDBennett

LD, you're right on target, pun intended, Every situation is different. I still rather my adjs.

Art

Shellback · 07-29-2008, 12:13 PM

LD well said, sig is a straight shooter and I love the weapon I shoot alittle differantly so the adjustables went on this morning this evening I will dial them into my eye. The fixed sights where great and very reliable just seemed to cover to much of the target area for me. I'm sure it's the way I shoot, but I am a decent shot and repitition is the key for me.. LD I have been reading a lot of your posts and the rest of you as well. Very good info round here. Thanks
Tim

JLA · 07-29-2008, 08:40 PM

my carry piece wears straight 8s, they are fixed white dot sights and with a 6 o' clock hold i can hit spent shotgun hulls at 30 ft.

Shellback · 07-30-2008, 04:19 AM

JLA what is straight 8's??

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 07-30-2008, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLA

my carry piece wears straight 8s, they are fixed white dot sights and with a 6 o' clock hold i can hit spent shotgun hulls at 30 ft.

"In English, Data."

Seriously, not everyone here understands what you just stated.

Vladimir · 07-30-2008, 08:14 PM

Carry. Fixed.
Range/Fun. Adjustable.

artabr · 07-30-2008, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shellback

JLA what is straight 8's??

http://www.heinie.com/slanteight.htm

Art

DWARREN123 · 07-31-2008, 03:21 AM

Adjustable for firing different bullet weights, fixed for good single load or bullets of same weight.
Fixed is usually smaller and less problems.

Tom Militano · 07-31-2008, 01:43 PM

I like adjustable on all my guns.

JLA · 07-31-2008, 09:22 PM

heinie straight eights are a white dot sight with one dot on top of the other instead of three side by side, and a six o' clock hold is setting the target just on top of your sight (aiming at the bottom). standard self defense training technique with the idea that its easier and faster to aquire a target and stay on target for faster follow up shots....

07-28-2008, 06:26 PM	#1
Shellback Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Broken Arrow Ok Posts: 950	Fixed sights or adjustable What do you guys think about adjustable sights on a auto loader? I just bought adjustable sights for my Sig Sauer P229 and am contiplating weather to put them on or not. Thanks Tim -->

07-28-2008, 06:45 PM	#2
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable I prefer adjustable sights on all my guns. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

07-28-2008, 07:03 PM	#3
CampingJosh TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 4,799	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable I hate to disagree with Marlin, but I prefer fixed. Wish I could tell you why... I just do. __________________ Nothing posted on TheFirearmsForum.com constitutes legal, accounting, gunsmithing, or other professional advice. Readers are encouraged to consult with qualified professionals for real advice. Your life is lived at your own risk. Don't blame me for the dumb things you do.

07-28-2008, 07:08 PM	#4
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,833	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable 3 out of 5 of my guns have adjustable sights, but I usually never adjust 'em. On one of the three I have a scope. __________________ Long Gun Collection: M38 Mosin-Nagant Carbine Russian 1950 SKS Winchester 1300 20Ga Western Field Single-Shot 16Ga Sears Ranger .22S-L-LR Bolt-Action Rifle Marlin 795 Semi-Auto (Brother's) Handgun Collection: Springfield Armory XD9 Service

07-28-2008, 07:34 PM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,412	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable unless the gun is intended for hunting or target shooting, they should always be fitted with fixed sights, especially where carry guns are concerned. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

07-28-2008, 07:58 PM	#6
Shellback Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Broken Arrow Ok Posts: 950	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable I use it primarily for target and home protection, seems they'd get in the way for a carry weapon.

07-28-2008, 09:26 PM	#7
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable I like adjustable. I reload and I'll jump between softball and hot loads and I like to have my gun shoot to point of aim. I carry 1911's and they both have adjustable sights, one with a fiber optic front sight and Bo-mar rear. The other is Bo-mar rear with tritium inserts front and rear. Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!!

07-29-2008, 07:40 AM	#8
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,754	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable If the gun doesn't shoot to point of aim with any ammo you happen to be using then not having adjustable sights makes the gun useless to me. You might as well just point it and not aim because you have just about as much of a chance of hitting something. Any gun that is used or intended to be used at ranges farther than 7 yds needs adjustable sights. Load levels vary from ammo to ammo and required point of aim can vary from range to range. Most good guns have solid rugged adjustable sights or the fixed sights can be replaced with such good durable sights. For carry you probably don't need adjustable sights but if you are shooting a bad guy at ranges beyond 7 yds then you might end up in jail as ranges much farther might not be judged by a jury to be a high enough threat to use lethal force whether it was or not. Beside when forced to defend yourself you may not even remember to use the sights....you'll just pull the trigger in fear. That's my opinion and your's may differ. LDBennett

07-29-2008, 07:49 AM	#9
TranterUK Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 5,103	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable My 2c. Fixed for defence, adjustable for the range or hunting. If I had a defensive handgun that wont shoot point of aim at 20 yds, I would trade it for one that will. __________________ DVC - Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas - Accuracy, Power, Speed. The light at the end of the recession tunnel IS a train coming the other way!

07-29-2008, 12:13 PM	#11
Shellback Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Broken Arrow Ok Posts: 950	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable LD well said, sig is a straight shooter and I love the weapon I shoot alittle differantly so the adjustables went on this morning this evening I will dial them into my eye. The fixed sights where great and very reliable just seemed to cover to much of the target area for me. I'm sure it's the way I shoot, but I am a decent shot and repitition is the key for me.. LD I have been reading a lot of your posts and the rest of you as well. Very good info round here. Thanks Tim Last edited by Shellback; 07-29-2008 at 12:19 PM..

07-29-2008, 08:40 PM	#12
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,412	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable my carry piece wears straight 8s, they are fixed white dot sights and with a 6 o' clock hold i can hit spent shotgun hulls at 30 ft. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

07-30-2008, 04:19 AM	#13
Shellback Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Broken Arrow Ok Posts: 950	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable JLA what is straight 8's??

07-30-2008, 08:14 PM	#15
Vladimir Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Issaquah WA Posts: 3,558	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable Carry. Fixed. Range/Fun. Adjustable. __________________ -JVRR меня зовут Владимир или Джеймс. Я знаю только немного русский язык (я американец, но мой пра дедушка русски). STEAM (CSS, TF2, etc): Ask me! Xbox LIVE! GT: "Vlad is Rad" PS3 PSN: "Vlad_Is_Rad"

07-31-2008, 03:21 AM	#17
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 764	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable Adjustable for firing different bullet weights, fixed for good single load or bullets of same weight. Fixed is usually smaller and less problems. __________________ Have a nice day!

07-31-2008, 01:43 PM	#18
Tom Militano Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 1,255	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable I like adjustable on all my guns.

07-31-2008, 09:22 PM	#19
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,412	Re: Fixed sights or adjustable heinie straight eights are a white dot sight with one dot on top of the other instead of three side by side, and a six o' clock hold is setting the target just on top of your sight (aiming at the bottom). standard self defense training technique with the idea that its easier and faster to aquire a target and stay on target for faster follow up shots.... __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!