Old pirate pistol - The Firearms Forum

michaelv · 01-10-2011, 11:42 AM

Would anyone know the make and value of a "pirate" type pistol?

Thank you for any info

RJay · 01-10-2011, 01:39 PM

It is not a pirate pistol, good grief, Jonnie Depp. It is a small percussion self defence pistol, that may be a " turn barrel " , the barrel removes for loading. It is in such bad shape I would guess a 100 dollars may be too high. I would guess it dates from the 1820 to 1860's, Just a WAG

Jim K · 01-10-2011, 06:38 PM

I agree. It is a small American pocket pistol of around 1830. I don't think the barrel removes, but if it did, it is almost certainly too rusted to do so now. It might bring a few dollars (under $100) just because of its age, but no more.

Jim

Jim Hauff · 01-11-2011, 10:53 AM

These were often called "Muff" guns - women would carry them concealed in their muffs - the furry things they would insert their hands in to stay warm.

RJay · 01-11-2011, 04:37 PM

Jim H., I could play word games with your posting , but, I think I will let it be.

BullShoot · 01-11-2011, 09:03 PM

I successfully resisted the temptation myself.

BullShoot

22shot · 01-11-2011, 09:53 PM

michealv

Nice pics.

Tryung to "match up" your little gun with what I have availible; I was suprised to find out how many maufacturers could match.

Manhattan F.A. Mfg. Co. 1850's .36
Bacon & Co. 1852-1858 .34
Stocking & Co. 1849-1852 .36
Etc.

They all produced almost idential pistols to yours. (longer barrels being the big difference.)

Your gun is a bit "fosilized", but I think dates to the 1850's.

AS to value; ? to $100; only if you find the "right" buyer.

Jim Hauff · 01-12-2011, 12:26 PM

RJay and Bullshoot,
You should have seen the original post - this one was highly modified.

michaelv · 01-12-2011, 01:53 PM

Thanks everyone.

BullShoot · 01-13-2011, 01:24 AM

''You should have seen the original post - this one was highly modified.''

And probably a very good thing it was, too.

It gave me a good chuckle.

tim.sr · 01-13-2011, 05:20 AM

"Muff" guns "Muff" guns "Muff" guns me like.

AL MOUNT · 01-13-2011, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Hauff

These were often called "Muff" guns - women would carry them concealed in their muffs -
the furry things they would insert their hands in to stay warm.

If ya ponder that a minute......

That's not too great of a clarification......

gendoikari87 · 01-13-2011, 09:12 AM

ah the changing definitions of worlds. anybody care to guess what a bundle of sticks was called back then?

Jim Hauff · 01-13-2011, 12:14 PM

FAG???? (From Latin: faces - a bundle of sticks.)

kx1a · 01-13-2011, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gendoikari87

ah the changing definitions of worlds. anybody care to guess what a bundle of sticks was called back then?

Or for that matter cigarettes in Britain
Bill

01-10-2011, 11:42 AM	#1
michaelv Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 13	Old pirate pistol Would anyone know the make and value of a "pirate" type pistol? Thank you for any info Attached Images -->

01-10-2011, 01:39 PM	#2
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,486	Re: Old pirate pistol It is not a pirate pistol, good grief, Jonnie Depp. It is a small percussion self defence pistol, that may be a " turn barrel " , the barrel removes for loading. It is in such bad shape I would guess a 100 dollars may be too high. I would guess it dates from the 1820 to 1860's, Just a WAG __________________ RonJames

01-10-2011, 06:38 PM	#3
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Old pirate pistol I agree. It is a small American pocket pistol of around 1830. I don't think the barrel removes, but if it did, it is almost certainly too rusted to do so now. It might bring a few dollars (under $100) just because of its age, but no more. Jim

01-11-2011, 10:53 AM	#4
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: Old pirate pistol These were often called "Muff" guns - women would carry them concealed in their muffs - the furry things they would insert their hands in to stay warm. __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie

01-11-2011, 04:37 PM	#5
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,486	Re: Old pirate pistol Jim H., I could play word games with your posting , but, I think I will let it be. __________________ RonJames

01-11-2011, 09:03 PM	#6
BullShoot V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: missouri ozarks Contributor Posts: 445	Re: Old pirate pistol I successfully resisted the temptation myself. BullShoot

01-11-2011, 09:53 PM	#7
22shot V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 376	Re: Old pirate pistol michealv Nice pics. Tryung to "match up" your little gun with what I have availible; I was suprised to find out how many maufacturers could match. Manhattan F.A. Mfg. Co. 1850's .36 Bacon & Co. 1852-1858 .34 Stocking & Co. 1849-1852 .36 Etc. They all produced almost idential pistols to yours. (longer barrels being the big difference.) Your gun is a bit "fosilized", but I think dates to the 1850's. AS to value; ? to $100; only if you find the "right" buyer.

01-12-2011, 12:26 PM	#8
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: Old pirate pistol RJay and Bullshoot, You should have seen the original post - this one was highly modified. __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie

01-12-2011, 01:53 PM	#9
michaelv Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 13	Re: Old pirate pistol Thanks everyone.

01-13-2011, 01:24 AM	#10
BullShoot V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: missouri ozarks Contributor Posts: 445	Re: Old pirate pistol ''You should have seen the original post - this one was highly modified.'' And probably a very good thing it was, too. It gave me a good chuckle.

01-13-2011, 05:20 AM	#11
tim.sr V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: MI. Posts: 290	Re: Old pirate pistol "Muff" guns "Muff" guns "Muff" guns me like. __________________ Tim.Sr U.S.ARMY VET.

01-13-2011, 09:12 AM	#13
gendoikari87 Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 361	Re: Old pirate pistol ah the changing definitions of worlds. anybody care to guess what a bundle of sticks was called back then?

01-13-2011, 12:14 PM	#14
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: Old pirate pistol FAG???? (From Latin: faces - a bundle of sticks.) __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie