bullet hammer question? - The Firearms Forum

ryan42 · 03-06-2012, 07:44 PM

I bought a bullet hammer today and took 75 bullets apart to redo them and my question is should I resize them again.By the way who ever invented this thing was a genious.

norahc · 03-06-2012, 07:46 PM

You shouldn't have to resize them if they weren't fired. It is the firing that causes the case to expand to the chamber size. Then again, you may have to resize them to get the bullets to seat properly.

Agreed to the second part of your post about the inventor.

American Leader · 03-06-2012, 07:52 PM

I never have, as nora above stated, expansion comes from firing. However, new brass must be sized as well.

gdmoody · 03-06-2012, 07:53 PM

If you do decide to resize them, be sure you do it in such a way that it doesn't pop the primer out! Remove the de-primer rod/pin.

ryan42 · 03-06-2012, 07:57 PM

They have not been fired I put the wrong charge in and want redo them.I was thinking alls I would have to do is reflare them to start the bullet before I seat the bullet again?

norahc · 03-06-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan42

They have not been fired I put the wrong charge in and want redo them.I was thinking alls I would have to do is reflare them to start the bullet before I seat the bullet again?

Yep.

ryan42 · 03-06-2012, 08:00 PM

Just thought I would check with you all before I started loading them again thanks guys

76Highboy · 03-06-2012, 08:10 PM

Your just having too much fun there Ryan.

ryan42 · 03-06-2012, 08:20 PM

yes I am I love learning new things

The_Rifleman · 03-06-2012, 08:21 PM

I always re-size the necks on bottle-necked cases after I pull the bullets; just in case the neck tension is reduced.

Sounds like you are talking about pistol rounds, which I've left as was the few times I had pulled bullets.

ryan42 · 03-06-2012, 08:26 PM

yeah 45 acp's rifleman

The_Rifleman · 03-06-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan42

yeah 45 acp's rifleman

I was always able to feel if the neck tension was weak, I'd make note of the difference of resistance with a freshly re-sized case as opposed to the pulled bullet case.

Even if the neck tension is reduced, it'll probably not make much difference in accuracy at short range; and if you're crimping, the bullets should stay put.

gdmoody · 03-06-2012, 10:53 PM

Ryan, you should be able to get by with just flaring and seating. I have done that several times. I once had to do that with close to 500 .40 S&W, I almost beat myself to death with that "hammer".

LDBennett · 03-07-2012, 06:41 AM

The plastic hammer for inertia bullet removal is indeed a nice item but here are a couple of tips:

Use it on a hard surface or the inertia will not remove the bullet.

Don't clean it with any spray cleaners, especially those that use a propellant that comes out freezer cold. Years ago I did that and the instant the cold propellant hit the plastic it turned into a million small cracks. The plastic must be pre-tensioned somehow and under stress to allow it to absorb the hammer blows. The cold propellant over stressed it and made it useless.

LDBennett

ryan42 · 03-07-2012, 04:10 PM

Thanks for the tips I just removed 75 bullets and that was enough for me.I couldnt imagine doing 500.The good thing is you can reuse everything ,nothing gets damaged in the process.When I clean it ill probably just use a dry rag to wipe it out.

BlackEagle · 03-07-2012, 04:53 PM

I've never cleaned mine. Just knock out as much of the powder as possible. I suppose a dry paper towel or rag would do the trick.

JLA · 03-07-2012, 07:11 PM

I actually knocked a hole inthe floor of my reloading room beneath the carpet with my kinetic hammer. i was dismantling some steel core penetrator .308s to salvage the bullets. Didnt even realize I did it til the wife hollered at me the next day. She stepped in it.

ryan42 · 03-07-2012, 08:18 PM

thats alot of hammering JLA

norahc · 03-07-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

I actually knocked a hole inthe floor of my reloading room beneath the carpet with my kinetic hammer. i was dismantling some steel core penetrator .308s to salvage the bullets. Didnt even realize I did it til the wife hollered at me the next day. She stepped in it.

Good thing she didn't take your bullet hammer and make one in your head.

I found a large, flat rock that I set on my reloading bench just for this purpose. It is about 6"x4"x8".

BlackEagle · 03-08-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by norahc

Good thing she didn't take your bullet hammer and make one in your head.

I found a large, flat rock that I set on my reloading bench just for this purpose. It is about 6"x4"x8".

I have a half brick on the floor under my reloading bench that works fine.

JLA, that must be some strong kinetic puller you have; surprised it didn't break first.

gdmoody · 03-08-2012, 11:46 AM

I have several pieces of granite right outside my reloading building that I smack the puller on! I did use the corner of one of my reloading tables, but the hing will bust up plywood!

howlnmad · 03-08-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

I actually knocked a hole inthe floor of my reloading room beneath the carpet with my kinetic hammer. i was dismantling some steel core penetrator .308s to salvage the bullets. Didnt even realize I did it til the wife hollered at me the next day. She stepped in it.

It's not a sledge hammer you know.

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The_Rifleman · 03-08-2012, 06:53 PM

I use a piece of an 8x8 oak barn beam; set on concrete, I go with the grain.

JLA · 03-09-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackEagle

I have a half brick on the floor under my reloading bench that works fine.

JLA, that must be some strong kinetic puller you have; surprised it didn't break first.

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Originally Posted by norahc

Good thing she didn't take your bullet hammer and make one in your head.

I found a large, flat rock that I set on my reloading bench just for this purpose. It is about 6"x4"x8".

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Originally Posted by ryan42

thats alot of hammering JLA

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Originally Posted by howlnmad

It's not a sledge hammer you know.

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Yeah I know I know.

Just for the record, the wife did want to whack me on the head with it..

I now have a block of wood I use to whack it against, instead of the floor..

They are made of polycarbonate, I used to make PC resin back when i worked in thermal plastics and that stuff is next to indestructable. It is highly impact resistent, and the perfect material for a kinetic hammer IMO..

And if youve ever disassembled Czech milsurp, a sledge hammer sized kinetic hammer is almost necessary.

carver · 03-09-2012, 04:45 PM

I have a piece of fire wood standing beside my table that I use.

03-06-2012, 07:44 PM	#1
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,589	bullet hammer question? I bought a bullet hammer today and took 75 bullets apart to redo them and my question is should I resize them again.By the way who ever invented this thing was a genious. -->

03-06-2012, 07:52 PM	#3
American Leader Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,630	Re: bullet hammer question? I never have, as nora above stated, expansion comes from firing. However, new brass must be sized as well.

03-06-2012, 07:53 PM	#4
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,407	Re: bullet hammer question? If you do decide to resize them, be sure you do it in such a way that it doesn't pop the primer out! Remove the de-primer rod/pin. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

03-06-2012, 07:57 PM	#5
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,589	Re: bullet hammer question? They have not been fired I put the wrong charge in and want redo them.I was thinking alls I would have to do is reflare them to start the bullet before I seat the bullet again?

03-06-2012, 08:00 PM	#7
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,589	Re: bullet hammer question? Just thought I would check with you all before I started loading them again thanks guys

03-06-2012, 08:10 PM	#8
76Highboy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Meridian, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,094	Re: bullet hammer question? Your just having too much fun there Ryan.

03-06-2012, 08:20 PM	#9
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,589	Re: bullet hammer question? yes I am I love learning new things

03-06-2012, 08:21 PM	#10
The_Rifleman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 872	Re: bullet hammer question? I always re-size the necks on bottle-necked cases after I pull the bullets; just in case the neck tension is reduced. Sounds like you are talking about pistol rounds, which I've left as was the few times I had pulled bullets. __________________ Debate isn't "uncivil" behavior. Pointing out illogical reasoning is a legitimate counter argument. That is the problem with internet forum mods, they rarely understand what constitutes legitimate, honest and civil debate. They reward the trolls and annoy the people genuinely trying communicate. I don't really like this place anyway, have fun with your power trip. ...nuff said.

03-06-2012, 08:26 PM	#11
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,589	Re: bullet hammer question? yeah 45 acp's rifleman

03-06-2012, 10:53 PM	#13
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,407	Re: bullet hammer question? Ryan, you should be able to get by with just flaring and seating. I have done that several times. I once had to do that with close to 500 .40 S&W, I almost beat myself to death with that "hammer". __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

03-07-2012, 06:41 AM	#14
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,754	Re: bullet hammer question? The plastic hammer for inertia bullet removal is indeed a nice item but here are a couple of tips: Use it on a hard surface or the inertia will not remove the bullet. Don't clean it with any spray cleaners, especially those that use a propellant that comes out freezer cold. Years ago I did that and the instant the cold propellant hit the plastic it turned into a million small cracks. The plastic must be pre-tensioned somehow and under stress to allow it to absorb the hammer blows. The cold propellant over stressed it and made it useless. LDBennett

03-07-2012, 04:10 PM	#15
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,589	Re: bullet hammer question? Thanks for the tips I just removed 75 bullets and that was enough for me.I couldnt imagine doing 500.The good thing is you can reuse everything ,nothing gets damaged in the process.When I clean it ill probably just use a dry rag to wipe it out.

03-07-2012, 04:53 PM	#16
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,250	Re: bullet hammer question? I've never cleaned mine. Just knock out as much of the powder as possible. I suppose a dry paper towel or rag would do the trick.

03-07-2012, 07:11 PM	#17
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,407	Re: bullet hammer question? I actually knocked a hole inthe floor of my reloading room beneath the carpet with my kinetic hammer. i was dismantling some steel core penetrator .308s to salvage the bullets. Didnt even realize I did it til the wife hollered at me the next day. She stepped in it. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

03-07-2012, 08:18 PM	#18
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,589	Re: bullet hammer question? thats alot of hammering JLA

03-08-2012, 11:46 AM	#21
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,407	Re: bullet hammer question? I have several pieces of granite right outside my reloading building that I smack the puller on! I did use the corner of one of my reloading tables, but the hing will bust up plywood! __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

03-08-2012, 06:53 PM	#23
The_Rifleman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 872	Re: bullet hammer question? I use a piece of an 8x8 oak barn beam; set on concrete, I go with the grain. __________________ Debate isn't "uncivil" behavior. Pointing out illogical reasoning is a legitimate counter argument. That is the problem with internet forum mods, they rarely understand what constitutes legitimate, honest and civil debate. They reward the trolls and annoy the people genuinely trying communicate. I don't really like this place anyway, have fun with your power trip. ...nuff said.

03-09-2012, 04:45 PM	#25
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,552	Re: bullet hammer question? I have a piece of fire wood standing beside my table that I use. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.