To get a Glock or NOt to get a Glock

[Whitefang81]

ok want to hear all opnions on Glock pistols, esp. the glock 17, I want to hear all good and bad things about it please

[Crpdeth]

I'll list the good stuff, and let someone else handle the bad stuff.

[Crpdeth]

Okay, someone elses turn!

~Crp

[JohnnyRobotic]

Well i had a chance to run a few rounds through one this weekend, and i thought it was a comfortable gun, very fun to shoot but i didn't do any kind of accuracy testing or anything of that nature

[gpostal]

If your looking for accuracy and reliability go for it

If your looking for safety forget it {duck here comes glocknut}

They are great shooters ,but I would never carry one ,or load one around the house ,just don’t trust a gun with no safety ,and internal firing pin ,ya I know it’s a hybrid {cough,bullsheet,cough}

[Hydra Shok]

I have never shot a Glock before, because I can't get past the grip angle or the width of the grip. They just don't point "naturally" to me either. I don't care for the idea of no safety either, heck even my Millennium has a slide safety. But on the other hand, a whole lotta people love em. To me, if you like it and feel comfortable with it, get it. Who cares what I or anybody else thinks?

[antediluvianist]

Th Glock 17's standard trigger pull is 5.5 lbs.. That's only about half as much as a DA revolver's. All that crap they say about the Glock's being "as safe as a revolver because neither has a safety" is BS. A revolver lying on a table with a 5.5 lb. trigger pull wouldn't be safe either.

But, if it's just you in the house (you better be sure) , could work.

ignoring the obvious trigger/safety issue just pick one up and point it and then pick up a conventional semi auto and point it, night and day difference for me.

One is like a brick the other is like a fine knife or something that feels like an extention of your arm.

[45Smashemflat]

Get what fits your hand and falls into a natural point of aim. Try this, pick the gun up with eyes closed - point it down range and assume a firing position - eyes closed. Now open eyes, how far off of perfect sight alignment are you?

I'm a 1911 guy - but I don't knock glocks - I just can't shoot them well.

All safeties are between the ears, get what fits!!

[kmad61]

The Glock is a reliable,accurate first rate weapon.Check out the Springfield XD pistols they are excellent guns for the money,and very similar to the glocks.I have both and love them!!

[needleace]

-and have several different types from the 1911 to the Glock.
I just purchased a Glock 21 mainly because after taking a
tactical shooting class I've found that I should have been
shooting with a larger grip size. Having a large hand, the
21 is perfect. I also made a couple of modifications to it.
I added Dawson Precision fiberoptic sights and change the
trigger from standard to 3 lbs. I plan to shoot IDPA with it.
My preferences generally lean towards the 1911, but simplicity
the Glock is a no-brainer. Easy to take down, simple to use,
safe in construction, and an easy sight picture with any
type of sights. I have owned 3 and shot almost all of the
models except the new .45, and never had any problems
with any of them. Glock is never a bad choice in a handgun,
and you will be able to get most of what you put in it if
you decide to sell later on. Hope this helps, good luck in
your quest.

Check this out, and you decide...
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb.html

[JohnnyRobotic]

intersting stuff, guy that taught my firearms safety course had his left index finger removed from such an accident not sure what type of gun but i know it wasn't a glock because he said he has only shot them a few times, they re-attached it but it's tip only reaches to the middle of the middle finger . . .scary stuff

Sorry to hear that JR.

[gpostal]

wasn't a glock because he said he has only shot them a few times,

maybe that was why he stoped shooting them

[needleace]

-then you probably should find another hobby. I think ANY
firearm has the potential to create a KB, especially if you're
shooting reloads. Last month, I saw a S&W cylinder from a
.40 caliber revolver that had been split by a KB. Luckily the shooter was unharmed.
If the much regurgitated KB is a serious concern and you still want the Glock, then invest in a Barsto barrel and buy the weapon. You will still have the possibilty of a KB. Also, if anyone thinks that this is a phenomenom of Glocks only, then they are sadly naive.

[JohnnyRobotic]

Originally posted by needleace
-if anyone thinks that this is a phenomenom of Glocks only, then they are sadly naive.

Yeah pretty much every shot is a miniature bomb, if your THAT scared of a kB you could always get a BB gun

Point well taken needleace ...

I had a KB with a new, out of the box Walther TPH-22.
No serious injury except for the dissapointment. I had high expectaions for it.

However, the lack of shell support seems to be the inherit problem with the Glock.

[needleace]

- it may be the reason Glock only recommends factory loads
and voids their warranty if you fess up to shooting reloads.
Everybody shoots reloads that I know, and most are more
meticulous with the powder measure than any factory.
Before the 21 I had a 32 and the fireballs created by
both the S&B and the Speer lawman was at least a 1 1/2 feet.
w/ the .357 SIG. cal. Scared my buddy in the next range
stall, he thought I had a KB. Anyway, I always try to upgrade
the barrel w/ the Glock, but I don't discount it as a decent
firearm.

[antediluvianist]

Yes, Glocks were made to be light enough to carry around all day - it was, after all, a military sidearm first.

But as a home defense gun ,a Glock can be rather light.

I am used to full-size revolvers or full-size steel semi-autos for homedefense. They weigh about 35 - 38 ounces. A full-size Glock 17 is only 29 ounces, and other Glock models weigh less. The recoil is correspondingly higher. For a home defense gun, the weight is not, in my opinion, ideal.

[Woodman]

I don't like them, but the Fish and Game guys carry a 40S&W double stack and a local Deputy carries a compact .45 double stack...

[boomstik44]

Let me start by saying that glocks just aren't for everybody. Some people will find them very comfortable to shoot with, others will hate the grip angle, the blocky trigger guard, the way it looks, etc. It's not a pretty gun, but if nothing else, it is ready to fire under most conditions, even where many others will not. And if loaded and cocked, the glock is ALWAYS ready to fire. They tend to be very accurate, but some are not so easy on recoil, especially the .40 caliber models. I'd say the 9mm or .45 models are the best. Yes, there are horror stories about "kabooms" and what not. I've also heard those with Sig. Usually the real causes of such problems are not easy to trace and tend to be hearsay. With any gun, safety is paramount. But with glock, I have to say that you really better be on your game at all times (as you should be with any gun) because glock leaves you NO ROOM for mistakes. There is no external, manual safety and that trigger "safety" is in my opinion not really a safety. You just about can't touch the trigger without touching the trigger safety, thereby engaging the safety and rendering it useless. Anything that can get inside the trigger guard, whether it be your finger or something else, can and will pull the trigger in the right circumstances. And unlike so many other double actions, the glock's is not hard to pull. so know what you're doing. As for uses, the glock is a straight-up tool. It will do what you ask it to, just not look or feel the way you want it to. There have been questions about non-fully supported chambers,etc. I believe there is some validity here, but I've seen very, very few situations where a glock did not perform as it should. No gun is perfect, but then again, no ammo or gun operator is either . Take it for what it's worth. If you get to the glock and realize that maybe this isn't quite what you're looking for, I suggest you take a look at the Springfield XD or the Sigpro series. Both are excellent polymer framed pistols that can do anything a glock can.

[glockgemini]

I've got friends with Berrettas and HKs and they won't take them to the range anymore because they had to clean them once. My Berretta 92 is loaded with parts and looks like a pain to clean. My Glock 19 takes 5 minutes to breakdown, clean and reassemble. My 1911 takes about 15 minutes.

If learning to shoot well is a goal then the Glock will get you there with less hassle than anything else. Plus, a Glock will last longer without cleaning than most, except for the 1911.

[tuckerd1]

Welcome to TFF Glockgemini!

[rglbegl]

Shoot one. If it works for you, get it. I always say shoot what feels good to you. Personally, I am one of those people who can't get them to work right. I love the grip angle, reliability is great, and they are easy to mantian, but that trigger makes it too hard for me to hit. Springfield XD-series on the other hand - I love'em. But they are still plastic - oops sorry - polymer composite.
I wont say anything bad about Glocks, they just aren't for me.
If you want a 9mm - get a Hi-Power
If you want a .45 - Kimber 1911